April 2021 Kachua Key Feedback Thread

1. One prize medal is a joke. For firesale, 300 kp you got 1000 prize medal. This is around 200kp per Kachua so you do the math. I am not the one who make the game rule, but maybe 500 prize medal per Kachua?.

2. why nerf the Test tube boots but keep the Enforcer and Punishment shoe as before?! Ok if you have to nerf it anyway, why you have to make is +12 to make all the bonus effects, why can;t you just make it fair as the other gears for +5 and then +7 to get all the benefit

Also I see someone open a shop to scam people. He listed unknown item for 1 Billion zeny and call it new Kachua item. You guys should ban such account.

opened 2 keys:

1 BSB

1 Medal Prize

i am not gonna spend anymore

For Cylinder Boots, I can understand nerf dmg and hp, but why nerf cast time to 50%. 0 or 100%, 50 is so stupid.

Restore the whole effect of these three new ocp. Cylinder shoes is so slight effect comparing to Enforcer Shoes, Shield Ring and Fafnir Scale, 

Edited by MiroSorce, 01 April 2021 - 06:11 PM.

 

Original effects 

  Cylinder Boots Mdef + 10.

MaxHP + 3%, MaxSP + 3%.

Hit + 20 and attack speed + 20% per each level of Cart Boost user learned.

If user learned Special Pharmacy level 10, ignores defense of all race monsters by 100%.

Increases Cart Tornado damage by 10% per each level of Crazy Vines user learned.

Increases physical damage by 4% per each level of Fire Expansion user learned.

If refine rate is 5 or higher, MaxHP + 7%, MaxSP + 7%, reduces casting time of Cart Cannon by 50%, increases Cart Cannon damage by 1% per 2 base level.

If refine rate is 7 or higher, MaxHP + 10%, MaxSP + 10%, reduces casting time of Cart Cannon by 50%, increases Cart Cannon damage by 1% per 2 base level.

Restore that PLEASE
 

 

1. One prize medal is a joke. For firesale, 300 kp you got 1000 prize medal. This is around 200kp per Kachua so you do the math. I am not the one who make the game rule, but maybe 500 prize medal per Kachua?.

 

2. why nerf the Test tube boots but keep the Enforcer and Punishment shoe as before?! Ok if you have to nerf it anyway, why you have to make is +12 to make all the bonus effects, why can;t you just make it fair as the other gears for +5 and then +7 to get all the benefit

 

Also I see someone open a shop to scam people. He listed unknown item for 1 Billion zeny and call it new Kachua item. You guys should ban such account.

Restore the whole effect of these three new ocp. Cylinder shoes is so slight effect comparing to Enforcer Shoes, Shield Ring and Fafnir Scale, 

 

Please restore the original effect of Cylinder Shoes, that is, 

 

when refine level is +12 or higher:
MaxHP + 10%, MaxSP + 10%,

reduces casting time of Cart Cannon by 50%,

increases Cart Cannon damage by 1% per 2 base level.

 

rather than only gives

Max HP + 3%

Max SP + 3%

 

 

Also please restore the original 12% cast delay reduction of Feather Shield at some achievable refine rate (like +9, or +12).

 

I am not sure if I got all similar opinions but @Camp did you see what the crowd say? Also another quick question, will take another few months for you to report to kRO like what you did for the other bugs like FAS etc?

Edited by ChakriGuard, 01 April 2021 - 06:33 PM.

Was about to write long but meh, i just want to add that is not added from the others. Information i gather is from Indonesia official server (idRO/ROFL)

1. I agree with this completely, so i will emphasize it once more; BSB and Prize medal adjustment.

2. Bring more item boxes sold as way to get kachua key:
-Shining Def Scroll Box 
-Holy armor Scroll Box
-Undead armor Scroll Box
-Blessing of Tyr Box
-Red Booster Box

-Elixir Box

-Enriched Ore box (in idRO this is HD cuz of different mechanism and rate)

3. Bring more shadows, except penet and tempest maybe cuz we already got of bypasser. and i encourage to bring in the silver/gold tier shadow
-Blitz set
-Size set
-Perfect Size (Drake) set

-Hasty set
-Status ailment silver tier shadow (Unfrozen II, Plasterer II, Adurate II)
-EXP boosting Shadow (Rookie 1-99)(Expert 100-150)
-Attack and Defense Shadow set
-Reload Shadow Set

4. Add the "Family" of General Helmet and Spell Circuit:
-Ignis Cap
-Woof Officer
-Amistr Beret

-Fancy Feather Hat

-etc. etc. etc.

The prize range itself is already good, idRO kachua has too broad item pool for prizes, its bad

Yama did it again~

 

Here's my 2 zeny

1. 1 Prize Medal. Please adjust the amount for prize medal or remove it altogether. 

 

2. 1 HE Battle Manual - At least change it to BMX3, we need 4 HE Battle Manual to change to one BMX3.  I know we aren't suppose to mess and compare market prices but taking the price of 1 Blacksmith Blessing (Which already have people complaining about, this reward is 1/6  of that.

 

3. Aqua Bunny Band, Moon Eyepatch, Ixion Wing, Mechanic Shoes, Siegfried's Helmet, Hunting Knife - I know some people internally scream when they get the Aqua Bunny Band since its such an old item, but seems like a welcoming addition to have previously common/uncommon tier here. Also provides an avenue to get previous items / grandma boxter so thumbs up on this. 

 

4. Status Shadow Item Combiner, Refine Tickets, Essense of Powerful Soul, Shadow Gears Boxes - I guess these will remain a staple until we receive new shadow gears. There's already a discussion on this so I guess i'm neutral on it since its kinda expected that they will be in for a while.

 

5. New Gears. - 

 

i) Feather Shield*

- +20 to get original effect seems a bit too much. Remember that time when we were getting refine attempts data collected in sakray and Ashuckel was the one that skewed the data till +18. Heck, we can't make it to +20 in the test server.

- However on a more realistic note of +12 to +14, that means:

8-9% aspd (12% Original)  
8-9% after cast delay (12% Original)
60-70 Atk and Matk (50 Original, new max is 100)

 

People would frown at it since we need +20 to get the original aspd/aftercast delay effect, but the atk/matk given is more compare to the original. If you're intending to go this round and armor is comparable to weapon lvl 4 refine rates I would suggest it to be lowered to be equivalent to the other refine rates suggested in this box (i.e Guardian Soul). +15 is already hard, not to mention +16 and above.

 

ii) Guardian Soul*

At +15

 

Reduced Skill Delay Usage by 1% for every 18 points of Pure Luk and Str

Atk +14 for every 18 points of Pure Luk and Str

7% Resistance to Shadow and Holy attribute attacks for every 18 points of Pure Luk and Str

MaxHP 3% for every 18 points of Pure Agi and Vit

7% Resistance to Fire and Water attribute attacks for every 18 points of Pure Agi and Vit

mAtk +14 for every 18 points of Pure Int and Dex

7% Resistance to Wind and Earth attribute attacks for every 18 points of Pure Int and Dex

- Assuming its 18 of any int/dex (so you can have 1 agi and 17 dex to activate it), so with a 90 int 90 dex we will get 70% resistance. 252 stats ( 122/130 or 126/126 will give you 98% resistance.)

 

 At +14

- 5% per 18 stats so 50% at total of 180 stats.

- 12 ATK per 18 stats so 120 ATK/MATK

 

+14 is achievable, +15 is also still within the realms of being realistic (For those willing to spend).  On the balance side though... Good luck for those in WoE. PvM only have to worry about a single or two element at one time. I can see this being worn at bio5 or places with many elemental.   

 

Also **coughs** Elemetal Proof Potions. (20% to the selected element and -15% to the other), Think of the possibility.
 

iii) Cylinder Boots* 
- If you decide to nerf the dmg, thats fine cause of 'balance'. But at least please put in the additional -50% Cart cannon variable cast in. There's only two other items with specific skill variable cast for cart cannon and its Harverster Hat and Cylinder hairband with both of them being able to achieve 100% on its own. As skill specific variable cast doesn't stack with general variable cast reduction, and the other items being redundant (100% already). I don't see a point of having 50% and not giving the full 100%

- Would be awesome to get 100% aspd buff on gene to increase our miserable aspd (especially when poked with Pain killer), but its not a game breaking feature since most of us does manual animation casting.

If I got anything written wrongly, please feel free to correct me. I just woke up so...

 

1Prize Medal.... OUCH!

5 prize medals....

Please learn your own game. Stop picking random useless items that you know nothing about. People don't want useless recycled items from your cash shop. Stop pretending like you know your game.

Edited by VanishingPoint, 05 April 2021 - 12:48 PM.

Cylinder boots has slot.

Edited by mic9010, 01 April 2021 - 09:30 PM.

I would rather it does not have a slot but restore the original effect

1. Nerfed gear feedback:

a. I think it's fair to scale the refinement requirements up like what has been done with recent jRO items, since my understanding is that max upgrade level in jRO is +10. But I don't know how hard it is to upgrade to different tiers in jRO. Maybe staff could create and publish a table showing the odds comparisons, and use this as a standard for future conversions?

b. Some of the nerfs don't make sense. Guardian Soul original effect enables Heaven's Drive lvl 3, nerfed version enables lvl 1. Why was this original effect considered too strong? It seems like a pointless nerf.

Cylinder Boots +12 effect seems like an afterthought added just to entice players to buy cash shop ores. You could have avoided this appearance if you released it with no +12 effect at all, or by halving original effects of +9 and +12 instead.

2. Item selection feedback:

a. Player request thread (this one: https://forums.warpp...-shop-requests/) doesn't seem like an effective way to bring in items the majority of players actually want. I do see the three new gears mentioned in that thread, but many players seem to just throw huge lists in there with every new thing iRO doesn't have.

Instead of using this thread, I suggest you engage players with polls about items you are considering. If you did this regularly (weekly?), with 3 or 4 potential items, it would also keep players excited about possible upcoming new items during the wait times between releases. I think ideally you would NOT want to make the poll results public, so that players could not determine with certainty what would be in the new box.

Just a forum post would be an improvement, but ideally you would make players aware of these polls in-game as well. You could put a link on the patcher to the current poll, and possibly use in-game announcements as well (maybe take the place of the tired message about new items being available in the cash shop that ALWAYS runs regardless of whether there are new items in the cash shop?).

b. Some players seem not to mind the inclusion of "junk" items from older boxes in this latest release. But you could just as easily have added desirable items from those boxes instead. The current implementation is an example of a lootbox within a lootbox, just like the shadow cubes (which some players have also expressed disappointment with).

3. Kachua implementation feedback:

Many players have expressed disinterest in the crates the Kachua Keys are attached to and asked for other options. Staff has made no changes to this implementation through all four Kachua releases despite the numerous requests. Players have provided plenty of examples of items that would be more desirable for them, such as Ore boxes (which seems only fair since the new gears are being modified to require higher upgrade levels for maximum benefit), or items that have become scarce on the server due to ratio balances being altered in Kachua compared to older boxes (Blacksmith Blessing).

Staff performance feedback:

WarpPortal Community Management staff has a history of ignoring, forgetting, and just failing to comprehend community feedback. If you are going to create a feedback thread like this one, you need to actually engage with the community and use the feedback provided to implement positive change and make your players want to continue to communicate with you.

plase show the rate of the items inside kachua box

So, you'll keep the Kachua one week to improve your profits cheating people with the rewards and then you'll remove this aberration from the Kafra shop

Spent 20K WPE and got 0 shields and a whole whopping 5 Prize Medals. Yeah they better bring back the original effect or else people will be pissed and never spend again. I'm going AFK for another year until they get their -_-s together.

Edited by VanishingPoint, 02 April 2021 - 10:58 AM.

so the new kachua update has been implemented? are they gonna refund/replace those that got the measly 1 medal per kachua lol

why couldnt this be pushed back at least 1 more week until the feedback has been gone through. WP always have been late anyway. this feels like a blatant cash grab.

I dont usually write at the forums. but I think its unfair to nerf the Cylinder boots. please change the boots on its original effects. +12 for max hp, sp 3% lol.(tbh i dont think GM will read this).