Is RO a single-player experience?
#1
Posted 14 February 2011 - 11:16 AM
What's your take? Would you consider the game to be single-player experience? What depends on the scenario?
lol ludicrous analysis :U
#2
Posted 14 February 2011 - 11:20 AM
#3
Posted 14 February 2011 - 11:21 AM
#4
Posted 14 February 2011 - 11:22 AM
If you're one of the 5 classes that matter, you can level great solo, and don't want anyone else in your party as they're just slowing you down. You might party with each other, but even then, you'll all just be winging around solo, and using the small xp bonus for being *technically* in a party. Forming a real, cooperative value has exactly zero value.
If you're *not* one of those 5 classes, no one wants you in a party, or frankly, the game. If I log into my lock, I have people *in town* telling me I'm wasting my time on a failure of a class, and well... they aren't wrong.
The classes need to be rebalanced. The party share needs to be increased. We need monsters that are hard to kill, and worth it exp-wise. kRO refuses to do any of these 3 things, however, even the share increase which would require them to change a whole 10 rows in a database table.
Anyone who parties at this point is doing it purely to avoid the soul-crushing boredom of fighting the same monsters from 30-150, with nothing changing but the graphics and the size of the numbers being thrown around... and they're trading leveling speed to do it.
Edited by Mwrip, 14 February 2011 - 11:23 AM.
#5
Posted 14 February 2011 - 11:50 AM
For me, playing a game isn't so much about the end goal but the journey to that goal. I liked meeting new people, making friends, sharing ideas, working together for a common goal, etc. but all of that has been stripped away. AB's have given up on finding parties in droves and began making other chars. Just finding someone that will play one full time these days is a treat. But can't expect them to sit around pront town forever hoping party system will be revived.
#6
Posted 14 February 2011 - 11:55 AM
#7
Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:14 PM
Edited by Harbinger77, 14 February 2011 - 12:16 PM.
#8
Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:20 PM
Its more efficient to say the least. Buts its experience come from the multi-player aspect, i mean whose favorite moment in RO was the time you were all alone, I'm guessing there shouldn't be a lot
Well, my favorite gameplay moments were taking on crazy challenges in a party and managing to win. Renewal has destroyed all challenge, and penalizes you if you even try to find one.
#9
Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:40 PM
"hi"
"Want to party?"
"no thx"
"You don't want a Priest's support? "
"got my alt"
#10
Posted 14 February 2011 - 01:41 PM
99% of my grinding time is with a friend. When I try to solo alone, I give up in -3 second.
Go out,
take chances,
talk to someone new,
You never know what the future will bring.
=D
#11
Posted 14 February 2011 - 01:45 PM
Edited by Fibrizzo, 14 February 2011 - 01:46 PM.
#12
Posted 14 February 2011 - 01:46 PM
Well, my favorite gameplay moments were taking on crazy challenges in a party and managing to win. Renewal has destroyed all challenge, and penalizes you if you even try to find one.
Bio3's a challenge
But then I think making a mob tougher than most MVPs = 3x Venatu exp was kinda silly/stupid/astonishingly bad.
#13
Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:13 PM
That is how much RO taught me to party
#14
Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:28 PM
+1
#15
Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:43 PM
#16
Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:49 PM
sad day's these are~
#17
Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:26 PM
#18
Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:28 PM
from what i can see most mmo player nowadays plays solo....aside from fps games
To be honest, I've been playing mmos for over 10 years now (starting from Lineage 1 way back during jr.high).
I havent seen such a broken party system in any game i've played upto this point.
WHO WANTS TO PARY WHEN SOLO = 3X BETTER EXP?
I have 2 characters lvl 120+ and I havent been in a party prior, or since Ice titan events.
Maybe if Fly wings are disabled in field/dungeon, then some support classes could party up with melee/solo'ers to grind with but if that happens, i probably wouldnt even want to grind anymore.
Edited by Hallows, 14 February 2011 - 03:32 PM.
#19
Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:41 PM
To be honest, I've been playing mmos for over 10 years now (starting from Lineage 1 way back during jr.high).
I havent seen such a broken party system in any game i've played upto this point.
WHO WANTS TO PARY WHEN SOLO = 3X BETTER EXP?
I have 2 characters lvl 120+ and I havent been in a party prior, or since Ice titan events.
Maybe if Fly wings are disabled in field/dungeon, then some support classes could party up with melee/solo'ers to grind with but if that happens, i probably wouldnt even want to grind anymore.
guess its just me...finding a party has always been hard for me regardless what game i play
#20
Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:09 PM
#21
Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:09 PM
guess its just me...finding a party has always been hard for me regardless what game i play
maybe i've just been into games that happens to have an atleast decent party system.. XD
but seriously, this games party system is broken beyond any other game ive ever heard of. cant believe they call it the "renewal"
Its almost as if the GM's and DEV's are more concerned what BOTS would ABUSE rather than how much of a negative effect it will have on USERs.
its like theyre in war with bots but their efforts are wasted in the wrong place.... because theyre losing as many players as the bots that are being banned. eventually they'll get the bot numbers down to >500, and so will the player numbers.
Edited by Hallows, 14 February 2011 - 04:11 PM.
#22
Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:26 PM
RO needs more instance dungeon and other party focused activities. The idea behind being in a party is so that you can take on tougher monsters, but there isn't any point in trying to form a party to take on anything outside of an MVP thats' already being camped by a bunch of others. From what I can see, the party system is fine, what's broken is the exp bonus/penalty for killing monsters higher level than you are. I mean I totally understand that killing monsters lower level than you are should result in an exp penalty but being able to get 140% of the exp value on a monster that's 10 levels higher than you and only 40% of the exp for a monster 16 levels higher than you is kinda retarded.
I mean I understand that Gravity doesn't want people to abuse the exp system like we did pre-renewal taking on Anubis as a level 10 novice with a lvl 99 merc and I already know that I can kill certain monsters 100 levels higher than me in renewal with a 99 merc, but maybe just removing the 'bonus' entirely and extending it so that the exp penalty hits at 31 levels higher than the players level. That way there's an incentive to partying.
PS. While the fixes are being made, also fix kahii as it's totally broken. RG's shouldn't be able to use what's supposed to be a defensive skill to mob an entire map and kill things in a sustained format indefinitely.
#23
Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:41 PM
If you're amongst one of the few classes that can solo effetively and have lots of money to spend on healing items, this game is pretty much a single player experience with a chat system to talk to others.
You don't even need lots of zeny now ^^;. I use about 50k~100k zeny per hour of leveling on my chaser, using meat with double hellhound accessories + gympasses to make up for the weight. Several other people use icecream, the rideword hat for SP/HP and moonie dagger for SP, Kaahi...
#24
Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:42 PM
#25
Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:55 PM
maybe i've just been into games that happens to have an atleast decent party system.. XD
but seriously, this games party system is broken beyond any other game ive ever heard of. cant believe they call it the "RENEWAL"
Its almost as if the GM's and DEV's are more concerned what BOTS would ABUSE rather than how much of a negative effect it will have on USERs.
its like theyre in war with bots but their efforts are wasted in the wrong place.... because theyre losing as many players as the bots that are being banned. eventually they'll get the bot numbers down to >500, and so will the player numbers.
you dont need to party when you have bot slaves with you. or dual client and have your buffer/linker/enchanter/whatever somewhere with you. you dont need to party when u can easily make/buy +9 gears and pots/yyg or whatever because you bought kp/zeny. its not just xp why people dont party, because its easy to party yourself.
Truer words were never spoken. Can't agree more.
Edited by TsubasaWingz, 14 February 2011 - 04:57 PM.
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