142 replies to this topic

[DrAzzy]

Imo, only worth it if doing valk

[Havenn]

I first made a breakable holy armor, if you plan to solo valk it's pretty annoying. holy valk armor is a lot less messy

and yea it's mainly for valks

Edited by Havenn, 19 May 2013 - 07:30 AM.

[sb120495]

I first made a breakable holy armor, if you plan to solo valk it's pretty annoying. holy valk armor is a lot less messy

and yea it's mainly for valks

Shouldn't matter fcp does not get dispelled.

[Havenn]

If you can solo without any deaths I'd like to see that lol, you're going to have atleast 2 token/bombs when she goes into fury - if your armor breaks on the first one, you're using much more tokens

Edited by Havenn, 19 May 2013 - 08:29 AM.

[sb120495]

Just recast fcp when you ress back.Won't be easy when she powers up of course.As a gene your equipment shouldn't be limited by monsters' equipment breaking skills.

[DrAzzy]

I would take valk over orleans any day for this, unless I had dual megs or something else really powerful for both acc slots. It's only for one monster, and that monster breaks armor a lot.

It really sucks when you lose a critical piece of gear between when you token and when you get FCP off. It happened to me enough times on bakey and booyah that I now carry 2 wind unfrozens....

Expecially since acid bomb is fixed cast (so the 10% extra cast time with phen doesn't matter).

Edited by DrAzzy, 19 May 2013 - 01:51 PM.

[RoLegend]

TO SUMMARIZE

 

I . STATS

 

ONE POINT STR = 2.8

ONE POINT INT = 1.5

ONE POINT LUK = 1 <-- LUK HELPS OUT TOO IN BOMB DAMAGE AND BASE VALUE SHOULD BE IN MULTIPLES OF 3 SINCE IT GETS FLOORED EVERY 3 POINTS FOR ATK AND MATK

 

[ THE ABOVE INFO COMES FROM Dr.Azzy ]

 

SO at 150/50 [ONLY JOB BONUSES INCLUDED]

 

STR - 105 +  1

AGI -   1 +  5

VIT -  96 +  4 <--STUN IMMUNITY

INT -  90 + 11 <--NO NEED MORE - JUST HBP BONUS - SINCE NOW LUK WILL GIVE MORE POINTS

DEX -  90 +  6

LUK -  54 +  1

 

 

ACID BOMB DAMAGE -> (105 + 1) x 2.8 + (90 + 11) x 1.5 + (54 + 1) x 1 = 296.8 + 151.5 + 55 = 503.3 POINTS

 

OTHER COMBINATIONS OF LUK AND INT CAN BE TRIED FOR EITHER MORE CC DAMAGE [ INCREASE INT ] or MORE AB DAMAGE

THE ABOVE FORMULA IS BY FAR THE SIMPLEST WAY TO CALCULATE .. [THANKS TO Dr. Azzy]

 

 

II . SKILLS

 

MERCHANT SKILLS - 

 

INCREASE WEIGHT LIMIT - 10

PUSHCART              - 10

VENDING               - 10

DISCOUNT              - 10

OVERCHARGE            - 10

ITEM APPRAISAL        -  1

 

TOTAL                 - 51 <-- 2 points OVER from biochemist

 

 

BIOCHEMIST SKILLS - 

 

POTION RESEARCH  - 10

AID POT          - 5

FCP              - 5

ALL HOMUN SKILLS - 1

ACID BOMB        - 10

 

AND ALL THE PREREQUSITES FOR THESE SKILLS.. POINTS LEFT CAN BE FILLED OUT ACCORDING TO PREFERENCE

 

 

GENETECIST SKILLS - 

 

CART REMODELLING - 5

CART CANNON      - 5

CART BOOST       - 5

SPORE EXPOSION   - 3 (PRE REQUISITE)

DEMONIC FIRE     - 3 (PRE REQUISITE)

FIRE EXPANSION   - 5

SPECIAL PHARMACY - 4 (PRE REQUISITE)

 

CAN GET BLOOD SUCKER 1 LEVEL AND CRAZY VINES 1 LEVEL TO COUNTER SKILLS AND FOR GHOST MVPS XD

AGAIN THE REST ARE MAINLY FOR WOE SO YOU CAN DO WHATEVER OR SAVE THEM FOR A LATER UPDATE

 

III . GEAR

 

  UPPER HEADGEAR - 

 

[A] DAMAGE - 

 

+9 EMH WITH DARK PINGUICULA CARD

+10 or HIGHER EMH WITH SEYREN WINDSOR CARD

 

SURVIVABILITY - 

 

+7AK HELM + LEIB OLMAI CARD   - 10% BOSS REDUCTION + 10% FIRE REDUCTION

+7AK HELM + LEAF CAT CARD     - 10% BOSS REDUCTION + 10% WATER REDUCTION

+7AK HELM + GIANT HORNET CARD - 10% BOSS REDUCTION + 10% WIND REDUCTION 

 

 

  MID HEADGEAR - 

 

[A] DAMAGE - 

 

DARK PINGUICULA GLASSES OR BDM

 

SURVIVABILITY - 

 

THE ABOVE MENTIONED CARDS IN SECTION UPPER HEADGEAR IN MINI GLASSES <-CHEAPEST .. LOL

 

 

  LOWER HEADGEAR - 

 

PIRATE DAGGER / GANGSTER SCARF

 

 

[THE WITCH PUMPKIN HAT AND MASK COMBO GIVES BETTER RESULTS AGAINST UNDEAD/DEMON MVPS XD]

 

 

 

 

 ARMOR - 

 

[A] DAMAGE - 

 

+7-+9 ORLEANS GOWN OF WILD CAT STR + 3 ENCHANT

 

SURVIVABILITY

 

ORLEANS GOWN + SWORDFISH - WATER

             + PASANA    - FIRE

             + BATHORY   - SHADOW

             + DOKEBI    - WIND

 

VALKYRIAN ARMOR + ANGELING - HOLY <-AGAINST VALK RANDGRIS SINCE SHE BREAKS ARMOR [b]<<<---NO ORLEANS SO PHEN REQUIRED HERE

 

UNFROZEN FIRE ARMOR - NAIGHT SEIGER SINCE HE CASTS BOTH STORM GUST AND METEOR STORM [b]<<<---NO ORLEANS SO PHEN REQUIRED HERE

 

UNFROZEN WIND ARMOR - KATHYREN KEYRON , STORMY KNIGHT[b]<<<---NO ORLEANS SO PHEN REQUIRED HERE

 

 

 

  WEAPON - 

 

+9-+12 TRIPLE KINGBIRD RED TIWN SWORD

 

BYEOLLUNGUM x2EA5 ENCHANTS CURRENTLY DO MORE DAMAGE THAN THE RED TWIN SWORD [<--- INFO FROM michaeleeli ON WP FORUM]

 

 

  SHIELD - 

 

+9-+XX VALK SHIELD OF ROYAL GUARD / CRANIAL WHENEVER USABLE

 

MEDUSA CARDED VALK SHIELD FOR PHREEONI , OSIRIS SINCE THEY CAST STONE CURSE

 

 

  GARMENT - 

 

+9 IMMUNE / DEVIANT / GIANT WHISPER CARDED HEROIC BACKPACK

 

[FOR RESIST GARMENTS CAN USE MARSE CARD - WATER | JAKK CARD - FIRE | DUSTINESS CARD - WIND | ISIS CARD - SHADOW | MARIONETTE CARD - GHOST | ORC ZOMBIE CARD - UNDEAD] <-- LAST TWO HERE NOT WORTH SWITCHING HBP FOR IMHO

 

 

  FOOTGEAR - 

 

VARIANTS XD

 

 

  ACCESSORIES

 

[A] DAMAGE - 

 

2x MEDAL OF HONOR > BUWAYA TAT > BAKONAWA TAT

 

 

[B] SURVIVABILITY - 

 

2X WATER DROP BROOCHES CARDED WITH KAFRA BLOSSOM CARDS <-- GOOD RESISTANCE AGAINST WATERBALL MVPS AND GENERAL GOODNESS FOR SURVIVABILITY

 

1X WATER DROP BRROCH WITH PHEN WHEN NOT USING ORLEANS

 

 

 

 

 

[b]MVP AND BOSS AND ELEMENTS

 

 

1.AMON RA - FIRE RESIST GEARS

 

2.ATROCE - NEUTRAL RESIST > SHADOW RESIST

 

3.BAPHOMET - FIRE RESIST UPPER AND MID HEAD GEAR FOR LOV , GR AND NEUTRAL RESIST FOR EQ AND HELLS JUDGEMENT

 

4.BEELZEBUB - ??

 

5.BOITATA - FIRE RESIST GEARS

 

6.DARK LORD - FIRE .. NEUTRAL

 

7.DETARDEURUS - <--SEEING THIS ONE FOR THE FIRST TIME - FIRE RESIST GEARS

 

8.DOPPLEGANGER - SHADOW RESIST GEARS

 

9.DRACULA - SHADOW / NEUTAL ?? NOT SURE

 

10.DRAKE - WATER RESIST GEARS

 

11.EDDGA - FIRE??

 

12.EGNIGEM CENIA - ??

 

13.EVIL SNAKE LORD - ??

 

14.FALLEN BISHOP - SHADOW RESIST GEAR

 

15.GLOOM UNDER NIGHT - FIRE RESIST GEAR

 

16.GOLDEN THIEF BUG - FIRE RESIST GEAR..NEEDED??

 

17.GOPINICH - FIRE RESIST GEAR

 

18.HATII - UNFROZEN

 

19.HIGH PRIEST MARGARETHA - ??

 

20.HIGH WIZARD KATHRYNE - UNFROZEN FIRE ARMOR , FIRE/WATER RESIST HEADGEARS, FIRE/WATER GARMENT

 

21.IFRIT - FIRE RESIST GEARS

 

22.KIEL D-01 - ??

 

23.KLULTANUX - UNFROZEN WATER RESIST GEARS

 

24.LADY TANEE - ??

 

25.LORD KNIGHT SEYREN - ??

 

26.LORD OF THE DEAD - ??

 

27.MAYA - EARTH .. NEEDED??

 

28.MISTRESS - WIND RESIST GEARS

 

29.MOONLIGHT FLOWER - FIRE RESIST GEARS

 

30.NIDHOGGUR'S SHADOWN - FIRE RESIST / NEUTRAL RESIST

 

31.ORC HERO - WIND RESIST GEARS

 

32.ORC LORD - NEUTRAL RESIST FOR EQ

 

33.OSIRIS - SHADOW RESIST GEARS

 

34.PHAROAH - WIND RESIST GEAR

 

35.PHREEONI - NEEDED??

 

36.RSX-0806 - NEUTRAL RESIST FOR EQ

 

37.SAMURAI SPECTER - SHADOW RESIST GEARS

 

38.SCARAB QUEEN - ??

 

39.SNIPER CECIL - RANGED RESIST ?? NOXIOUS ??

 

40.STORMY KNIGHT - UNFROZEN WIND

 

41.TAO GUNKA - ??

 

42.THANATOS PHANTOM - UNFROZEN FIRE

 

43.TURTLE GENERAL - WATER RESIST GEAR FOR WATERBALL

 

44.VALK RANDGRIS - HOLY VALK ARMOR , WDB UNDER CAST

 

45.VESPER - FIRE REIST GEAR

 

46.WHITE LADY CARD - WATER RESIST GEARS FOR WATERBALL

 

47.WHITESMITH HOWARD - WATER??

 

48.WOUNDED MOROCC - FIRE/WIND/NEUTRAL - HE CASTS A **** LOAD OF SKILLS ??!!

[Havenn]

Lol, 90 INT, I find having 100+ is better due to CC. There are a few reasons why you I'd rather have a bit extra on CC than on AB.

 

Byeo EA8 will also be stronger than RTE

 

 

4.BEELZEBUB - Neutral Resist/Knock Back resist (DR) (Bryn)

 

8.DOPPLEGANGER - Dopp will only hurt when in fury, then it's all neutral (DR)

 

9.DRACULA - > NEUTAL (hells judgment)

 

13.EVIL SNAKE LORD - Unfrozen Fire

 

16.GOLDEN THIEF BUG - FIRE RESIST GEAR..no need

 

18.HATII - UNFROZEN Water

 

22.KIEL D-01 - Fire

 

24.LADY TANEE - Doesn't matter

 

26.LORD OF THE DEAD - Shadow/More Neutral due to Hells Judgment

 

27.MAYA - EARTH .. Helps, but not needed, her mobs hurt worse than her

 

35.PHREEONI - No need, also not too important to have Medusa for him/Osiris they aren't bad

 

37.SAMURAI SPECTER - Neutral, only very hard hit is Hells Judgement

 

44.VALK RANDGRIS - HOLY VALK ARMOR , KBC's - a Black Rosary would help more due to LoV

 

48.WOUNDED MOROCC - FIRE/WIND/NEUTRAL - HE CASTS A **** LOAD OF SKILLS ??!! - His skills aren't very bad, I can use a Bryn and it's fine

Edited by Havenn, 25 July 2013 - 05:12 AM.

[DonatoX]

Thank you guys... this is usefull for everyone ^^

 

[RoLegend]

Thanks Havenn for helping out with the above list .. I have never Mvped them nor do i have a gen.. i just like the game and i like reading so i tried to put it all in one post as i found this thread most informative about Gen.. i researched the MVPs on ro doddler monsters and checked each of their skills out and made that list.. Hopefully it benefits everyone. Have a good time playing RO everyone = )

[Havenn]

=D, no problem, always good to be pro-active, a lot of your info is correct and nicely condensed into one post, just thought I'd help with some =O

 

I am also a STR hater, lol.

[michaeleeli]

 

 

I am also a STR hater, lol.

 

Lol we just don't get on this my love ;(

[DonatoX]

Lol we just don't get on this my love ;(

 

Lol.....

[Darksorrow1234]

so... ill just use orlean gown with pasana/swordfish/dokebi since i have no enough zeny to spend on those elemental armors... T_T

[Havenn]

so... ill just use orlean gown with pasana/swordfish/dokebi since i have no enough zeny to spend on those elemental armors... T_T

 

This is the best place to start, this is what I did

[Godpersonified]

Also adding the garment elemental resist cards to nid garb would be nicer since nid garb gives 7% resist to all elements if I'm not wrong. ^_^

[Havenn]

Also adding the garment elemental resist cards to nid garb would be nicer since nid garb gives 7% resist to all elements if I'm not wrong. ^_^

 

For straight up elemental resist, yes, though imo - you'll make out better with HBP due to increased damage and kill time

 

I don't think I have encountered any elemental attack that would require the nidd

[Joaco]

HBP for all of the bonuses and... GREED! The other variable that Havenn told me was the enchanted FAW. FAW +9 with EA4/3/3. But it doesn't have a slot, and it works better for FBH. It makes better dmg but not sure if it's THAT higher, cause I didn't test it myself though.