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[Feuer]

The information below excludes the following from being taken into account
1. Event start/end patches only pertaining to the Event
2. Bug fixes are not considered as I'm looking directly Content in both Game and IM
3. Client updates and post's about Item Mall Sales, Events, Sale and or Event continuation were all not included.
what little info there was on

Years 2005-2006

Spoiler

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v119 11/02/2006 gap due to testing and release multiple client versions, 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v126 12/14/2006 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 12/20/2006 Item mall released

- end year 2006

Years 2006-2007

Spoiler

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v134 02/01/2007 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 02/07/2007 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v137 02/22/2007 90% game content 10% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v138 03/01/2007 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 03/17/2007 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v139 04/05/2007 100% game content

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 notice to ROSE NA 04/12/2007 [if reading correctly this is when Gravity buys contract from TriggerSoft]

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v141 04/19/2007 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 05/23/2007 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v142 06/13/2007 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 07/03/2007 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v144 11/09/2007 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 12/31/2007 100% item mall

- end year 2007

Years 2007-2008

Spoiler

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 01/28/2008 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v145 01/31/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v146 02/06/2008 100% game content v147-148 single bug patch, not notable.
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v150 02/27/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v151 + IM 03/06/2008 87.5% game content 12.5% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v160 05/20/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v161 06/03/2008 85.714% game content 14.286% rounded up item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v163 06/17/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v164 06/24/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v165 07/08/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v166 07/09/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v167 07/15/2008 100% game content

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 07/15/2008 announces ROSE is going free to play on July 29 this year

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v170 07/21/2008 100% game content

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v171 + IM 07/29/2008 87.5% game content 12.5% item mall, ROSE goes to free to play

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v173 08/01/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v174 08/05/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v175 + IM 08/12/2008 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v176 08/19/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v177 + IM 08/26/2008 80% game content 20% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v178 09/09/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 09/10/2008 100$ item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v181 + IM 09/16/2008 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v183 10/21/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v184 + IM 10/24/2008 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v187 + IM 11/04/2008 60% game content 40% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v190 + IM 11/18/2008 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v191 12/02/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v193 + IM 12/16/2008 75% game content 25% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v194 12/18/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=2&start=1 patch note for v195 12/22/2008 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v196 12/23/2008 100% gam content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v197 12/30/2008 100% game content

- end year 2008

Years 2008-2009

Spoiler

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v201 + IM 01/12/2009 80% game content 20% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v203 01/16/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v205 01/27/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 01/27/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v206 + IM 01/28/2009 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v208 + IM 02/06/2009 85.715% game content 14.285% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v209/210 02/06/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 02/24/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v211 03/03/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 03/13/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 03/17/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 04/07/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v216 04/07/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note vor v220 + IM 04/14/2009 85.715% game content 14.285% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v223 04/28/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v224 + IM 05/05/2009 85.715% game content 14.285% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v225 05/12/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v226 + IM 05/19/2009 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v227 / IM 06/08/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v228 + IM 06/16/2009 87.5% game content 12.5% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v229 06/19/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v230 + IM 06/23/2009 75% game contant 25% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v232 + IM 06/30/2009 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=3&start=1 patch nore for IM 06/16/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v234 + IM 07/07/2009 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=2&start=1 patch note for v235 + IM 07/14/2009 75% game content 25% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v236 + IM 07/28/2009 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall [note all back items segregated in list but concidered 1 game content update*]
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 07/31/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 08/11/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 08/11/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=2&start=1 patch note for IM 08/11/2009 100% item mall [not duplicated, there were 3 item mall updates on this day]
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 08/12/2009 100% item mall
- ommit from analysis http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 08/13/2009 [note this was a happy our event but encouraging you buy the double drop medal from item mall, will be ommitted from statistics.]
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 08/14/2009 100% item mall
- ommit from analysis http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 08/18/2009 [once again encouraging users to buy IM points for sale still ommitting from analysis]
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v238 + IM 08/18/2009 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
- note from this point on i'll be ommitting all posts about item mall sales, promotions, and the effect of those, however if it is in a game content patch note i WILL be included as it is an official IM release and not a reminder* of the sale currently going on.
- also any posts regarding updates to the game client to add in event only items have been and wil continue to be ommitted from the analysis. aswell as single bug fix posts have been / will be not included
http://forums.roseon...posts=2&start=1 patch note for IM 09/01/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM[v243] 09/15/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 09/18/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 09/22/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v244 + IM 09/29/2009 1% game content 99% item mall [staticstically more so 100% item mall as only 1 item ingame was changed in value]
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 10/02/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v247 + IM 10/20/2009 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v248 10/28/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v249 11/03/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v250 11/04/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 11/17/2009 100% item mall
note another promotion to encourage spending in the item mall http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for v252 11/18/2009 75% game content 25% item mall
- note from 11/18/2009 to 12/18/2009 there were 8! item mall promotions to entice more spending. must be christmas?
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v253 12/22/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch nore for IM 12/22/2009 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v254 12/23/2009 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v255 12/29/2009 50% game content 50% item mall

- end year 2009 [year of the item mall]

Years 2009-2010

Spoiler

http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v257 + IM 01/05/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v258 01/12/2010 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v259 01/19/2010 100% game contant
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v260 + IM 01/26/2010 33.3% game content 66.6% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=2&start=1 patch note for v261 02/04/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v262 + IM 02/11/2010 90% game content 10% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v264 + IM 02/12/2010 75% game content 25% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v265 + IM 02/18/2010 75% game content 25% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v266 02/25/2010 100% game content
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v267 + IM 03/04/2010 90% game content 10% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v268 + IM 03/07/2010 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v269 + IM 03/11/2010 90% game content 10% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 03/15/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v270 + IM 03/18/2010 85.715% game content 14.285% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v271 + IM 03/25/2010 87.5% game content 12.5% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v272 + IM 04/01/2010 81.82% game content 18.18% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v273 + IM 04/08/2010 88.89% game content 11.11% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v274 + IM 04/15/2010 85.715% game content 14.285% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 04/21/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v275 + IM 04/22/2010 87.5% game content 12.5% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v278 + IM 04/29/2010 83.34% game content 16.66% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 05/06/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v280 + IM 05/13/2010 80% game content 20% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v281 + IM 05/20/2010 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v282 + IM 05/27/2010 75% game content 25% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v284 + IM 06/03/2010 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 06/10/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 06/24/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for IM 07/12/2010 100% item mall
http://forums.roseon...posts=1&start=1 patch note for v294 + IM 07/21/2010 33.3% game content 66.6% item mall

end of patch list availability

Year 2011

Spoiler

http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v323/ patch note for v323 + IM 01/20/2011 80% game content 20% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v325/ patch note for v325 + IM 02/12/2011 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v326/ patch note for v326 02/18/2011 100% game content
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v331/ patch note for v331 + IM 03/25/2011 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v332/ patch note for v332 + IM 03/31/2011 80% game content 20% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v333/ patch note for v333 + IM 04/14/2011 66.6% game content 66.6% item mall [one of the 3 updates pertained to both game and item mall]
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v334/ patch note for v334 + IM 04/22/2011 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v335/ patch note for v335 + IM 04/28/2011 71.43% game content 28.57% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v336/ patch note for v336 + IM 05/06/2011 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v338/ patch note for v338 + IM 05/12/2011 66.6% game content 33.3% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v339/ patch note for v339 IM 05/19/2011 100% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v340/ patch nore for v340 IM 05/26/2011 100% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v342/ patch note for v342 + IM 06/22/2011 50% game content 50% item mall
http://forums.warppo...tch-notes-v344/ patch nore for v344 IM 06/29/2011 100% item mall
end of current year

So here's the statistics after I've reviewed everything

Year 2006-2007 :12 total updates with content and not pertaining to Bugs, and Events.
Game content patches : 7 patches included Game Content [58.33%]
Item Mall Patches : 6 patches included Item Mall [50.00%]

Year 2007-2008 :32 total updates with content and not pertaining to Bugs, and Events.
Game content patches : 30 patches included Game Content [93.75%]
Item Mall Patches : 11 patches included Item Mall [34.38%]

Year 2008-2009 :50 total updates with content and not pertaining to Bugs, and Events.
Game content patches : 30 patches included Game Content [60.00%]
Item Mall Patches : 37 patches included Item Mall [74.00%]

Year 2009-2010 [ending on 07/21/2010] 29 total updates with content and not pertaining stricly to Bugs, and Event.
Game Content Patches : 22 patches included Game content [75.86%]
Item Mall Patches : 27 patches included Item Mall [93.10%]

Year 2011 :14 total updates with content and not pertaining to Bugs, adn Events
game content patches :11 patches include Game Content [78.57%]
item mall patches :13 patches include Item Mall Content [92.85%]

So next time someone says to me that Theres enough content just think I havnt included the last YEAR worth of updates and EVERYONE knows that its been an IM-fest for this last year.


Also I'm going through and deleting all of my item submission threads, If i felt like designing items to be told they're impossible because they dont fit, and a couple months/weeks later see decepticon suits, its pointless. Id rather send them elsewhere where i'll get recognition for my efforts, and be rewarded be having a part of my work in a game.
Not something close, or inspired by, my design.

Btw this did take 4 hours to put together, read the update notes, and organise neatly, i sincerely want this game to flourish and not end up a stick in the mud. and +1 if you got um cause this was mind boggling xD

Edited by Feuer, 08 July 2011 - 07:14 PM.

[DoubleRose]

Interesting.

[iRon]

2007-2008 whas a pretty good year actually
but 2010-2011 O MY
INSANE MANY IM

Edited by iRon, 08 July 2011 - 05:15 AM.

[bluehell]

Looks like item mall mainly started around the area of when the stock market crashed in the U.S.

[Feuer]

Yes i can't imagine the amount of IM patch note's i'd find except they dont stick around, they get stickied, then removed. I don't have access to them or I would have finished this report all the way up to this last tuesdays update. I'm rather disturbed to think of what the 2010-2011 table would look like. Especially after seeing that year 2009-2010 was continueing on a 93% IM patch rate.

[Dusk1PS]

Feuer, there is a patch notes archive thread. It has the most recent updates of patches for 2010 - 2011.

Amazing work you have done here.

[Feuer]

Hmm ty Dusk ill look for those in a bit and see if i cant update this even more, I was concidering making an actual chart to visual display the info more clearly.

edit

i found it, Ill start the updating in a minute after a cig, this should be another good 30-40mins of work

also noticed and unfortunately it is, is that the remainder of the 2010 calender year is lost, so that data will be inconclusive or just remain based on the 7 months of notes i have

Edited by Feuer, 08 July 2011 - 05:36 AM.

[maldini]

well done! i hope they will listen to u!

[Dusk1PS]

Yeah I understand.

I posted ASAP before any more potential data would be lost from new patches.

[Feuer]

Updated with this years data added to the list.

[DestinyDeoxys]

Good job good job I like to read summary, there would be one day that they finally run out of item mall ideas that they only will have to make costumes to make money which is what we wanted, we still have durability repair hammer, gem protection rune, invisible back item yet to come.

But to be honest, nothing lives forever, and we are not allowed to discuss the life span of ROSE, right now Draconis is a good example we can look at...

[CaNehDa]

gem protection rune.

Dammit, I been thinking of what to name it when I put the suggestion into suggestions, and you hit the nail on the hammer with a sarcastic comment


(/sarcarsum, kinda)

[Phish]

Ah that must have been time consuming to gather that information. But I'm not surprised (90%+ IM related updates is just excessive).

[Hitman2506]

dont feel like reading all of those

[ChickenBucket]

this pretty sums it all up = gravity greedy basturds.

[Icrafttofu]

seeing this and also a lot of free loaders who have never even paid a single penny towards monthly subscriptions. The main reason why there was a huge boost in item mall items through out the last 2 years is because of the fact that, the item mall is their only source if income. Also, seeing most of the faces around lately, I bet 95% of the people complaining in this thread or 95% of the rose population would quit if they were charged a monthly subscription.

[LadyPsyber]

seeing this and also a lot of free loaders who have never even paid a single penny towards monthly subscriptions. The main reason why there was a huge boost in item mall items through out the last 2 years is because of the fact that, the item mall is their only source if income. Also, seeing most of the faces around lately, I bet 95% of the people complaining in this thread or 95% of the rose population would quit if they were charged a monthly subscription.

Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Take a look around town, people are buying the low quality item mall CRAP just as fast as the developers can churn it out. A TON of people buy item mall points second hand with zulie as well...the 93% item mall content also is comprised of much bigger updates. The free content changes for the most part are tiny compared to the item mall ones that we get every other week. The last significant free content added to this game was epic weapons what 5 months ago? Epic weapons that are so hard to get now that most people don't even try to get them. Every other "update" has been reused content from before. I wonder if his stats take reused content into consideration?

Year 2009-2010 [ending on 07/21/2010] 29 total updates with content and not pertaining stricly to Bugs, and Event.
Game Content Patches : 22 patches included Game content [75.86%]
Item Mall Patches : 27 patches included Item Mall [93.10%]

Year 2011 :14 total updates with content and not pertaining to Bugs, adn Events
game content patches :11 patches include Game Content [78.57%]
item mall patches :13 patches include Item Mall Content [92.85%]

So next time someone says to me that Theres enough content just think I havnt included the last YEAR worth of updates and EVERYONE knows that its been an IM-fest for this last year.
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Btw this did take 4 hours to put together, read the update notes, and organise neatly, i sincerely want this game to flourish and not end up a stick in the mud. and +1 if you got um cause this was mind boggling xD

Now you know why i'm ranting like crazy about it...93% item mall? Are you KIDDING me?

That's right rose developers...your "free rose ninja content team" doesn't seem to be doing much free rose content. Maybe they're union rose content programmers and as such do not need to program nearly as much as the non union item mall content programmers?

Edited by LadyPsyber, 08 July 2011 - 02:02 PM.

[iRon]

seeing this and also a lot of free loaders who have never even paid a single penny towards monthly subscriptions. The main reason why there was a huge boost in item mall items through out the last 2 years is because of the fact that, the item mall is their only source if income. Also, seeing most of the faces around lately, I bet 95% of the people complaining in this thread or 95% of the rose population would quit if they were charged a monthly subscription.

you're a little bit right.
if the game gets pay2play again alot of people would quit.
all of the IM money is there source of money.
but only making new item mall items is not a good idea.
i'm sure that the development can fix buxs aswell.

This is why there is to much IM !!
the most important about there income is IM
so they need to make money with that.
not many people are playing R.O.S.E evolution
that's why they need more money to keep this game running.
The same people will buy COOL IM stuff every time.
they seriously need to make more campaign and commercials of R.O.S.E (i do not mean TV commercials)
they need to promote it .. so people will try this game and probably like it.
so more people would pay for IM. and developers don't have to make to much IM stuff.


(i understand if you don't get this with what i'm saying) im from holland so explaining is pretty hard for me xD

Edited by iRon, 08 July 2011 - 02:01 PM.

[Feuer]

...I wonder if his stats take reused content into consideration?[/size][/b]

Yes I did take into account updates to content already existing, and revamped/edited content already existing, this consisted of roughly 68% of the total updates for game content i read.

As for IM being the only source of income you are right and wrong at the same time

IM is the main source, where as they also had received monthly subscriptions from the Gravity Companies ownership of Ragnarok until recently. ALL of the money Gravity makes in whole from all game titles is divied among all of the game teams developers and staff. ROSE only makes up part of this income.

Also with the ability for users to take surveys for IM/WarpPortal points, they make more profit then you'd initially comprehend. They're not dumb, they're lazy, but they are making money, and good money at that.
Heres a post where Gravity was promoting a position of employment for their staff.
Benefits include
competitive salaries typically meaning not minimum wage [they're based in California Bay Area where minimum wage is 8.00/hour]
Dental
Health insurance,
Paid Vacation,
Sick and Personal days,
Term Life Insurance,
Disability Insurance,
401K,
advancement opportunities and much more.

I didn't even get these types of benefits working FOR A PHARMACY!

you tell me they don't/didn't already make enough money..

Good job good job I like to read summary, there would be one day that they finally run out of item mall ideas that they only will have to make costumes to make money which is what we wanted, we still have durability repair hammer, gem protection rune, invisible back item yet to come.

But to be honest, nothing lives forever, and we are not allowed to discuss the life span of ROSE, right now Draconis is a good example we can look at...

that I believe is a terrible rule seeing as it's our personal concern over a game some of us pay to play. However this topic isn't at allabout the life span of ROSE, its about the content they've provided since it's been alive*

Edited by Feuer, 08 July 2011 - 06:20 PM.

[yamz]

I hope they will listen to this or shall atleast read this

[twitch]

bet there all thinking "There on to us!"

[bluehell]

I guarentee that zeppelin will not post in this thread.

(maybe this will make him prove me wrong!)


(Not! The devs hide from anything against them)


*Hides*

[Feuer]

I guarantee they won't post on either mine for LP's thread about this, the only person who might* post are the moderators telling us how every statement we've made was ill composed and contained no factuality, and that we're just upset. Even might go as far as to say there's no problem with the way things are, could you expect anything less from the team tho?

They can hide, but they can't run from the fact that a huge portion of the community is very agitated, people have indeed left ROSE, and will continue to do so until there's only a shred of the original thriving populous they had prior to these pointless autobot updates.
[note i used autobot update and its just the latest evidence in an ongoing series of events that lead to this point, it neither is the "straw that broke the camels back" for myself or is in anyway the "entire" reason why these post's are being made]

There's clearly a problem, if there wasn;t this wouldn't be such a huge deal, it'd be a few people upset that they don't have money to buy the IM CRAP that's been being released.

seeing this and also a lot of free loaders who have never even paid a single penny towards monthly subscriptions. The main reason why there was a huge boost in item mall items through out the last 2 years is because of the fact that, the item mall is their only source if income. Also, seeing most of the faces around lately, I bet 95% of the people complaining in this thread or 95% of the rose population would quit if they were charged a monthly subscription.

I have paid a monthly subscrip for this game, and back then it was worth it. Today, i wouldn't pay for it at all. Not with this type of behavior, the community in a fluster and game content updates at best are bug fixes and revamping.

Edited by Feuer, 08 July 2011 - 07:20 PM.

[Feuer]

On second thought id much appreciate to hear how the development team thinks about this subject, even if it's vague I just want to know they see this and have something in the works to calm the mood, I truly love this game as I've played it since I started online gaming. I don't want to see it fizzle..

[Lybis]

Wow this must of taken some time to put together but now you have put it like this it makes me look at this game totally different. I knew alot of the patches contained IM but its amazing to see how over the years its just got more ridiculous!