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[SamuelAdams]

Arrow Storm needs some major balancing. It is nowhere as good and useful as severe rainstorm, and Ranger is the main bow user not Wanderer, something is wrong here...

Eh... Sniper vs Trans bards? They got arrow vulcan, better damage than sniper skills.
What has changed here? xP

If ds has a delay now... I wonder if rogue class triangle shot is better?
Lol at that if it's so.
(Thanks for the info about the delay Clogon, that really is nothing if it's true, +1 for u.)

Edited by SamuelAdams, 25 October 2010 - 11:47 PM.

[Clogon]

0.1s Delay on DS means squat and only affects Hackers. It doesn't affect normal players at all as 193 ASPD = 7 attacks per second.

Triangle Shot sucks don't even think about getting it. <.<

[Pocky]

i just remember dsing alot faster than now, same attack speed
also, it would be great if people cant charge attack or backslide from warg bite, ankle snare, snap
AND also, be able to cast our self buffs on warg

Edited by Pocky, 28 October 2010 - 03:08 AM.

[Lieren]

Yeah, DS seems to be a lil slower but i just can't seem to figure if it's the cast time or the after cast delay. It's still decent though.
Fear Breeze isn't so bad if you know what you are doing and have the right equips but i like the suggestions regarding not consuming arrows. Yes, it make you go through arrows so fast that it's ridiculous, too many kafra card usage or trips back to kafra and this is already with quivers. This may sound like whining but i'm pretty sure any agi dex dps hunter/sniper/ranger here know how this feels. Also i agree on the last 2 of the 3 improvements whoever made that suggestion.
Arrow storm. Seriously, they give a class that's not really built to use bows a better bow skill than us. Isn't this just retarded? This forced Maestros/Wanderers to invest in a bow which i'm sure they've already tried to stock up on instruments/whips for renewal...With FAS being awful (it wasn't a great skill before, it only worked if the mob was lined up perfectly to maximize damage...), this is just a lame AOE bow skill.
Aimed Bolt. Ugh, don't even get me started on this...
Ranger Main. Why not on insects too?

Overall, it's just sad to see that a 3rd class is still reliant on 1-1(DS) or 2-1 skills (traps) to kill instead using 3rd class skills. This was supposed to be a bow class too just a trapper and warg user.

[SamuelAdams]

DS has a slight .1 sec or something aftercast delay on it or w/e. It's annoying when you are trying to spam it by spam clicking or if you time it right after your first one. Put in for cheaters I heard.
And, fear breeze sucks ass. -.-' (unless they changed it, burn alot of skill points for about 1.2X overall increase in damage? that.)
Aimed bolt is actually decent for one mob. Better than arrow storm. I think arrow storm is useless.

[franzed]

warg strike should bypass defending aura like autoblitz before renewal.. and reflecting the trap with the crusader skill even you're not seen on the screen sucks..

[Undying]

Rangers need all of their traps nerfed, end of topic. GM's get on it.

[ValeriusM]

Rangers need all of their traps nerfed, end of topic. GM's get on it.

Could you explain your circumstances more. What do you think needs to be nerfed about traps, and why? Are you aware that ranger traps afaik will be nerfed by getting 1 second cast time and one second aftercast delay with the upcoming ranger updates?

[FailedEXE]

Rangers need all of their traps nerfed, end of topic. GM's get on it.

Yes, nerf the very last thing that is good about Rangers why don't you?

[Undying]

Could you explain your circumstances more.

Manhole + traps everywhere + reverse sac thing = death by shadow chaser and more so if they have another class do any skill to them that makes it so you can't pot.

Edited by Undying, 01 December 2010 - 04:26 PM.

[Bomm]

kinda off topic but nerf RGs too, their OP-ness makes retards like Undying feel he's better than others.

[Undying]

kinda off topic but nerf RGs too,

We are getting nerfed soon enough, thanks for the advice. We will lose over 70% of our skills and 100% of our useful skills, of course assuming that iro follows jro's foot steps.

their OP-ness makes retards like Undying feel he's better than others.

You act like I'm one of those people that jump class to class to stay current with most OP situations. For example after people realized sinx's could 1 shot everything (before asprika's ect) with just EDP and sonic blow then EVERYBODY had one. Same thing with Bio's and acid bomb, EVERYBODY had one. I should rephrase that, EVERYBODY that is SOMEBODY.

Anyways I've stuck with the crusader class for many years and I've always done well at the class. I don't have the best gears, I don't have the most money, I'm not in a huge guild, I don't have access to god gears on a regular basis, and I don't have a million friends to back me up in pvp. But what I do have is great understanding of the game and I know how to take a situation and either minimize the threat or maximize my potential. Thats also why people (non forums) hate me, because I don't have all the crazy good gears that they do AND they still die to me =*(, either that or they respect me (which many do).

Edited by Undying, 01 December 2010 - 04:50 PM.

[Clogon]

@Undying:
You are an RG with access to Spell Shield, Valk Manteau and Shield reflect for a minimum of 110% Melee reflect. How the hell do you have problems with Traps let alone it is from a Chaser and not a Ranger? Anyways please don't digress this topic with problems you have against CHASERS.

@franzed:
Falcon bypassed Defender's Aura pre-RE? I never knew that... Anyways it is reduced now. =/

[Undying]

@Undying:
You are an RG with access to Spell Shield, Valk Manteau and Shield reflect for a minimum of 110% Melee reflect. How the hell do you have problems with Traps let alone it is from a Chaser and not a Ranger? Anyways please don't digress this topic with problems you have against CHASERS.

@franzed:
Falcon bypassed Defender's Aura pre-RE? I never knew that... Anyways it is reduced now. =/

Regardless of class, the skill is still a rangers skill. As far as the reflect part, what you said is possible but not practical (some, very specific RG's can use that set up. Most will not). Reflect skill > everything you said. Unless the Ranger does not understand the skill, then they will simply walk 3 cells away from RG. Shield Spell is more importantly used for 2 things, +atk and 100% chance to break armor every hit. The +reflect part does not stack with reflect skill, so again not practical. I use to have issues vs traps, now I don't.

And yes, blitz bypassed DA pre re and falcon assault also did.

Forgot to mention that Shield Spell is not something you can switch "on the fly". It gives a chance of success for multiple effects, so getting the right one takes time, especially once you add in the after cast delays. Although in your defense (for much higher then 100% reflect) I did come across a RG with a set up like that (VERY annoying to fight) and killed myself very easily on him using any major skill lol.

Edited by Undying, 01 December 2010 - 05:15 PM.

[Pravin]

Rangers need all of their traps nerfed, end of topic. GM's get on it.

Yeah right. ASPD is already nerfed, no overrefine bonus for bows, bows suck, and now nerf the traps. I think there wont be any rangers left on the servers after that happens. Everyone will make RK's with 32k Clashing spirals everywhere. Or RGs who never die.

[Aetherflux]

i love how i come to the forums for info on rangers so i can know what to expect when i hit 3rd class and in every thread i read it derails into a QQ fest about nerf this or buff that or i hate you because you kill more people in pvp than me way to kill the game guys...

[Novax39]

i love how i come to the forums for info on rangers so i can know what to expect when i hit 3rd class and in every thread i read it derails into a QQ fest about nerf this or buff that or i hate you because you kill more people in pvp than me way to kill the game guys...

Yeah, seriously. And it still doesn't even give any helpful info. Smh. At this rate, I might as well wing a ranger build and hope it works.