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#26 Mortuus

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 01:57 PM

Doesn't look to me like druid skills are affected by the sword damage bug.

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#27 Syre

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 02:16 PM

btw

Sword is good cuz its work like knuckes on activation skills

Knuckles are bugged as well with showing the damage twice or three times over. However the reason they do more damage is because of the SCAD.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:15 PM

is a awesome bug , if it is... guess a druid can do over 3 k or close to 4 k with swords and knuckes.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:21 PM

is a awesome bug , if it is... guess a druid can do over 3 k or close to 4 k with swords and knuckes.


Nah a visual bug. Doesn't actually happen that you do such damage. Just reviewed swords and I conclude that they are the worst choice for druid actually heh. Lower damage and str cannot make up for it. Knuckles and hammer have way more damage. Hammer is close enough HP-wise except in Tyrant versions. Axe is also better. So there is supposedly a dmg bug/feature in swords? Naema said above that it doesn't seem to work for druid so there is no reason for any druid to use sword. Unless they just would like to look cool with a big glowy 75 sword. I can dig that. The one sole use is if a druid has a really good shield and they like tanking. Then Tyrant sword and shield is ok. However axe adds just as much HP and is good choice outside of just tanking although if for pve purposes i wouldn't choose Tyrant axe, but instead one that ups physical crit. Sword only adds evasion over the axe but axe is good pve weapon choice.

Summary: Sword(Tyrant only) is only okay for tanking simply because of its slightly higher HP over the axe and its slight(and probably useless) evasion. They should also have an extremely good shield to go with it or Tyrant Knuckles is a better choice.

Edited by Syre, 20 May 2011 - 12:37 PM.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:27 AM

Summary: Sword(Tyrant only) is only okay for tanking simply because of its slightly higher HP over the axe and its slight(and probably useless) evasion. They should also have an extremely good shield to go with it or Tyrant Knuckles is a better choice.

Lvl 75 Sword and Axe give exactly the same HP
24 con +3 each +1
200 hp +24 each +1
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:05 AM

I want 5k Robbing Willingness crits qq

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 12:34 PM

Lvl 75 Sword and Axe give exactly the same HP
24 con +3 each +1
200 hp +24 each +1

ah thought I saw 24 con on sword and 20 on axe. idk was late night, I must have looked at another axe. Too many pictures heh
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Posted 21 May 2011 - 03:30 AM

ah thought I saw 24 con on sword and 20 on axe. idk was late night, I must have looked at another axe. Too many pictures heh

making mistakes is human...
but blaming others is even more human, try it :)
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Posted 21 May 2011 - 07:20 AM

Slight analysis change on biskra knuckles, LW knuckles, Robo knuckles, and tyrant knuckles. Bisk knucks are ok, LWs are obsolete with a crit ball and the HP high-end is superior. Check first post.

Working on Axes now. Introduction completed. Axe section done

Edited by Syre, 21 May 2011 - 08:12 AM.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 02:38 AM

I'll be using 1h T axe on my druid ;o
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:08 PM

I'll be using 1h T axe on my druid ;o


lol who are you? The real XRay doesn't play druid.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:56 PM

lol who are you? The real XRay doesn't play druid.

He was a druid , i guess it is his Avenger now.
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#38 Syre

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:54 PM

Will update some things later. Spoke with sady and sword seems okay now. Axe still is slightly better but they are rather similar. Will give screenshots and explain better later. Also new analysis on Control vs Tyrant axe, update later. Ever any questions then just post the up here.

Edited by Syre, 24 May 2011 - 08:10 PM.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:17 PM

S1 Kushy I use for tanking. IDK if you only wanted to include S2 stuff, but meh.
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Liking how this is turning out -_-

Mebbe a little off-topic from the weapons discussion, but I've found the best way to get HP with armour (without going Fascination) is 2 parts 66, 4 parts FOC. Gives an ok amount of crit too.

And unless you're going for very high reinforcement, S1 Guardian of fairy is best shield to go for for HP.


My DPS build would probably be going for as much crit % as possible - either DC knuckles or any axe, and full FOC. Chop chop.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 09:10 PM

I don't like the foc set personally. HP and defense are too low for druid. I have 66 Shoulder, upper, lower, and gloves; I also use pride boots and helm. 43% skill crit rate with hammer and TB shield. 3.1k short range defense and 2.9k long ranged when full buffed and with pet 6k hp. Mirona may give more crit and scad but survivability is too low for me. Defenses drop about 500 and HP 600+. Slowly trying to switch to Pride set which will raise HP a good bit, crit slightly, and scad slightly. Will have to enchant a little defense to make up for the lost. DC knucks don't add any hp, my plan is for the LWs. Druid can't play squishy.

But for full dps build (AA),an axe would be good. If you think about it a druid can match sin dps. Gearing up for this is a new goal for me and it's also fun.
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 02:20 AM

Go full S1 fascination for HP.


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 12:27 PM

if not already postd: move it to Game Resources
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Posted 02 June 2011 - 09:00 PM

umm lol? Why limit the number of pictures I may post? There was no problem with what I was doing. It's a guide ffs :)
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Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:46 PM

umm lol? Why limit the number of pictures I may post? There was no problem with what I was doing. It's a guide ffs :dunno:

you can split the guide into 1st post and 2nd post


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Posted 30 July 2011 - 10:44 PM

thanks, just been too lazy to work on it I suppose
and grats on knuckles
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 08:14 PM

Bump because of being royalty~
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 10:50 PM

Bump because of being royalty~
Needs more detail!


you can add, just msn me parts and I will copy and pa... oh wait
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 03:56 PM

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Can you delete your post and not do this, thanks.
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