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[Akamizu]

like the tittle says.. i wanna talk about that hat...
uhmm.. do anyone here know how many % to proc that hat at +7...?
cuz when i do TI with my ranger and using that the proc just like 1% or maybe less...
my TI count 400/400 that hat proc just do 9th times,,
i already tested using that hat at ET too... but, still really low chance...
what a lame..

Edited by Akamizu, 21 October 2012 - 01:30 AM.

[Facekiller]

proc rate for HP is 3% when doing/receiving physical attack, proc rate for SP is 3% for doing/receiving Magic attacks...

[krossfire]

question about the drain part, in pvp how much does it drain against people?

Edited by krossfire, 21 October 2012 - 07:14 AM.

[xFireize]

proc rate for HP is 3% when doing/receiving physical attack, proc rate for SP is 3% for doing/receiving Magic attacks...

That's the official release. You can't really trust that. Gotta test it yourself.

IMO, it's less than 3%. My meteor storm from Violet Fear procs a lot more.

With 193 aspd, the hat is still not impressive. :S

[Facekiller]

ive got 11of them in storage right now hope they become tradeable...

[xFireize]

ive got 11of them in storage right now hope they become tradeable...

Do you even think it's useful?

[Facekiller]

from past experience ive learned grab as many event hats as possible.... at some point they will become valuable to somebody... look at the witches pumpkin hats fro last year... useless without one of the masks but people are still willing to pay pretty good for one...

[xFireize]

Is that a no?

I am just trying to figure if the hat actually procs at 3% rate or not; because from my testing, it's way way way lower than 3%.

Edited by xFireize, 21 October 2012 - 11:10 AM.

[nedric]

Is that a no?

I am just trying to figure if the hat actually procs at 3% rate or not; because from my testing, it's way way way lower than 3%.

for me its like 0.5%~1%

[Facekiller]

its supposed to be 3% but im not sure hat the actual rate is... it procs ok for me... the SP proc is a bit ridiculous tho... having to spam magic just to get SP back... if anything it should be a higher rate than the HP restore... you dont need to use HP to get the HP proc but you DO have to use SP to get the SP proc...

[xFireize]

This is a 10 mins ragnarok replay showing the performance of the hat on an 193 ASPD RK:
http://dl.dropbox.co...adowHatTest.rrf

As you can see my meteor storm procs more often than the hat effect, even if I auto-cast tons of magic skills which should trigger the "trick or treat?" for SP. The hat effect is indicated by an effect similar as using a berserk potion. The hat is +7.
I did not use white pots or blue pots in the middle of combats.

BTW, I am surprised that you can't rewind the video or click on a specific time frame in this ragnarok replay feature. That's pretty dumb. No wonder people still rather use video capture software.

Edited by xFireize, 21 October 2012 - 12:39 PM.

[falkenjeff]

BTW, I am surprised that you can't rewind the video or click on a specific time frame in this ragnarok replay feature. That's pretty dumb. No wonder people still rather use video capture software.

you could video capture the replay file so your performance doesnt take a hit while you're actually playing the game

[SonicRain]

It's a halloween event, this hat should do something even without +4, +7, or any kind of upgrade, look at it this way other hats have been quite useful in other holiday events and so this one should be as well.

I'm using this hat on just a lowbie character and everytime I see treat, trick, it basically does nothing, I mean literally nothing, non upgraded is rather useless and that's kind've a disappointment.

Edit: Example, http://irowiki.org/w...Christmas_Event A very useful headgear that needs no upgrades and can do something for low level characters and high level characters, 1,000 Carrots for 15k Zeny is pretty grand in my opinion.

Edited by SonicRain, 21 October 2012 - 07:27 PM.

[Facekiller]

the fact that you gotta spam magic constantly just to get a lil sp back seems pointless as well... like watching softcore porn

[SonicRain]

I believe almost anyone can think up a good effect for this hat, and I believe it should changed to hat instead of helm if we want to be technical a helm is generally something that goes over your whole head if not half of it.

[xFireize]

It's a halloween event, this hat should do something even without +4, +7, or any kind of upgrade, look at it this way other hats have been quite useful in other holiday events and so this one should be as well.

I'm using this hat on just a lowbie character and everytime I see treat, trick, it basically does nothing, I mean literally nothing, non upgraded is rather useless and that's kind've a disappointment.

Edit: Example, http://irowiki.org/w...Christmas_Event A very useful headgear that needs no upgrades and can do something for low level characters and high level characters, 1,000 Carrots for 15k Zeny is pretty grand in my opinion.

I still like +10% ATK & MATK bonus of the helm. If the proc rate stayed like that after the bonus has been taken, the hat would become a garbage tho.

I mean.. 193 ASPD and the hat still doesn't show an impressive performance.

[SonicRain]

I still like +10% ATK & MATK bonus of the helm. If the proc rate stayed like that after the bonus has been taken, the hat would become a garbage tho.

I mean.. 193 ASPD and the hat still doesn't show an impressive performance.

Yeah I forgot about that but you can't really consider that because that will be leaving as far as we know.

[Riakuta]

I would like to know how the Shadowmancer's Hat works with a Royal Guard Shield Reflect, Elemental Sword, & or CD in Mouth.

[Messi101010]

definitely not 3%...im sure..its much less than that

[Facekiller]

maybe they messedup the decimal point like they did originally with the CD in mouth proc and its set to .3% proc rate

[SonicRain]

Okay so we've established the proc rate is extremely low, now how about the numbers? what's the heal/drain numbers for health and SP.

Because it does nothing for my low level character with no upgrades.

Edited by SonicRain, 21 October 2012 - 08:34 PM.

[Facekiller]

its supposed to be a % of total health
sp is gained by magic attacks only and Hp is from physical attacks

[SonicRain]

Yeah okay so it heals a % of your max health, what's the original % if the +7 upgrade is "HP/SP Heal further increases +10%" what is the total if it's +7?

[xFireize]

I am guessing it's 5%.

[SonicRain]

Okay so you are attacking a monster with it and it's not upgraded, you get treat while doing physical attacks it should heal you 5% of your max health? So far that's the information I've gathered.

Edited by SonicRain, 22 October 2012 - 06:41 AM.