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[Sapphic]

Ran around with my homu out and I am no longer stopping every second!! Thanks random KRO fix the GMs weren't aware of!

[Nine]

Double Battle

 

[ShadowBatman]

Azzy for the life of me i cannot get this AI to work, The default AI acts as normal but i type /hoai and it customizes it, Yet when i relog it gives me an error and a long list of problems and i cannot close the error info without Task manager. Any ideas? Most of what i see is regarding const.lua yet there are a few others. Help please? 

[Nine]

^ Pretty much the same problem as rodezja.

 

Sera doesn't have PK or Poison Mist, though.

After about 15 minutes, Sera stands still and refuses to attack. ._.

I updated the old AI, unsure about which version it was, to the new version of the AI today and that's when this started happening. :X

 

^ Same problem as Skarlett

 

Sera doesn't have PK but she has Poison Mist. When a big mob attacks her she doesn't know what to attack and then suddenly stops attacking. Sometimes she goes off screen even when I reduce the StationaryAggroDist.

[DrAzzy]

This problem has proven incredibly hard to fix. Every time I fix one movement problem, another crops up in it's place. Ever since that 9/4 update, I haven't been able to get all elements of movement working simultaneously. 

 

Can you please help out by giving me a trace? 

 

To create a traceai:

1. In RO folder, delete AAIStartH.txt, all AAI_*.log files, and TraceAI.txt 

2. Summon your homun and wait for it to get into the hung state where it's not moving. 

3. Type /traceai. Wait 5-10 seconds. 

4. Type /traceai again

5. zip up TraceAI.txt, AAI_*.log, and AAIStartH.txt from your RO folder, send them to me (upload to your favorite free file hosting site, or pm me for my email address)

 

[Toggles]

I had a similar problem as Nine. I have 2 Seras and one is relatively new, at first I thought it was the non-S skills and low ASPD, but when I turned off my PK-Friends and PK-ASAP, the little bugger stopped freezing and hovering around me and started attacking properly. Now a days I just disable and do manual PKs on the other Sera. 

I'm not sure if this was mentioned in other threads, but whenever I'm in a corner or some kind of 1x1 cell that's back into a wall, my homun doesn't bother doing anything. I even manually set rescue for the mobs during the TI and the bugger won't move. This tends to happen either when I'm backed against a wall or a V like corner so I move up 1 cell until I have a 3 x 3 perimeter around me. Sometimes if a monster spawns directly on my cell, the same thing happens. Is there anyway to fix this?

[DrAzzy]

I could have sworn I fixed that, but looking at my changelogs, I still have it marked as to-do in an unreleased version.

 

That's probable what's causing the problems Skarlet, Nine, and Toggles are experiencing.

 

 

I can fix the problem for cases where the player is surrounded by monsters - but it's a big deal to fix (I remember why I didn't fix it back when I first figured out what was happening now - I need to reimplement all of my movement and targeting code to pass around and react to another flag which will represent the "no standpoint available" case - but the movement and targeting code is already the hardest part of the code to work with), and then I need to make DoAutoBuffs() check for a standpoint before transitioning into provoke_st to PK the owner, and also make provoke_st smart enough to give up if it detects no available standpoint. 

 

Fixing the problem for the case of a wall next to the player requires an entirely different solution, because there is no way for the AI to determine that there's a wall there, except by virtue of it not moving. This also requires added intelligence in provoke_st - but I'm not confident I can come up with a solution that performs acceptably in this situation. 

[Sapphic]

Can I request when you add in Volcanic Ash attack features to add an idle option?

[DrAzzy]

Can I request when you add in Volcanic Ash attack features to add an idle option?

 

What's your use case where this would be useful? The AoE is so small that it won't hit things until they're like right next to you? 

[Sapphic]

WoE!

[tigriss216]

Azzy If at all possible could you put a skin option in the UI?  Black text on white is hard for me IDK why but I can't absorb the info. Been that way all my life.  I can look 20 times and still not find what setting Im looking for.

[DrAzzy]

Azzy If at all possible could you put a skin option in the UI?  Black text on white is hard for me IDK why but I can't absorb the info. Been that way all my life.  I can look 20 times and still not find what setting Im looking for.

 

 

I do not know how to do that. I know very little MSVC# (what the GUI is written in). 

 

You can read the PDF documentation, though - that contains all the same information as the GUI does, often in more detail - assuming you've found a way to comfortably read PDF documents. 

[Kadelia]

I noticed on the korean forum people use azzy ai

[DrAzzy]

Are they happy with it, or are they accusing me of having the programming skills of a 2-year old?

[Kadelia]

I might have to ask charaznable that

[aMoore]

Sorry for asking newbie question. How do I know my current version AzzyAI?

[DrAzzy]

Sorry for asking newbie question. How do I know my current version AzzyAI?

 

The first thing AzzyAI does when homun is summoned is create a file in your RO folder called AAIStartH.txt (AAIStartM.txt for mercs). This contains the version information. If the file is not present, you have never summoned a homun with AzzyAI installed. 

[rienari]

can someone help me with this problem? i don't know why this happen.

 

started when i changed my vanil into sera     

 

 

 

[DrAzzy]

can someone help me with this problem? i don't know why this happen.

 

started when i changed my vanil into sera     

 

 

 

Are you using latest version? Check AAIStartH.txt in your RO folder if not sure. I think that is fixed in latest version.

[Fuuton]

Azzy, i've been meaning to bring something to your attention about homun KSing.

 

I got heavily in depth with a buddy of mine in studying the AI and all of its features. We studied it so hardcore that we figured out how to make our homun achieve exp at the quickest rates possible by adjusting certain options. All that aside, afterwards i started noticing the people who obviously had not taken the time to study the ai. When you've studied it yourself, you can easily see what options people may or may not have active... and the thing i noticed largely about KSing concerns deiters.
 

In the 'Homunculus' tab section of the AzzyAIConfig file, there's an option for Deiters called LavaSlideMode. By default (and by default i mean when you first download and install the files), this option is set to 'attack', which means the Deiter will lay down AoE wherever the largest number of mob currently is on the screen. Whereas, by default, the option for a Sera's PoisonMistMode is set to 'idle', which means the Sera will lay down the AoE at the chemist's feet.

One of the largest problems of KS'ing via homun comes from the fact that not many people take the time to study the options, and Deiters are - by default - set to lay down AoE anywhere, which often leaves a variety of other chemists getting KS'd. You should change the default option of LavaSlideMode to 'idle', just like Sera's p-mist skill. For all the lazy people who never take the time to understand the AI's full potential... at least they wouldn't be KS'ing people right off the bat without even knowing it.

 

I actually came across a deiter user once because he was KS'ing me. When i asked him about whether or not he had dove into studying the ai's config, he admitted he had no idea there even was a section for options. I actually had to explain it to him so he could get it switched up.. he felt real bad about not even knowing his ai was set to KS.

[DrAzzy]

Changing the default setting for LavaSlideMode is already planned for the next version. 

[Fuuton]

oh sweet, good call

[Nine]

I'm noticing my Dieter going off screen more often than usual and stop attacking. I notice that it doesn't even use Blood Lust when idle. Is there a fix for this?

[DrAzzy]

I'm noticing my Dieter going off screen more often than usual and stop attacking. I notice that it doesn't even use Blood Lust when idle. Is there a fix for this?

Are you using latest version? 1.54 and earlier had issues with homun walking off screen. 

 

Also, have you changed the AggroDist or MoveBounds settings? It is recommended to not increase those above the default values. 

 

Regarding use of BloodLust - have you set OldHomunType to Amistr? Otherwise, it will not know that your homun has amistr skills (the AI can only detect vani vs non-vani). Do you have UseOffensiveBuff set to Idle? That controls use of Bloodlust (as well as flitting, mental charge, and - for mercenaries - weapon quicken)

Edited by DrAzzy, 06 June 2014 - 10:42 AM.

[OrcHero]

i wanted to use livemobID for collecting Monster id's for my mercenary.

on both, Homunculus and mercenary i enabled livemobid and logged both ingame, mercenary and Homunculus.

but after a while, i dont see any new Monster id in mercenary tactics. even with starting new the game, there was no new id's.

what i made wrong maybe ?