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#1 sokernet

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Posted 14 July 2021 - 07:34 PM

Holy Stick + Amistr beret combo ?

Ultio OS ?

Valk Hammer ?


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Posted 15 July 2021 - 09:12 AM

Depends what you're fighting, what else you're wearing, and what your criteria for "best" is: burst damage, DPS, convenience (e.g., no Blue Gemstones)?

 

Based on the descriptions of items and (desired) refine levels of the equipment you intend to wear, you can calculate the bonuses to skill, boss, race, size, property, magic element, matk, etc.

Then you can use compare.irowiki.org to determine what's best (in terms of burst damage) against different enemies.

 

Holy Stick deals more damage than the other two against Demon/Undead race AND Shadow/Undead property because of the set bonus with Shoes of Punishment.

Holy Stick + Sacred Crown is better than Holy Stick + Amistr Beret against Undead property bosses because it has bonuses for boss, Undead property (and Earth, Ghost, Neutral) and skill. Bonuses across categories are multiplicative with each other, while bonuses within the same category are additive with each other.

 

For example, 25% boss + 25% size yields a bigger increase than just 50% boss.

100 * 1.25 * 1.25 = 156.25

vs.
100 * 1.5 = 150


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#3 sokernet

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Posted 15 July 2021 - 03:24 PM

Depends what you're fighting, what else you're wearing, and what your criteria for "best" is: burst damage, DPS, convenience (e.g., no Blue Gemstones)?

 

Based on the descriptions of items and (desired) refine levels of the equipment you intend to wear, you can calculate the bonuses to skill, boss, race, size, property, magic element, matk, etc.

Then you can use compare.irowiki.org to determine what's best (in terms of burst damage) against different enemies.

 

Holy Stick deals more damage than the other two against Demon/Undead race AND Shadow/Undead property because of the set bonus with Shoes of Punishment.

Holy Stick + Sacred Crown is better than Holy Stick + Amistr Beret against Undead property bosses because it has bonuses for boss, Undead property (and Earth, Ghost, Neutral) and skill. Bonuses across categories are multiplicative with each other, while bonuses within the same category are additive with each other.

 

For example, 25% boss + 25% size yields a bigger increase than just 50% boss.

100 * 1.25 * 1.25 = 156.25

vs.
100 * 1.5 = 150

the compare iro wiki is complicated, there are few things that i don't how to fill up. 

 

i aim for high damage, let say I'm fighting stephen jack ernest wolf which is undead. so if I have +16 holy stick with amistr beret, will sacred crown still do more damage?


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Posted 15 July 2021 - 09:03 PM

Which fields are you unsure on? If you hover your mouse cursor over the name of the field, you will see a tooltip that gives an example of a skill or item that applies to that field. You can also check the MATK entry on the wiki to see what goes into MATK:

https://irowiki.org/wiki/MATK

 

Magic Attack property isn't a selectable field at compare.irowiki.org--the Attacking Property only affects physical attacks, from my testing. You can apply the Target Property Reduction (determined by the combination of Magic Attack property and Target property) manually at the end after you get the Average MATK result. This isn't necessary, because you're using the same enemy for comparison.

Skill Bonus also isn't a field at compare.irowiki.org, so apply that manually at the end after you apply the Target Property Reduction. All other fields should be explained by the tooltip and/or the wiki.


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 04:31 PM

Holy Stick deals more damage than the other two against Demon/Undead race AND Shadow/Undead property because of the set bonus with Shoes of Punishment.

Holy Stick + Sacred Crown is better than Holy Stick + Amistr Beret against Undead property bosses because it has bonuses for boss, Undead property (and Earth, Ghost, Neutral) and skill. Bonuses across categories are multiplicative with each other, while bonuses within the same category are additive with each other.

 

For example, 25% boss + 25% size yields a bigger increase than just 50% boss.

100 * 1.25 * 1.25 = 156.25

vs.
100 * 1.5 = 150

this is not right ? Tested on bijou. Holy stick + amistr yield more damage 100-150k+ than holy stick + sacred crown


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Posted 22 July 2021 - 06:06 PM

That's very possible, depending on the rest of your setup.

 

For the setup in this post from Ralen, Sacred Crown did more damage than Amistr Beret against Undead race+property boss.

https://forums.warpp...t/#entry3006936


Edited by 6250140829153758463, 22 July 2021 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2021 - 03:46 PM

dosent the empowered mace of judjment + set add +200% dmg to adoramus plus +40% dmg to demons other buffs? Im not an expert AB since i main warlock but my AB uses that set to very good effect


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Posted 18 August 2021 - 03:49 PM

the opportunity cost with the rest of the gear pieces required to activate the effect makes it the weaker choice


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Posted 19 August 2021 - 05:39 AM

it depends on your capital and what are you gonna kill:

 

 

Holy Stick + Shoes of punishment = Pretty standard and decent. Good damage against Undead monster and general.

Valkyrie mace (x4 True card) + Slotted shoes (Fallen bishop) = good against demi human (I guess work fine in WoE, i dunno)

 


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Posted 19 August 2021 - 07:19 AM

Min max?

 

Valky hammer + Illusion -> overall best

Illusion OS + illusion -> Specific on your options in this mace (This make you need 3-4 mace for all race)

Holy + Punish -> Undead Shadow ele Undead Demon race


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