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#1 Zayaan

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Posted 29 August 2024 - 12:28 AM

WL_RELEASE has a customized cooldown of 1 second on iRO. It came about from it being possible to skip casting WL_READING_SB prior to WL_RELEASE via packet injection and was added around 2013 due to exploitation in PVP/WoE. 

 

1) Major changes have been made to WL_READING_SB since then and reading books via packet injection hasn't been possible for many years

2) Even with the cooldown removed endgame/PVP players have little if any incentive to use WL_RELEASE 

 

Given these two points, the cooldown is completely pointless and only hurts new players, and should be updated to match other official servers.

 

Cooldown information obtained from replay analyzer,


iRO:
HEADER_ZC_SKILL_POSTDELAY
{
  "Skid": 2230,
  "Delaytm": 1000
}

kRO & thRO:

HEADER_ZC_SKILL_POSTDELAY is not present after casting Release

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Posted 29 August 2024 - 12:31 AM

Thanks for the explanation of exactly why the cooldown exists (and why it obviously shouldn't!).


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#3 LilVip88

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Posted 29 August 2024 - 06:01 AM

Please, fix this too!! This issue really affect warlock players, especially new players x.x Players have been addressing this before, but I hope GM team can fix it, as well!!
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#4 Boyeteers

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Posted 29 August 2024 - 03:07 PM

Ppls wanna know if DK’s db delay got fixed cuz DKs need sum love too bruv feel me?
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Posted 29 August 2024 - 03:43 PM

 

WL_RELEASE has a customized cooldown of 1 second on iRO. It came about from it being possible to skip casting WL_READING_SB prior to WL_RELEASE via packet injection and was added around 2013 due to exploitation in PVP/WoE. 

 

1) Major changes have been made to WL_READING_SB since then and reading books via packet injection hasn't been possible for many years

2) Even with the cooldown removed endgame/PVP players have little if any incentive to use WL_RELEASE 

 

Given these two points, the cooldown is completely pointless and only hurts new players, and should be updated to match other official servers.

 

Cooldown information obtained from replay analyzer,


iRO:
HEADER_ZC_SKILL_POSTDELAY
{
  "Skid": 2230,
  "Delaytm": 1000
}

kRO & thRO:

HEADER_ZC_SKILL_POSTDELAY is not present after casting Release

 

Is it possible to get the same for Spore Explosion for Genetics? (Cooldown on hitting information) Had already submitted a support ticket thats escalated to the team. It was fixed at some point during the latest skills rework, and then reverted back to having a delay upon hitting the mob.


Edited by Kedoxu, 29 August 2024 - 03:44 PM.

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#6 IROBeelzebub

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Posted 04 September 2024 - 11:55 PM

Hello

GM Beelzebub here,
is there any link for this issue in 2013 ?
We need this information to fix/revert this

Thank you


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Posted 05 September 2024 - 12:32 AM

Hello

GM Beelzebub here,
is there any link for this issue in 2013 ?
We need this information to fix/revert this

Thank you

 

Sorry to hijack this thread but I hope you can also look into this topic.


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#8 KriticalAssassin

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Posted 05 September 2024 - 12:38 AM

Hello

GM Beelzebub here,
is there any link for this issue in 2013 ?
We need this information to fix/revert this

Thank you

https://forums.warpp...lease cooldown


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#9 Zayaan

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Posted 05 September 2024 - 01:40 AM

Hello

GM Beelzebub here,
is there any link for this issue in 2013 ?
We need this information to fix/revert this

Thank you

 

See KriticalAssassin's link. Additionally, since the change was done by the iRO team and not kRO, it was most likely a modification of SkillSpecial.sc

SetSkill WL_RELEASE
OnInit:
	SkillSinglePostDelay	    1000 1000
return

Edited by Zayaan, 05 September 2024 - 01:41 AM.

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