Edited by bennilava, 19 April 2011 - 05:30 PM.
Kafra Warps Removed?
#1
Posted 17 April 2011 - 07:07 PM
#2
Posted 17 April 2011 - 07:20 PM
What ? What are you talking about.Kafra Warps, except for Prontera, have been removed from the game and are for VIP only
#3
Posted 17 April 2011 - 07:27 PM
Edited by bennilava, 19 April 2011 - 05:28 PM.
#4
Posted 17 April 2011 - 08:28 PM
#5
Posted 17 April 2011 - 08:51 PM
Edited by bennilava, 19 April 2011 - 05:29 PM.
#6
Posted 17 April 2011 - 08:56 PM
#7
Posted 18 April 2011 - 04:27 AM
Well, for a few days, at the very least, warps were allowed for non-VIPers, which I personally used so I know it worked.
Are you on Ymir or Ygg? Gravity had been extending people's accounts on Ymir as a special favour to those who were waiting for F2P, so they could play 'free' and not have to quit playing until F2P, but as they hadn't setup non-VIP/VIP settings yet and Ymir/Ygg was Premium they could only give free Premium/VIP-like extensions, including the extra warp options. But those extensions should be running out this month for alot of people (mine runs out end of this week due to the timing of when I re-activated my account and some others I know had their run out over the weekend). On Valkyrie though its pretty much always been that way when free so they're more used to it. They just save in Prontera where theres still a lot of warp options.
Each of the official servers have different setups for subscription vs free plans. But iRO is only just starting with this particular plan, there'll be more plans for subscriptions in future. For example idRO, tRO and malaysia/singapore server you lose items on death when free which sounds pretty crazy
http://irowiki.org/wiki/F2P
It might be nice for them to offer a Warp Key though one-off purchase in the Kafra Shop however if not modifying the warps from the previous Free settings.
Edited by soudou, 18 April 2011 - 04:49 AM.
#8
Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:15 AM
#9
Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:33 AM
#10
Posted 18 April 2011 - 07:12 AM
#11
Posted 18 April 2011 - 07:54 AM
How about if instead of the current system, VIP got to warp between all towns (from anywhere to anywhere) for a set cost (for example, 2000 zeny). That would be increased convenience, now I don't have to save in prontera anyways, now I can warp from anywhere to anywhere.
Then, change non VIP to have a few warps, for a high price, for example 10000 zeny. For example, from payon, you got to warp to alberta or izlude. From izlude, you get to warp to alberta or prontera. From prontera, you ca warp to izlude, morroc, of geffen... and so on.
Then, you get two now changes for non VIP:
1) You are now not trapped in a single place in the world if you don't save in prontera, which discourages players.
and
2) You can not just save in prontera and warp to anywhere like premium players. So now indeed, multiple warping becomes a premium service.
#12
Posted 18 April 2011 - 10:56 AM
Edited by bennilava, 19 April 2011 - 05:29 PM.
#13
Posted 18 April 2011 - 01:48 PM
#14
Posted 18 April 2011 - 02:03 PM
I'd be OK having VIP free and non-VIP priced.
#15
Posted 18 April 2011 - 03:32 PM
#16
Posted 18 April 2011 - 06:50 PM
Edited by bennilava, 19 April 2011 - 05:29 PM.
#17
Posted 18 April 2011 - 06:54 PM
#18
Posted 18 April 2011 - 06:59 PM
Not literally "trapped". I wasn't talking about DBs or BBs. Trapped meaning that if you save there, you'd have to walk to get out of the city, whereas with Prontera you can warp out of it. Didn't think I'd have to explain this, honestly.
If all of your paths to Prontera are filled up with DBs or BBs... then walking to get out of the city is not an option. And don't forget about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhOsHqaGkXI&feature=related
Edited by mooMOOmoo, 18 April 2011 - 07:03 PM.
#19
Posted 19 April 2011 - 01:58 AM
#20
Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:41 AM
#21
Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:48 AM
For example, at geffen's kafra:
VIP warps:
Every rune midgard warps + juno+ orc dungeon...or is it coal mine from geffen? can't remember
Non-VIPs:
Prontera
Aldebaran
Orc dungeon or coal mine, can't really remember which
At prontera:
VIP:
Every rune midgard warps + juno+ orc dungeon
non-VIP:
The normal pre-merge kafra warps, I really can,t remember what they were...
morroc
geffen
payon
izlude
Orc dungeon
I think?
That would be better than whatever we have now imo =x
#22
Posted 19 April 2011 - 12:29 PM
#23
Posted 19 April 2011 - 10:28 PM
#24
Posted 19 April 2011 - 10:35 PM
MAP | SERVICE TYPE | SAVE | STORAGE FEE | TELEPORT | PRICE | PUSHCART | CHECK SPECIAL RESERVE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Prontera Middle | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Orc Dungeon Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 600 1200 1200 1200 1700 1800 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES | |
Prontera South | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Orc Dungeon Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 600 1200 1200 1200 1700 1800 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES | |
Prontera East | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Orc Dungeon Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 600 1200 1200 1200 1700 1800 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES | |
Prontera West | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Izlude Geffen Payon Morroc Orc Dungeon Alberta Aldebaran Comodo Umbala | 600 1200 1200 1200 1700 1800 2000 3000 3000 | 800 | YES | |
Prontera Castle | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | n/a |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | n/a | |
Culverts Entrance | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES |
VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES | |
Izlude | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Geffen Payon Morroc Aldebaran | 1200 1200 1200 1800 | 820 | YES | |
Geffen Warp in | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 750 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 30 | Prontera Aldebaran Orc Dungeon Mjolnir Dead Pit | 1200 1200 1700 1700 | 750 | YES | |
Geffen East | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 750 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 30 | Prontera Aldebaran Orc Dungeon Mjolnir Dead Pit | 1200 1200 1700 1700 | 750 | YES | |
Aldebaran | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 600 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 20 | Geffen Juno Izlude Mjolnir Dead Pit | 1200 1200 1800 1700 | 600 | YES | |
Inside Kafra Headquarters | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
VIP | Yes | 20 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | |
Morocc North | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 930 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 60 | Prontera Payon Alberta Comodo Paros Lighthouse | 1200 1200 1800 1800 1200 | 930 | YES | |
Morocc South | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | Prontera | n/a | 930 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 60 | Prontera Payon Alberta Comodo Paros Lighthouse | 1200 1200 1800 1800 1200 | 930 | YES | |
Alberta West | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 850 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 50 | Payon Morocc Prontera | 1200 1800 1800 | 850 | YES | |
Alberta Warp in | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 850 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 50 | Payon Morocc Prontera | 1200 1800 1800 | 850 | YES | |
Payon South | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 930 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 60 | Prontera Alberta Morocc | 1200 1200 1200 | 930 | YES | |
Payon North | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 930 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 60 | Prontera Alberta Morocc | 1200 1200 1200 | 930 | YES | |
Byalan Island | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | 1200 | n/a |
VIP | No | 120 | n/a | n/a | 1200 | n/a | |
Alberta Island | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES |
VIP | No | 150 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES | |
Archer Village | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | 1200 | YES |
VIP | No | 90 | n/a | n/a | 1200 | YES | |
Morocc Ruins | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | 1200 | YES |
VIP | No | 90 | n/a | n/a | 1200 | YES | |
Orc Dungeon | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES |
VIP | No | 130 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES | |
Mjolnir Dead Pit | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES |
VIP | No | 100 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES | |
Paros Lighthouse | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 1000 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | Morocc Comodo | 1200 1200 | 1000 | YES | |
Comodo | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 1000 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | Morroc Paros Lighthouse Umbala | 1800 1200 1800 | 1000 | YES | |
Juno East | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Aldebaran | 1200 | 800 | YES | |
Juno North | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Aldebaran | 1200 | 800 | YES | |
Juno Middle | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | Einbroch Lighthalzen Hugel Rachel | 2000 2000 2000 2000 | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | Aldebaran Einbroch Lighthalzen Hugel Rachel | 1200 1200 1200 1200 1200 | 800 | YES | |
Amatsu | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 50 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES | |
Kunlun | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES | |
Umbala | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | n/a | n/a | n/a | YES | |
Nifflheim | Non-VIP | No | 500 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
VIP | No | 150 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a | |
Louyang | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES | |
Ayothaya | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES | |
Einbroch West | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES | |
Einbroch East | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES | |
Einbroch | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 850 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 850 | YES | |
Lighthalzen | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES | |
Lighthalzen East | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES | |
Lighthalzen Hotel | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | YES | |
Brasilis | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 800 | n/a |
VIP | Yes | 40 | n/a | n/a | 800 | n/a | |
Moscovia | Non-VIP | Yes | 500 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES |
VIP | Yes | 80 | n/a | n/a | 700 | YES |
#25
Posted 19 April 2011 - 10:51 PM
How about for non vip members. In all basic towns you can at least warp to the town nearest to the town your in. For example.
If you are in Alberta, you can warp to Payon.
If you are in Payon, you can warp to Prontera or Alberta.
If you are in Morroc, you can warp to Comodo, Geffen or Prontera.
If you are in Geffen you can warp to Prontera or Morroc.
If you are in Comodo you can warp to Morroc or Umbala.
For new players under the level of, let's say 40. They will be able to warp to all basic towns via the Eden Group. Basic towns are Payon, Prontera, Morroc, Geffen, and Alberta. Job change towns basically.
As it stands now, Non VIP can't really warp from anywhere except Prontera. Warping is a big part of RO. It's a big world. Who wants to wait for a non VIP party member to cross the Morroc desert to join them in a Angeling Hunt. No one!
I think warps should be available from every town, maybe not the same amount VIP members get, but at least some basic functionality.
Edited by Maka, 19 April 2011 - 11:02 PM.
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