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#76 Syre

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:45 PM

http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=9274

thats pure inferno dps. The ubber dashes are to get / keep up with them, or GET THE-_- OUTA THERE. Yes its more pve oriented. However with the 2 dashes you can easly pop out pop the heal, and HOT so you keep getting healed, getting the wave of healing is a good idea but, the hot is a AOE hot... so it will help keep others up. More need to concentrate on yourself... the templar types can handle the heals.

As for pvp, most would ditch the instant healing spell I linked for the rage of bugs, that way an entire server can just sit in your aoe, and you rack up dmg points!
My main idea is I love the idea of the inferno, as for that being your fighting style + pop-in out to heal... http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=9274 is probably your best bet for survival, since you can dash like 53 meters and pop some heals if things get bad.

Once again this is preference of play style, I would probably switch instant healing for rage of bugs, and spec down for 8 into invis arrow, and 10 into rage of buggs and ditch my 2 heals, that would mean you can slap a whole server with aoe, then if they come at you, stun, dash, transform, dash again... and your safe... if they get close, you have mele capabilities, you can sit back and rack of points but your not going to get raped (as bad) if someone sneaks up on you... unless a zerker pops everything and well.......... into the ground you go baby!

As for doom guard, honestly.... your invulnerable to stuns, but it really does not give much more survivability than infurno besides that fact. The phys def difference... well you can max the evation buff.. which I could see helping allot. The hp buff ect and heal.... well templar classes, and warlord hp buff is alrdy wayy better.... and really, ok your imune to stun..... so they break you down in time... well as inferno... 53m dash... and in http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=9274 you got urself 2 heals.

If you want max pvp dps..... your basically thinking of elementalist wannabe! Get all the aoe poison, the multi arrow, rage of buggs... and 1 dash. Sit back throwing aoe DOTS, and shots, but I have no clue of well that would work... and honestly... would be boring... if your guna do that go be a ranger or a damn elementalist...


ALSO yea....... I have tryed over 20 pics within size, and memory size limit and its always blank.... I think ima give up on a forum pic!



Healers have their hands full sometimes and will not be there to aid you. Tempest dont often stop to help heal you or look after you everytime you are around. The points in doomguard were for tanking as in bosses. Rh/biskra and the likes.

All three heals are to be taken because the first two are wave of healing fillers. Leaf heal is a pathetic heal that you use last second to stall a dot or just to aid in healing. Druid will tick about 40 or below on this heal and it last 10 seconds with long cd. Instant heal is weak. Wave of healing can heal you and a target or it can heal you for double if you simply target yourself. Easily your best heal.

If you want dot build thorny has one around here somewhere and if you ask her nicely I am more than sure she'll share it with you. As I said before Bugs is for the debuffing and destealthing not necessarily the dmg. You will be better to leave it at 5 and put points elsewhere as at 5 you have max range.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say in last para, but dot druid is good for nerfing parties in small scale battles such as foc. There is the aoe dot Acid throw, the atk spd debuff wastewater, the aoe slow skill throw vine. The druid may not stack up kills but it aids the party a lot.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:50 PM

eh not saying its the best play style, saying it depends on play style, it's dif idea's, once again, xray's newb how to play druid manual, is def ur best bet. Seeing certain builds being posted, soo, i'm basically giving info, in all honestly... I'd just beg xray to link 3 druid builds he most thinks are your best bet... pvp, pve, and just overall or others like thorny that appear to know more of what there doing. Just post-in basic thoughts, I read something while back about rage of bugs being really nice in a server battle, so put it up, if its slandered then I know that teh person was a idiot, lol. Posted a inferno pve build I wouldn't mind trying, once again druid is more of a support class, so dono how decent it would be to focus on inferno, would they hold up against a sin in pvp, or be able to escape? I am still workin my way up. If I was saying this is your best bet! Then my comment would be allot cleaner, I would havs specified why, I was allot more, "I think". I am druid for the transformations, and inferno looks SICK. So I tried to make a build that would give me a chance of lvling up as that, not with the caster skills, is it your best bet,HELL NO, however its an idea.

Remember I STARTED THIS TOPIC...... to ask questions I had, and give somewhere for others to ask, I never claimed to be a pro 79 druid master.
I will note in my posts now, that I made this topic, and I am giving personal thoughts, and all are free to call them dumb, give's me and others idea's, who says someone else don't have questions. Who says there isn't someone thinking of respecing, easer to think of ALL POSAIBLITIES, than have someone respec 5 times.


This topic is to give people idea's. One build thats AMAZING that is the best, through checking dps and ect ect, may be really good, but someone may have a dif play style and hate it, another build, not as good, but close to it, may be more fun, even if they loose once in a while. Who says there is one way to play a druid, one pvp build, one pve build, or one build overall. It's about play style. Who says someone couldn't pull off some random :p_devil: and kick someone ass with a weird build. Depends on how they like to play. This topic is also for those THINKING of starting a druid, to post idea's after reading others ideas, to see if its for them. It is not to scare off people who post looking for idea's those whom are just thinking of starting a druid.


She wasn't trying to call you an idiot and no one said there is one way to play druid. My build is different from XRay's and even more so from throny but we are all still successful. Also just because xray made a druid for nabs thread doesn't mean that everyone else's thoughts on druid is any lesser.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:05 PM

Syre ur 79 build is only a bit different ;x the things I would change there would definetly be more pts in Storm Slash and RW for more dmg. rest is pretty much the same from what I've seen.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:08 PM

She wasn't trying to call you an idiot and no one said there is one way to play druid. My build is different from XRay's and even more so from throny but we are all still successful. Also just because xray made a druid for nabs thread doesn't mean that everyone else's thoughts on druid is any lesser.

yep yep, like the idea's didn't kno about the heal's. As for thorny, eh, just the, [dono what do say, maybe when i'm more drunk]... yeah... if you said something to someone irl, and they said "omg, I don't know what to say, look, maybe when i'm more drunk"..... how would you respond. Yes, saying that for allot, that comment give's off a......

"LOL HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED FOOTBALL, wow, look maybe when I am more drunk we can talk"
Basically mocking the comment the person makes.
I am sorry if I over reacted, however this is a place for newbies to find out wtf they guna do with there skill tree. If they get responses like that....

Though I did not know about the fact the leaf heal is really useless. Thought that only good thing about the heal that heals you and another, is that it heals you and another, however it appears not. Was thinking of if I hot myself then run into a fight if it would help me allot, however, from ur response, I gather it would just waste time, lol. I just saying meh thoughts so I HOPEFULLY, wont spend ever dime I own on re-doing my skills...
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:11 PM

Anyone got a build that includes doom guard as your main life line. Or is it just not worth it. Is inferno the best bet. Are they even used much tanking endgame, or is it normally defender types.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:12 PM

it's not worht it to go pure doom. only things you need as doomguard are taunting cry 5 and gigantizing 5.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:15 PM

it's not worht it to go pure doom. only things you need as doomguard are taunting cry 5 and gigantizing 5.

chill, wasn't sure how good it was, the fact they can't be stunned urged me.



SOOOO I wana try this stuff out. But when I login, it apears if I talk in guild chat my game crashes... i'm confused.... TALK ON ! I need entertainment well I try to fix it lol!

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:16 PM

you can get stunned by bosses tho as in RuinHorn. you can't get stunned in pvp true, but ur movement is too slow to be effective at all.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:17 PM

Syre ur 79 build is only a bit different ;x the things I would change there would definetly be more pts in Storm Slash and RW for more dmg. rest is pretty much the same from what I've seen.


ye like I said it was old and outdated for me. :p_devil:
Also I forgot i opened this up http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=9923 So I'll comment on it. Not really sure where I found it.

This is good if all you ever plan on doing is grinding. The evasives are useless drop them max the aa buff for the dduration. for grind you would like physical crit in jewels meaning an aa build so the spam skills bleeding and double can be left at 1. For such a grind build you left out one of your most important buffs. Cry of will should be MAXED. With all your extra points you might aswell take the tank for and max hp + max taunt. Tanking is fun.

Here is how my build is now http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=10066

Edited by Syre, 20 August 2010 - 11:22 PM.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:40 PM

http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=10067

That gives the good heal, dashes, ditches the evasion, give two 3 second stuns, and decent inferno dps, does that look any better, I saw the idea of the 1 pt in some others and the single person poison. The question is, would you servive long eneough in most cases to make full use of that, then again it comes from how much yah run bg's. Soo I dono. Basically there isn't much difference. I realize if I am right, acc dose not effect mele that evasion becomes a bit useless unless its ranged and then you just dash up to there face. I guess the poison is more a matter of... who gets the jump, then again you do get 6 seconds of stun so, ur survivability is through the roof. Stun and dash. I like it, just dono if I would use the poison allot... i'd be the type to forget I have it when i'd actually need it.. sadly, O>O makes amazing use of all the stuff tho.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:15 AM

With your build you are still using only inferno as your means of killing. If your skills don't crit then you wil fail. and even if they do you still may fail because you've limited yourself to only attacking with inferno and if you cannot succeed then you have no choice but to run. I'm not going to tell you that you cannot kill with an auto attack build(at high levels). Uzaki is quite successful with his :P Dropping wastewater and the BM physical spma skills I use an make the points for Throw Vine which is a slow which could aid you in such a build.

You cannot forget a skill that is on your skill bar :p_devil: there is no certain order in killing things for druid and you dont throw wastewater at every class. Wastewater is for kicking ranger buff and lowering their dps on you(and party). It is for destealthing assassins for a minute and slowly draining the life of no heal characters ;) I use this skill to take on multiple assassins aswell. Just keep your distance and mind your stuns as one of them getting in close range means your death. the dot makes sure one does not restealth and scud(gg), while you run jump and dodge the two you will aim for the one without the dot to make sure he doesnt restealth :D kill him first.

You say you want to get your build right without buying a skill reset. Well I'll tell you that unless we are given free resets that is impossible unless you copy one of the higher level player builds and like it. Part of making your build is understanding your class and what your skill tree allows you to do and not do. In order to understand the class you have to play it and experience it.
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:39 AM

yeh, more like, with least amount of resets possible lol. Yes it does limit me to only attacking with inferno, yours is much more resilient. I like it... just ima inferno-_- lol... soooooooooooooo.......... what can I say. I hate how xenoa looks... love how inferno looks.... I'd rather hide xenoa as much as I can LOL Ur build makes allot of sense, more resilient as I said... but then I gotta see that damn transvestite thing more... it just ticks me off looking at it for hours LOL. I'll prob go with your build once I get to be more.... accepting of the xenoa race... sawz
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:48 AM

Well at level 65 you get your better looking armors. Although the best set is at level 35(lamenting Sound). I guess all I can say is you should have made the female character :p_devil:


http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki.org/wiki/File:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg

Its looks better with my hairstyle btw(one with purple helmet)

Im off for now so if you've anymore Q's maybe someone else can answer or I will whenever I am able.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:52 AM

Well at level 65 you get your better looking armors. Although the best set is at level 35(lamenting Sound). I guess all I can say is you should have made the female character :p_devil:


http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki.org/wiki/File:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg
http://requiem-wiki....:M_Xenoa_LS.jpg

Its looks better with my hairstyle btw(one with purple helmet)

Im off for now so if you've anymore Q's maybe someone else can answer or I will whenever I am able.

than you very much! >.<
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