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Any Future plans for the rest of the players to get higher than +4 KVM wepons?


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#51 Hallows

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:15 PM

Notice the ridiculous proc rate of weapon awakening.

Sure mobster carded ones might do more damage but thats depending on how you stat your character.

This weapon will allow you to stat alot more onto str/dex/vit, and still keep up the constant buff to keep you attaking at ridiculous speeds.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 01:38 PM

Doesnt really matter how much easier it is since they were all easy to make at the time.

do you have both? bcz I've tested my dmg with quad aural and i've seen a gx with same amount of str (110) using a triple on a jur[3]. I was doing more dmg.

and heres a demonstration of this +9 KVM jam (consider my GX which is higher level than him with 110 str does lower dmg crits to isilla/vanburk with 4x mobster spec jur +10, ofcourse these are demi-humans tho)



I've owned all 3 (Jur/SpecJur/Glorious Jama) and ended up selling the Spec Jur because it did less damage than the Jur. The problem is it's low base attack and the fact that level 1 weapons get minimal bonuses from upgrades (+% dmg cards aren't as useful in renewal as dmg is mostly weapon based).


and for the video -- it's not THAT impressive. My GX is level 108 and I inflict roughly the same amount with my +10 Aural Jur WITHOUT all of those food/priest buffs he has on him (also note he's fighting Demi-humans, the weapon KVM weapons are designed to kill). I highly doubt that ANY GX levels with a KVM Jama -- you're always better off using an elementally carded katar (ie. Triple Saharic Wind Katar, Triple Underneath Fire, etc. ) When the enemy is neutral, I still use the Jur since it does more DPS.


I'm going to go ahead and guess you don't own a KVM katar since you seem to think they are so godly. They really aren't useful as utility weapons, it's only really good for demi-human mobs (or players). The proc chance is 7% on hit. The reason it activates so much in the video is because his base attack speed is already near maxed. The more your attack speed, the more it procs, and the less benefit you get from it.

Edited by Valdes, 13 February 2011 - 01:41 PM.

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#53 Hallows

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:29 PM

I've owned all 3 (Jur/SpecJur/Glorious Jama) and ended up selling the Spec Jur because it did less damage than the Jur. The problem is it's low base attack and the fact that level 1 weapons get minimal bonuses from upgrades (+% dmg cards aren't as useful in renewal as dmg is mostly weapon based).


and for the video -- it's not THAT impressive. My GX is level 108 and I inflict roughly the same amount with my +10 Aural Jur WITHOUT all of those food/priest buffs he has on him (also note he's fighting Demi-humans, the weapon KVM weapons are designed to kill). I highly doubt that ANY GX levels with a KVM Jama -- you're always better off using an elementally carded katar (ie. Triple Saharic Wind Katar, Triple Underneath Fire, etc. ) When the enemy is neutral, I still use the Jur since it does more DPS.


I'm going to go ahead and guess you don't own a KVM katar since you seem to think they are so godly. They really aren't useful as utility weapons, it's only really good for demi-human mobs (or players). The proc chance is 7% on hit. The reason it activates so much in the video is because his base attack speed is already near maxed. The more your attack speed, the more it procs, and the less benefit you get from it.


I actually do own a +9 Glorious Katar, just not the Jamhadar (I had the KVM from before, just couldnt upgrade it so I re-stat to crit when I got myself a 4x mobster spec jur, then got lucky enough to get my old glorious katar to +9 and re-statted to make full use of it).

Im sitting on 185 aspd and 7% proc rate pretty much gives me a perma-buff as long as i melee grind.

Another thing to consider is that +10 spec jur is more easily obtainable atm than +9 Jur[3] since.. Spec jur is ofcourse a lvl 1 weapon and can be upgraded safely to +7, therefore allowing unlimited use of HD ores without any breaks (im sure the GMs said they're bringing it back into the shop soon right?).

Well im not here to argue about a topic i may be wrong in. IF i am indeed mistaken here (my opinions were based on my +9 glorious katar/+10 4x mobster spec jur), i'm glad i was corrected.

But again, from my build style, my opinion still stands. My 4x mobster spec jur stands no chance of out-dpsing my +9 Glorious katar in terms of grinding speed nearly anywhere I hunt (using chick hat for double atk, which may be helping with the +9 buff triggers).

quote "They really aren't useful as utility weapons, it's only really good for demi-human mobs (or players)."

also, thats is the whole point here... +9 KVM are undoubtably best PVP weapons for most classes in the game when the game mainly revolves around PVP. Also, there are more demi-human type monsters than any other types of monsters past lvl 100+ all the way to level 160. (not to mention pretty much the entire bio lab)

*once again, this post wasnt ment to start arguments (I guess I might have sparked it? lol), I just wanted to know if there will be another event like the last one which will allow more people to have the KVM gears upgraded to +9, or get any KVM gears at all basically.... too bad theres still no GM response here

but yeah feel free to correct me wrong, I am fulling willing to admit my mistakes or wrong information, im by no means a "pro" in the world of RO.

Edited by Hallows, 13 February 2011 - 07:35 PM.

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