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#1 RadiantHelper

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:49 AM

I dont have much time now, but i figure ill start it now, and if i dont get banned ill finish it later.

Anyways, i played a rad for 3+ Years. Had a guide before, but....got poofed. HERE GOES! This is a GUIDE, so you dont have to stick to it, but simply follow most of the suggestions >_<


There are 2 Sections.
Skills you should have.
Skills my build has PVE/PVP.

SKILLS YOU SHOULD HAVE!
77 Skill points used out of the available 109 (at lvl 90)

TEMPLAR

Level 1
Templar_Elec_Bolt.gif Elec Bolt - 1 POINT - Primary Nuke. Does elec damage. Make it lvl 1, additional points barely increase damage and you are a rad not a DPS machine.
Templar_Rejuvenation.gif Rejuvination - 1 POINT - Filler for your first heal. With decent gear it will tick about 200 heal.
Templar_Ion_Shield.gif Ion Shield - 0 POINTS - This is completely useless for PVE rad. Dont get it. At all.
Level 10
Templar_Elec_Twister.gif Elec Twister - 0 POINTS - Dont. Simply dont.
Templar_Concentration.gif Concentration - 1 POINT - This used to be really nice for giving you more mana when it gave a %. Now its a static value, and its simply not worth it for higher lvls. This is however a filler for a skill that pretty much every toon in the game needs. Thank you Gravity for nerfing MP regen!
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Level 20
Templar_Charged_Bolt.gif Charged Bolt - 1 POINT - Second nuke. Nice to have. Also no point in leveling it past 1, you are a rad not a dps machine.
Templar_Lesser_Heal.gif Lesser Heal - 10 POINTS - YES! Finally! A heal. 12 second cooldown, 1 second cast time. BUT, theres a dna to make it instant cast so dont worry! Max it, love it.
Templar_Divine_Protection.gif Divine Protection - 0 POINTS - Dont worry, later on you get a party DP which is much more effective. No need to waste points on this.
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Level 30
Templar_Elec_Shock.gif Elec Shock - 0 POINTS - Dont. Simply dont.
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Level 40
Templar_Holy_Bolt.gif Holy Bolt - 0 POINTS - For a PVE rad this skill is not needed. For pvp yes. So no taking it!
Templar_Invigoration.gif Invigoration - 0 POINTS - DONT, if you have more than 1 point in this skill, RESKILL IMMEDIATELY!
Templar_Blessed_Revelation.gif Blessed Revelation - 10 or 0 POINTS - With the introduction of the Honor system it is no longer 100% necessary to have this skill. Druids/Defilers/Mystics will love you for it but if you have 5-6 points into MP recovery Honor you will be fine.
Templar_Magic_Shield_Mastery.gif Magic Shield Mastery - 0 POINTS - I dont even know why templars have this skill still. Utterly useless.
Templar_Sleep.gif Sleep - 1 POINT - For PVE i dont see much reason to have this. You should be healing, not sleeping mobs. Anyways this is useless in ET. Mobs immune to sleep.
Templar_Resistance_%28Curse%29.gif Resistance (Curse) - 0 POINTS - This skill gives resistance to curse. My build has this maxed for ET, Tyrant, AoS. All 3 have skills that do curse aoe damage. But its your choice.

RADIANT
Level 50
Templar_Salvation.gif Salvation - 1 POINT - Revives a party member. For those who dont have AEDs. Do not use this during a raid if you are the only rad.
Templar_Lesser_Party_Heal.gif Lesser Party Heal - 10 POINTS - MORE HEALS!!! YES! Max it!
Templar_Moderate_Heal.gif Moderate Heal - 10 POINTS - Another heal! WOOT WOOT! Max it!
Radiant_Divine_Protection.gif Divine Protection - 10 POINTS - Party defense buff. Nice. Max this baby
Templar_Survival_Instinct.gif Survival Instinct - 10 POINTS - Passive defense buff. This comes in really handy when doing juggers. Max this bad boy
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Level 60
Templar_Restoration.gif Restoration - 0 POINTS - At lvl 10 with 5 points into DNA this becomes quite a useful tool for doing JS raids without mystics. Otherwise silly.
Radiant_Moderate_Party_Heal.gif Moderate Party Heal - 10 POINTS - And one more party heal. Nice nice, max this one too!
Radiant_Hush.gif Hush - 0 POINTS - For pve this is useless. For pvp this is, a godsend! Base your decision of getting it on whether or not you pvp
Radiant_Mana_Shield.gif Mana Shield - 1 POINT - Do not use this during raids unless you just died and are waiting for HP buffs. This is beyond stupid to use during raids.
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Level 80
Radiant_Divine_Cleansing.gif Divine Cleansing - 0 POINTS - Useless pve. Quite nice pvp tho.


DNA 25/50/55- Suggestions, Not actual Build
DNA_Templar_Extended_Concentration.gifExtended Concentration - 0 POINTS - Useless, don't know why they even have this. The skill itself at lvl 10 lasts 30 minutes anyways.

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Concentration.gStrengthened Concentration0 POINTS - Useless. 1k extra mana at lvl 10. Why?

DNA_Templar_Potens_Elec_Shock.gifPotens Elec Shock0 POINTS - Useless, even tempests dont have this. Why bother getting it as a radiant.

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Twister.gifStrengthened Twister0 POINTS - Useless, shouldn't even have twister.

DNA_Templar_Swift_Elec_Twister.gifSwift Elec Twister0 POINTS - Useless, still shouldn't have twister.

DNA_Templar_Extended_Ion_Shield.gifExtended Ion Shield0 POINTS - Useless, once again don't know why they even have this skill. At lvl 10 the skill lasts 30 minutes anyways.

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Ion_Shield.gifStrengthened Ion Shield0 POINTS - Useless for anything over 50. If you are a 49 twink this is GREAT for those nasty rogues.

DNA_Templar_Moderated_Lesser_Heal.gifModerated Lesser Heal0 POINTS - Useless, reduces mana cost. Seriously even at lvl 10 lesser heal uses like 100 mana. 

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Lesser_Heal.gifStrengthened Lesser Heal0/6 POINTS - This really depends on if you have the available DNA or not. If you do put 6 points and you get an additional 250 heal, which is 500 on crit. That is nice. If you REALLY want to make it 10 points which is an additional 450 heal and thats 900 on crit. Really nice.

DNA_Templar_Swift_Lesser_Heal.gifSwift Lesser Heal - 5 POINTS - Utterly brilliant skill. Instant heal! Take it, cherish it.

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Rejuvenation.giStrengthened Rejuvenation0 POINTS - Useless for anything over 50. However if you are a 49 twink. Take it. It is brilliant

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Survival_InstinStrengthened Survival Instinct - 0/10 POINTS - Ok If you have 50+ Dna get this. Adds another 550 defense. Great for Jugger, surviving melee players, and AoS Jala since that fruitcake LOVEs to debuff your buffs and this is passive.

DNA_Templar_Swift_Salvation.gif Swift Salvation0 POINTS - Useless, shouldnt be using salv in raids anyways. And if you are using it at another time you have plenty of time to cast.

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Lesser_Party_HeStrengthened Lesser Party Heal10 POINTS - Outstanding. Makes your party heal awesome.

DNA_Templar_Long_Range_Moderate_Heal.gif Long Range Moderate Heal0/10 POINTS - Well, its a fun skill. Makes you heal people from an INSANE distance. But not very practical.

DNA_Templar_Strengthened_Divine_Protecti Strengthened Divine Protection0/10 POINTS - Makes your defense buff better. How can you NOT want this? Great if you like to duo raids. Since most of the time you duo with Mystics or Defiler, they need that extra 550 defense to get cap.

DNA_Templar_Potens_Restoration.gif Potens Restoration0/5/10 POINTS - Guess it can be useful if you have the actual skill at 10. But not many places you can use it. I would go with 0 points and ignore the skill as well.

DNA_Templar_Long_Range_Moderate_Party_He Long Range Moderate Party Heal0/10 POINTS - Also makes you heal players from ridiculous distance. Quite fun to have but otherwise not much actual benefit.

DNA_Templar_Swift_Hush.gif Swift Hush0/5 POINTS - If you pvp, make this 5.

DNA_Templar_Mana_Shield_Intensification. Mana Shield Intensification0 POINTS - Useless.

DNA_Templar_Swift_Mana_Shield.gif Swift Mana Shield0/5 POINTS - I found this to be useless at first. However if you have a good MP amount and good HP amount and love to pvp. This skill can be a life saver. Like if you survived a sins scud, he hasnt used HT yet but you know your HP wont last that HT, you can instant MS and most likely survive.

 

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Edited by RadiantHelper, 22 October 2013 - 05:12 PM.

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#2 exilehunter

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:53 AM

yeah. basically the skeleton of any rad build - all good buffs and heals maxed.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:48 AM

I still like to max Salvation, better than aed and with dna castable under 1 sec, so even when u r only rad in raid u usually got enough time to res someone. Reduce the mall sales! :thumb2:



Edit: U should add a DNA section too, good basic guide tho :)

Edited by MacMad, 03 April 2013 - 02:51 AM.

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#4 Daniels1976

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:18 AM

Is nice advice if you want a pure raid build but have fun making up the exp from dying during the raid, I like sleep is nice for like pvp and JS grind, holy bolt is nice too it even well work against some bosses there is a lot dispute on hush and mana shield.

Edited by Daniels1976, 03 April 2013 - 11:33 AM.

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#5 RadiantHelper

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:54 AM

The first build is main skills that every radiant should have and if he doesnt needs to reskill. Ill make the second build later when i have free time. I will also do the dnas for 25/50/55
Ill also do gear, but i need time for that.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:34 PM

You do have a point rads job is to heal so those should be your main focus skills, then after that you can play around with other skills.
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:15 AM

I still like to max Salvation, better than aed and with dna castable under 1 sec, so even when u r only rad in raid u usually got enough time to res someone. Reduce the mall sales! :thumb2:



Edit: U should add a DNA section too, good basic guide tho :)



NOPE, never....
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#8 MacMad

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:01 AM

NOPE, never....


pufo why? explain urself :P
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 05:29 PM

Interesting
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:07 PM

same O.o xD
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:21 AM

pufo why? explain urself :P

As Pufos inofficial spokesperson she would like to say, that:
- Instead of skilling that crap you can skill something more usefull.
- Even if you want to waste 10 skill points on that skill, DNA points are surely spend better somewhere else.
- People should have AEDs with them, they dont cost a fortune (personally I still have like 200/300 rare aeds from some event i feed on).
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:14 AM

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:47 PM

As Pufos inofficial spokesperson she would like to say, that:
- Instead of skilling that crap you can skill something more usefull.
- Even if you want to waste 10 skill points on that skill, DNA points are surely spend better somewhere else.
- People should have AEDs with them, they dont cost a fortune (personally I still have like 200/300 rare aeds from some event i feed on).



Yeah, like Leash said, it s a waste of skill points and DNA points. I rather see rads with MAX defense and not rads who let ppl die in raids cause they re too excited about resurrecting with their level 10 salvation(not saying you re doing it on purpose cause you have level 10 salvation).
Not to mention that if you start using salvation at a raid after the first person dies, EVERYONE starts asking for help to save AEDs, before you know it the whole party is dead and yelling to be resurrected.

Also I draw a line and get selfish I guess, I have max defense, max heals, max sleep, max hush so I have the right to get selfish and skill some pew pews instead of getting salvation level 10.
You will not always have someone doing the killing for you so you need to be able to kill also, otherwise you ll sit around Alban all day until a friend logs in to kill the mob you need.
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Posted 23 May 2013 - 01:35 AM

I was stating this for full pve build, dont realy need hush for it. And defense, hm, if u get aggro the tank / tankpet did something wrong :P
I had it with my full pve rad and worked realy nice, throw a pt heal, res someone, pt heal etc. With lowgeared ppl it can be pain for sure if u have to res all the time...
With 55 dna pts u can max the range of heals, in JS for example stand out of Tyrants stunrange, heal the tank with single heals and click a pt member so pt heal reaches tank too. Everyone can decide for himself, was just what i liked :)
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Posted 23 May 2013 - 02:59 AM

If you wanna do jugger with a squishy aoe dps, it needs your max defense, also there s no such thing as pure PVE anymore, you need to defend yourself sometimes.
I get it's what you like but you re spreading the disease of "REZ...REZ PLS...PLEASE HELP...HELP" and let s not forget the whispers lol.
Anyways, if you really wanna play a rad, you need a little bit of each to be functional in every situation.
Think my build is rather balanced but to each their own.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:20 PM

I as well do not believe in a pure pve build. I find it utterly silly. Those that knew my rad, know that i was a hybrid and did great in pvp.
I used many different builds and my last one before i lost everything was a hilarious hybrid that had curse resist maxed >_<
Anyways, ill probably finish this build within the next week. Sorry for the delay.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 02:11 PM

Hmmmm.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:34 PM

I have done alot of grinding in JS with just a sin or warlord. Hush is a must, and electric bolt I have always used to help in grinding or quest done by myself.
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 04:46 PM

I have done alot of grinding in JS with just a sin or warlord. Hush is a must, and electric bolt I have always used to help in grinding or quest done by myself.

Laaaaady!!!!
And +1 to what she said, sleeping/hushing the garudas in JS helps a lot! Lets drink for that!
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:00 AM

I change my build again but can't decide about last 4 dna points. + def or + heal to lesser heal :S

 

 

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:04 AM

I would make rather Mana Shield +9 than Salvaition +10. Helps a lot.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:05 PM

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:23 AM

I actually have lvl 10 restoration (+lv5 dna for 10sec cd) - since im more pveish atm - and i like it alot. I think it never failed on me before and the 1sec casttime is fine.

Ofc when there's a mystic in party its kind of useless, but you dont always have one and sometimes they're sleepy.

 

I even was able to get the fun pvp stuff, the only thing I'm missing for a complete fun foc experience is holy bolt, but ya can't have it all can ya~

 

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:03 AM

well I put on def, but on next reset I'll quit  a few points from restoration dna to lesser heal. At +9 is 5 secs cd. For me restoration is usefull on js smalls, ussualy I do it with 5 ppl party and without mystics.

 

Btw leash, I quit BR in my build since honor update. mp recov +4 (honor skill), the one wich gives +30 - +60 - etc. gives me a lot more than BR. Tested on a defiler at least


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:08 AM

well I put on def, but on next reset I'll quit  a few points from restoration dna to lesser heal. At +9 is 5 secs cd. For me restoration is usefull on js smalls, ussualy I do it with 5 ppl party and without mystics.

 

Btw leash, I quit BR in my build since honor update. mp recov +4 (honor skill), the one wich gives +30 - +60 - etc. gives me a lot more than BR. Tested on a defiler at least

 

lvl 10 sec cd work for me.

 

yea i know i have that too, but i think an extra BR on top wont hurt :) i think i can live without holy bolt for now, maybe one day i will skill it instead of BR when i consider doing pvp with this char.


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