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[IronPlushy]

So I have a 99 female ninja that I'm prepping for Oberou. Assuming Oberou are magic based I had a few questions about her gear.

1. First I made my ninja VIT build not AGI build, with rudolph hairband she has excellent survivability. Assuming I do everything PvP/MvP/PvE/WoE, which shield should I use? I already have the advanced arm guard though I know I should slot it. Should I give up the 5 mdef for the silver guard or just get the slotted advanced guard? I could never afford a valk shield. And where do I get an immune shield?

2. Just confirming a belief, I'm desperately trying to obtain a ninja suit, I'm assuming that 20% sp usage reduction will be amazing for oberous? Can anyone sell me a spare?

3.How does Matk influence the unique magic effects of the Oberou? I can't really afford a bazerald so I'm really stuck with the eden dagger. Are there any recommended gears that are affordable that boost Matk assuming matk helps Oberous?

4.Eden Manteau seems pretty good, 10% neutral tolerance. Maybe I should try to gather the morpheus set?

5.WTF is up with shoes? are there any good ones?

6.Still need a phen card, can card it into my brooch though :3. Until then, any gear recommendations.

I found that guide largely useless as the only gear recommendations were on daggers

[Xallista]

If you want to even be dealing enough dmg to kill stuff past 100, I would think that you would need to dual-wield matk daggers after the expansion comes out (in PVM at least). To be honest, your best bet for matk would be the unslotted RWC pendant with 2 +9 RWC daggers, as those 3 items alone would get you +390 matk, and if the pendant is enchanted with double spell 3, 414 matk. For your budget, you'll likely have to do with eden dagger III and II though. That gets you +150 matk, but its likely that your kunai skills will do more dmg still (including the oboro ones). Of course, seeing that oboros have access to a matk increase buff, if the boost is good enough your spells might start to out-dmg the kunai ones.

When the update comes we should get more matk daggers to choose from though, so you could look forward to those.

Edited by Xallista, 02 January 2013 - 10:10 PM.

[LethalJokeChar]

That's interesting. What does RWC stand for? Currently I just have a ton of unupgraded ancient daggers to try and get 2 as high as I can when I finally get the chance to upgrade them...

[Facekiller]

we will be getting new daggers with the expansion which are basicly slotted bazeralds tho for starting off if you can get them spell enchanted bazeralds will work wonders... shield wise you cant beat the valk shield, shoes wise for PVM your best bet are gonna be Battle Greeves [1] from the battlegrounds... i have an unslotted ninja suit i can sell you for 500k or a +4unfrozen ninja suit ill sell for 5 mil... garment wise aim for arch angel wings [1] with a spell enchant... without access to phen over upgrade a huuma calm mind shuriken (it makes all skill casting uninteruptable) tho a phen should be gotten is available... slotted advanced arm guards are better than the siver guard since magic is way more of a threat to ninja than actual physical damage... personally for PVM i use Arch Angel wings, Glittering jacket (better Mdef than ninja suit and causes blind when attacking or defending), battle greeves, valk shield (valk is generally cheaper than immune shield), +7damascus[2], +6Bazerald spell 2 spell 3, triple malicious +7gladius, +7 huuma blaze... i switch gears in both pvp and pvm as needed... im a magic, kunai, KS hybrid... pre kagerou ninja killer build...

[IronPlushy]

Oh please sell me that ninja suit I'll gladly pay. Just spent 2 hours hunting munak to get 5 adventurer suits and a bongun card

[Facekiller]

the unslotted one? Im in Payon currently near the eden group chick... IGN: Okami Maru

[IronPlushy]

This just got awesome, have huuma calm mind and ninja suit, was a good day for ninjas

[Xallista]

That's interesting. What does RWC stand for? Currently I just have a ton of unupgraded ancient daggers to try and get 2 as high as I can when I finally get the chance to upgrade them...

Check the cash shop or play vends. They'll be leaving on next week's maintenance tho, so if you want to get them, best to get them quick. That or to wait for this year's RWC sets (if any).

[Facekiller]

heres some info on K/O gears i dug up...


(2171)
Fox inscribed Armguard [1]
Armguard inscribed with fox symbol that makes the wearer feel agile.
Flee +5
Class: Shield
DEF: 45
Weight: 20
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(2172)
Wolf inscribed Armguard [1]
Armguard inscribed with wolf symbol that strengthens the wearer.
Chance on physical attack, ATK +100, FLEE -50 for 5 seconds.
Class: Shield
DEF: 70
Weight: 25
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn Ninja classes

(2173)
Crescent Moon Inscribed Armguard [1]
Armguard inscribed with crescent moon symbol that makes the wearer feel magically empowered.
- 2% After Cast Delay for every upgrade.
Class: Shield
DEF: 45
Weight: 25
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(6493)
Makibishi
Sharp, metal spike that causes considerable pain when stepped on. Mainly used as an emergency tool to hinder chasing enemies.
Weight: 0.1

(6512)
Fire Talisman
Ninjas are commonly seen carrying around these talisman for protection. Advanced ninjas can use the talisman to perform various magic skills.
Weight: 0.1

(6513)
Ice Talisman
Ninjas are commonly seen carrying around these talisman for protection. Advanced ninjas can use the talisman to perform various magic skills.
Weight: 0.1

(6514)
Wind Talisman
Ninjas are commonly seen carrying around these talisman for protection. Advanced ninjas can use the talisman to perform various magic skills.
Weight: 0.1

(6515)
Earth Talisman
Ninjas are commonly seen carrying around these talisman for protection. Advanced ninjas can use the talisman to perform various magic skills.
Weight: 0.1

(13074)
Prototype Ninja Dagger
Cannot be traded.
Prototype ninja dagger in the process of being developed by the Ninja Association. It's not yet ready for mass production.
Class: Dagger
ATK: 0
Weight: 0
Weapon Level: 4
Required Level: 99
Can only be worn by Ninja classes.

(13075)
Kurenai [1]
Red dagger created by the Ninja Association, named after its magnificent color.
INT +3
Class: Dagger
ATK: 130
Weight: 70
Weapon Level: 3
Required Level: 99
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13076)
Kodachi[1]
Mainly used by advanced Ninjas. This weapon is much stronger than Asura.
INT +3, MATK +100
Class: Dagger
ATK: 120
Weight: 60
Weapon Level: 3
Required Level: 110
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13078)
Mikazuki [1]
Dagger with its name meaning crescent moon. This weapon is imbued with the light from Crescent Moon, empowering the wearer with magic powers.
MATK +120
Reduces SP Cost and Variable Cast time of skills by 5%.
Class: Dagger
ATK: 50
Weight: 60
Weapon Level: 4
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

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Explosive Kunai
Volatile powder is stored within the Kunai, causing it to explode on impact. Requires extreme caution!
Class: Throwing Weapon
ATK: 50
Weight: 3
Element: Neutral
Required Level: 100

(13311)
Advanced Fuuma Shuriken [1]
Newly created product from Ninja Association. This weapon is created with special material that prevents moonlight from reflecting from the weapon.
STR +3
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 170
Weight: 150
Weapon Level: 3
Required Level: 99
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13312)
Prototype Fuuma Shuriken
Cannot be traded.
Prototype fuuma shuriken in the process of being developed by the Ninja Association. It's not yet ready for mass production.
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 0
Weight: 300
Weapon Level: 4
Required Level: 99
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13313)
Flower-Petal Fuuma Shuriken [2]
Fuuma Shuriken that is nicknamed as "Fluttering Flower-leaves". It feels as if countless flower leaves are surrounding the wearer.
MATK +50
Flower-Petal Fuuma Shuriken skill damage +20%
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 150
Weight: 150
Weapon Level: 3
Required Level: 110
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13314)
Ice-Petal Fuuma Shuriken
Water Element Fuuma Shuriken. Causes snow petals to fall on attack.
MATK +50
Chance on melee attack, activates Crystal Rock Level 1 (or highest level learned)
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 200
Weight: 150
Element: Water
Weapon Level: 4
Required Level: 110
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13315)
Storm Fuuma Shuriken
Wind Element Fuuma Shuriken. Causes rainstorm on attack.
MATK +50
Chance on melee attack, causes Blind and activates Thunder Level 1 (or highest level learned)
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 200
Weight: 150
Element: Wind
Weapon Level: 4
Required Level: 110
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(13316)
Reinforced Fuuma Shuriken [1]
Fuuma Shuriken coated with Oridecon and Gold.
Cannot be destroyed.
ATK +10/MATK +5, ranged physical damage +1% for every upgrade.
If above level 70, ATK +5 for every 10 levels above 70.
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 55
Weight: 150
Weapon Level: 3
Required Level: 1
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(15053)
Special Ninja Suit
This ninja suit is an improved version of Ninja Suit, created by experienced Ninjas. This armor feels light with special fibers.
AGI +1. AGI +1 for ever 3 upgrades
If worn with Fox Inscribed Armguard, AGI +2.
Class: Armor
DEF: 70
Weight: 120
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(15054)
Ninja Scale Armor [1]
Formally worn by a high ranking ninja. This armor specializes in Melee combat.
Max HP +15%, Max SP -30%.
If worn with Wolf Inscribed Armguard, ATK +10%, STR +2
Class: Armor
DEF: 90
Weight: 180
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(15055)
Special Alloy Armor [1]
Created to protect High Ranking ninjas from assassination. This armor specializes in Melee combat.
AGI +1
Chance to activate Body Swap Level 1 when receiving physical damage.
If worn with Crescent Moon inscribed Armguard, Perfect Dodge +10, Flee +10.
Class: Armor
DEF: 60
Weight: 150
Required Level: 100
Can be worn by Ninja classes

(15056)
Special Ninja Suit [1]
This ninja suit is an improved version of Ninja Suit, created by experienced Ninjas. This armor feels light with special fibers.
AGI +1. AGI +1 for ever 3 upgrades
If worn with Fox Inscribed Armguard, AGI +2.
Class: Armor
DEF: 70
Weight: 120
Required Level: 100
Can only be worn by Ninja classes

(17155)
Reinforced Fuuma Shuriken Box
Cannot be traded.
Contains 1 Reinforced Fuuma Shuriken.
Fuuma Shuriken coated with Oridecon and Gold.
Cannot be destroyed.
ATK +10/MATK +5, ranged physical damage +1% for every upgrade.
If above level 70, ATK +5 for every 10 levels above 70.
Class: Fuuma Shuriken
ATK: 55
Weight: 150
Weapon Level: 3
Required Level: 1
Can only be worn by Ninja classes
Cannot be refunded when opened.
Weight: 1

[ashS1]

if only it had kunai/shuriken that dealt holy/shadow damage..

[Facekiller]

if we can use one handed swords like were supposed to with K/O then an Excalibur will give your shuriken holy property... and the kuhkri will give your shuriken shadow property now... shuriken transfer element from base weapons...

[Xallista]

I thought that they had patched K/O such that weapon element no longer affect kunai skills? At least for explosive kunai. Previously you could endow explosive kunai with the 4 elemental sphere buffs in K/O skill tree, but they removed that so people could no longer deal elemental dmg with explosive kunai. So that makes the elemental spheres purely a buff to the ninja magic dmg (+10% total magic dmg per sphere for the corresponding element, up to 100% which is essentially double dmg), although the earth spheres supposedly gives 10% equipment atk/def per sphere.

At least this was what I gathered from the irowiki forum.

[Facekiller]

dunno bout the explosive kunai... regular kunai has its own element... shuriken however adopts the element of the base weapon

[Xallista]

Do people even use shurikens anymore?

Anyway, all I know about explosive kunai is that it is neutral and is not an ammo type, so you can't equip it.

[Facekiller]

that will be helpful for not having to switch back and forth from regular to explosive kunai...

[Xallista]

Yea but it also means you can't make it elemental from what I know, so no more 80k explosive kunai aoe in scarab hall...

[Facekiller]

ive never really liked the idea of one shot kills for every monster... makes my mind feel numb spamming the same one or 2 skills over and over... thats why im a hybrid to begin with...

[Xallista]

At least magic K/O would become viable with the elemental spheres. Although in terms of magic atk, nothing comes close to beating dual +9/12 RWC daggers + pendant...

I heard that Izayoi was nerfed though, originally gave +250matk on top of the fixed/variable cast time reduction. Not sure how much it adds now.

Edited by Xallista, 05 January 2013 - 09:28 PM.

[Facekiller]

this is alot of speculation still since iro and kro like to vary for no real reason

[Xallista]

I don't think core mechanics are varied between the 2 versions though. Its not like we're some private server that adjusts skills as we please, we do follow what kro gives us. The custom stuff have not actually affected core skills much.

[Facekiller]

skills wont really be changed much but we may get alterations to K/O gears and weapon availability...

[Xallista]

RWC dagger + pendant/ring beats most other options yea, although double quad AS carded daggers might do better...