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[hannspree]

hi all

My artison is lvl 205 with 1156 con and i seem to fail a lot for the amout of con i have http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_puppyeye.gif will it help if i get him to lvl 215 or somthing i realy dont no. i dont mind if i fail on the mats but when i get to gem 7 and it fails on the gem ita like omg 20+mil gone and D7 omg thats like about 70+mil http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_banghead.gif any one no haw to make it fail less lol

[poopiehead]

hi all

My artison is lvl 205 with 1156 con and i seem to fail a lot for the amout of con i have http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_puppyeye.gif will it help if i get him to lvl 215 or somthing i realy dont no. i dont mind if i fail on the mats but when i get to gem 7 and it fails on the gem ita like omg 20+mil gone and D7 omg thats like about 70+mil http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_banghead.gif any one no haw to make it fail less lol

definitely get to 215.but u will still see "fair" for d7's. u just have to deal with it :\

Edited by poopiehead, 22 October 2010 - 04:36 PM.

[hannspree]

definitely get to 215.but u will still see "fair" for d7's. u just have to deal with it :\

they need to put % there and not easy/fair/hard etc.

[CoffeeMuse]

I'm not sure but I'd say yes your level definitely is a factor in difficulty. I chose not to craft any grade 7 gems after the change and wait until I was maxed out in level and gotten the highest CON I could attain shy of special IM items with lucky CON stats. My suggestion is get to 215, try to get your CON up a bit higher, into the 116x range and use either Enthric or Hermes when crafting grade 7 gems. You will still see "fair" at grade 7 but my guess is there still is a gradation where it helps as you get higher level, more CON and use higher quality chems.

Yes, a % window would show you the improvements rather than just a general difficult/fair/easy classification so you could actually see the improvement in smaller increments to let you know yes, the higher level, higher CON and higher quality of chems has improved things, even if by a small but significant amount.

Edited by CoffeeMuse, 22 October 2010 - 04:48 PM.

[poopiehead]

I'm not sure but I'd say yes your level definitely is a factor in difficulty. I chose not to craft any grade 7 gems after the change and wait until I was maxed out in level and gotten the highest CON I could attain shy of special IM items with lucky CON stats. My suggestion is get to 215, try to get your CON up a bit higher, into the 116x range and use either Enthric or Hermes when crafting grade 7 gems. You will still see "fair" at grade 7 but my guess is therer still is a gradation where it helps as you get higher level, more CON and use higher quality chems.

so theres a difference between "fair" and "fair"?

[hannspree]

I'm not sure but I'd say yes your level definitely is a factor in difficulty. I chose not to craft any grade 7 gems after the change and wait until I was maxed out in level and gotten the highest CON I could attain shy of special IM items with lucky CON stats. My suggestion is get to 215, try to get your CON up a bit higher, into the 116x range and use either Enthric or Hermes when crafting grade 7 gems. You will still see "fair" at grade 7 but my guess is therer still is a gradation where it helps as you get higher level, more CON and use higher quality chems.

i use hermes on grade 7 gems and ill get my arti to lvl 215 btw how high can i get my con

Edited by hannspree, 22 October 2010 - 04:49 PM.

[CoffeeMuse]

so theres a difference between "fair" and "fair"?

I can't say for sure, but if you have had better success rates while the difficulty indicator still shows "fair", that means to me that any value that falls between a certain range still shows "fair" so yes, there may indeed be a difference, its just that the indicator doesn't show it. It could be that any number between 50 and 75 will be labeled "fair" and anything 75-99 is labeled "easy". I have no idea what the numbers really are, but thats just my common sense speculation without Gravity coming forth and explaining, which they may never do.

[hannspree]

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% they need to put it on there

[CoffeeMuse]

i use hermes on grade 7 gems and ill get my arti to lvl 215 btw how high can i get my con

I've been using Enthric so far to good effect. My CON is 1164 using Legendary Meric Shoes and Gloves with +10 CON stat. I will keep trying to appaise for the +12 but in the mean time...

EQ I have:

+20 CON Ashura
+20 CON Crown
+20 CON back item
+20 CON book
+10 Legendary Merc shoes
+10 Legendary Merc gloves
Priest Robe (has +30 CON/+30 INT) S7
Level 200 Hammer S7
Luxury Ruby jewelry set S7's

I believe there is item mall gloves that if you appraise with max CON it can boost CON
Also the Ferrell Penant with max appraisal.

Theoretically people say absolute max CON is 1185, but for most of us average schmucks including the IM robe its 1168. If you can't get the Priest Robe (which is no longer in the IM) take off 10 CON off my stat.

Edited by CoffeeMuse, 22 October 2010 - 05:00 PM.

[hannspree]

i got the Priest Robe
my gear is
50 con crown
26 con boots
20 con gloves
30 con Priest Robe
25 con book
20 con wings
35 con mask
Level 200 Hammer S7
Luxury Ruby jewelry set S7's

[Phish]

so theres a difference between "fair" and "fair"?

Yes. Don't really too much on that vague description on items, increasing your con and chems does make a difference in success even if it doesn't 'say' it.

[poopiehead]

Yes. Don't really too much on that vague description on items, increasing your con and chems does make a difference in success even if it doesn't 'say' it.

oh...

i just make gem 7's with low essences xD

havent had any bad lucks so far o.o

[hannspree]

oh...

i just make gem 7's with low essences xD

havent had any bad lucks so far o.o

lucky u

[CoffeeMuse]

I never got the big deal about using low essence. I always can farm way more of other chems, lately I've gotten more Low Enthric than I know what do with. Its always best to use what you can farm the most of in quantity.

[poopiehead]

I never got the big deal about using low essence. I always can farm way more of other chems, lately I've gotten more Low Enthric than I know what do with. Its always best to use what you can farm the most of in quantity.

yah that's what i do as well, but at times i find myself with excess amounts of low essences. most times i just use high ether/low enthrics

[CoffeeMuse]

Yeah, whatever works. For some reason I just never amass that much low essence where I farm and when I do get it, its because I'm working a noob up.

[kaminichuan]

i have a question, a friend has 1165ish con, but fails a lot for 7's (and her level is maxed too)

her english is limited so I'm posting on her behalf; I suspect she might not have all the correct skills

If its not too much trouble could an experienced gem-cutter please make a list of all the helpful crafting skills (gem-cutting)

[poopiehead]

i have a question, a friend has 1165ish con, but fails a lot for 7's (and her level is maxed too)

her english is limited so I'm posting on her behalf; I suspect she might not have all the correct skills

If its not too much trouble could an experienced gem-cutter please make a list of all the helpful crafting skills (gem-cutting)

max gem cutting and gem cutting research.

its just bad luck if she fails that much cuz i have less con and i barely fail on 7's

[CoffeeMuse]

Yes, make sure to max gem cutting and research all the way, and craftsmans talent all the way.

Also keep in mind that the quality of chemicals may affect success rate. I observed higher failures on grade 7 gems (mostly chemicals and hearts) using low entheric or below. Because of this I have been reserving my Entheric and Hermes for the grade 7 and so far it has worked well for me. My CON is 1164.

[kaminichuan]

ok thanks guys (:

also, is it normal to get 'fine' while crafting for grade 6 and 7 for most gems at this con and level?

I think she uses enthiric-hermes for 6 and 7

[CoffeeMuse]

Yes, its "fair" and not "fine" if I read your question correctly.

[kaminichuan]

oh yep sorry lol

thanks for the replies much appreciated

[marebert]

My technique was just simple!
High Ether all the way from +1 - 5
Enthiric +6
hermes +7
my con is just 10xx and luckily i haven't failed yet! And considering also my level is 200!
Btw i almost forgot,
i hav easy +1 - 4
fair when i craft +5 - 6
average +7

Edited by marebert, 16 November 2010 - 04:42 PM.

[MrDraGoN]

they should put %%%%% and new chemical better than Hermes .... !!

[gEddeh]

I mostly use High Ether all the way