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#26 Glonfel2

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Posted 06 July 2020 - 04:07 PM

Did you Know? the "i" in iRO means INTERNATIONAL, not Iguana.


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Posted 06 July 2020 - 04:49 PM

RLy! i tot it was ipanema


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Posted 06 July 2020 - 05:13 PM

Let's say you do you English only server. What does that population look like?300?200? It's really not that bad playing with people who don't speak English.
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Posted 06 July 2020 - 05:27 PM

To the original poster,

 

I assure you what you so far have said and think is something completely understandable, and I assure you as well a lot of people also possibly think the same as you do.

 

You however need to know and also understand that as we are an International Ragnarok Online server, it is a reality that many different ethnic groups also play on the same servers as those of a community that communicate with English as their first language. You should also be able to understand that as people from many ethnic groups, this means many have a different language that they natively speak with English as a second language, therefore it is completely understandable people would rather group up with other people who can understand and effectively communicate back in their native language, this is very much how 'Cliques' work, where people would usually communicate and get along better with people who share the same values as you, whether by culture or because they have similar morals as you.

 

I am sure by the way you have spoken so far, you must also come from an ethnic background that has a native spoken language with English being a second language, but have a very good mastery and fluency and the fact you rather find servers that have people "that only speak English" means you appreciate the English language and that is something commendable in and of itself.

 

Point being is that not everyone is the same as you and has great mastery of English as a second language, and this is understandable as well, as learning a different language takes much time and commitment, and many people only need a minimal amount of English to communicate, simply speaking enough for people to understand the main intention is enough, this is also what makes spoken English a very accessible language as compared to other languages, even when  written.

I am not saying that what you are asserting isn't understandable, as it definitely is, but peoples backgrounds and experiences are all different, just because English is very easy and accessible for you does not make it so for other people. Rather than to complain why not compromise and allow them to speak so long as they understand where they themselves see its appropriate to use their own native tongue and have not inconvenienced other players because of it, as you have stated when they asked you whether you are "BR", shows that these players at least understand that language barriers exist and simply wanted to clarify the boundaries to which they can interact.

 

Of course if you really want to get picky about the word International, If used as an adjective, it is "Involving more than one country", and therefore does not mean it has to involve every country. Link to the definition and its uses and synonyms as quoted here:   https://dictionary.c...h/international

 

Sorry for the long wall of text.


Edited by PervySageMarty, 06 July 2020 - 05:30 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2020 - 05:32 PM

To the original poster,
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I gotta admit that was pretty respectful and mature. Nice :)
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Posted 07 July 2020 - 01:27 PM

I gotta admit that was pretty respectful and mature. Nice :)

 

 

I think since nothing has occurred since our posts then it means either the Poster has thought things through for themselves or has maybe already read my wall of text and is practicing some compromising now as i type this reply.


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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:35 PM

I think since nothing has occurred since our posts then it means either the Poster has thought things through for themselves or has maybe already read my wall of text and is practicing some compromising now as i type this reply.

 

I wouldn't count on it, I think he needed attention, got some and has moved on to another topic.


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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:38 PM

I wouldn't count on it, I think he needed attention, got some and has moved on to another topic.

 

if that was the case i would it would be very disappointing to know that they haven't at least given some thought into how they would approach language barriers in future. Of course I also cant doubt that they may have taken the advise into practice. Let us just hope for the latter while they move to another topic.


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Posted 07 July 2020 - 04:50 PM

if that was the case i would it would be very disappointing to know that they haven't at least given some thought into how they would approach language barriers in future. Of course I also cant doubt that they may have taken the advise into practice. Let us just hope for the latter while they move to another topic.

 

I heard he's just a troll desperately looking for things to argue with people because he seeks attention.


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 06:42 AM

No I am not a troll and I have not replied as there is no arguing with you all. WP has long ago killed iRO. The servers no longer are associated with the iRO name and are thus named Renewal (Chaos) and Transcendence (Poring). Furthermore, regions that used to be able to play here have since been banned. If regions are not allowed to play then the game is not really an international game as certain regions are preventing from playing. You can find each servers supported region on Gravity's website. One of you mentioned that people outside of the US should just use a VPN to bypass WP's security to access the servers. This statement in itself is insanity as if Gravity and by extension WP, wanted players from all over the world to play here there wouldn't be an IP ban. Companies all around the world conform regional laws to have multiple nations connect to one server. Take Google for instance. Google changed it's Terms of Service to abide my EU regulations so that it could still service it's customers in EU. Why can't Gravity/WP do this? Regardless this wasn't even my point in making the post. I want to play with English speaking people, and I would like to play on an official server to do so. So again, is there an official English server I can play on? Canada, UK, Australia?

 

P.S. - Nice racism Brokoly123. You represent your country well.


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 06:50 AM

you’re the one being a narcissist man. marty put it pretty clearly on what defines international. A couple of countries is more than enough. If it takes the world then even google is not international you know? They can’t serve the biggest market in the world, China. So please, see the irony in your thinking and perhaps change your view a little.

 

By the way, you're speaking to everyone here in English lmfao. If this isn't an english server than what is? A pure english server doesnt exist even in the old euRO. Tons of spanish, french, german, whatever else you wanna consider.


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 07:56 AM

No I am not a troll and I have not replied as there is no arguing with you all. WP has long ago killed iRO. The servers no longer are associated with the iRO name and are thus named Renewal (Chaos) and Transcendence (Poring). Furthermore, regions that used to be able to play here have since been banned. If regions are not allowed to play then the game is not really an international game as certain regions are preventing from playing. You can find each servers supported region on Gravity's website. One of you mentioned that people outside of the US should just use a VPN to bypass WP's security to access the servers. This statement in itself is insanity as if Gravity and by extension WP, wanted players from all over the world to play here there wouldn't be an IP ban. Companies all around the world conform regional laws to have multiple nations connect to one server. Take Google for instance. Google changed it's Terms of Service to abide my EU regulations so that it could still service it's customers in EU. Why can't Gravity/WP do this? Regardless this wasn't even my point in making the post. I want to play with English speaking people, and I would like to play on an official server to do so. So again, is there an official English server I can play on? Canada, UK, Australia?

 

P.S. - Nice racism Brokoly123. You represent your country well.

 

He didnt say anything racist

 

for your question: No there's no ENGLISH speakers EXCLUSIVE server.

So, if you play RT and quit, can i have your zennys and gears?

 

Just send RODEX to Rags

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 08:16 AM

No I am not a troll and I have not replied as there is no arguing with you all. WP has long ago killed iRO. The servers no longer are associated with the iRO name and are thus named Renewal (Chaos) and Transcendence (Poring). Furthermore, regions that used to be able to play here have since been banned. If regions are not allowed to play then the game is not really an international game as certain regions are preventing from playing. You can find each servers supported region on Gravity's website. One of you mentioned that people outside of the US should just use a VPN to bypass WP's security to access the servers. This statement in itself is insanity as if Gravity and by extension WP, wanted players from all over the world to play here there wouldn't be an IP ban. Companies all around the world conform regional laws to have multiple nations connect to one server. Take Google for instance. Google changed it's Terms of Service to abide my EU regulations so that it could still service it's customers in EU. Why can't Gravity/WP do this? Regardless this wasn't even my point in making the post. I want to play with English speaking people, and I would like to play on an official server to do so. So again, is there an official English server I can play on? Canada, UK, Australia?

 

1.) Yes, you are a troll since you keep on arguing on things that can't be changed nor have the power to change it.

 

2.) You got things all wrong. Before Renewal servers were names Chaos, Loki, Iris, Valkyrie, Sakray and so on... and nothing have changed that names have stayed the same. iRO is and have always been before the server name to difference each region (Ex: kRO). Their full name with the main region have always been (Ex: iRO Chaos) before Renewal and now with different kinds of servers being on iRO the name formulas have stayed the same (iRO: Renewal Chaos, iRO: Classic Loki).

 

3.) Again, you didn't fully understand my previous posts. As I said that it was Europe's EULA that changed some rules for playing online games outside their regions. So if you still want to play "outside" of your respective region then you'll need a VPN to change your IP location.

 

4.) You can't compare WarpPortal (Gravity Interactive) and Google, the scale of power is too different and huge.

 

5.) If it wasn't your point to make a thread out of it, what did you do then? I can tell you, you made a thread and complained about your language barrier. No where in the world you will find a play that ONLY speaks the language you're speaking. Even where I live we have people speaking English and it's okay, it makes us open to other languages specially being from the province of Québec where the main language is French, but English is okay too.

 

6.) No, iRO cover up pretty much every country that doesn't have their regional server. That means Canada have always been a part of iRO.

 

7.) For how long have you been playing Ragnarok? You seem to know so little and yet you complain like you know everything!


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 10:22 PM

it is quite underwhelming to know what i talked about didn't really get through. I is sad now.


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 11:28 PM

it is quite underwhelming to know what i talked about didn't really get through. I is sad now.

Well I appreciated the effort. Keep fighting the good fight trying to keep things positive around here.


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Posted 09 July 2020 - 07:38 AM

it is quite underwhelming to know what i talked about didn't really get through. I is sad now.

i appreciated what you wrote it

 

it got through some of it

 

Thanks a lot! :)


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