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[mysticalre]

     6. Whisper of Little Devil Set (until Aug. 21st)

         Condition: Wearing Baby Devil's Horn + Wing's of Fallen Angel gives Haste Rate, Vigor Rate, Critical Rate 2% increase, Hit Rate 4% increase

 

no offense but this is completely pay2win. It's like a passive 1/2 Pump It Up + 1/2 Explorer Concentration, how sad... I'm not sure if you guys realize just how good 2% crit and 4% hit are?

 

not only that, but it's time-limited, so it's useless to invest in unless you're a cash user. The staff keeps staying that they're trying "SO HARD" to not make this pay2win, but this change isn't really saying that at all.

 

If you're going to do this crap, then:

1) Make the stats permanent or

2) not do this crap at all

 

Everything in the patch was completely fine until this

Edited by mysticalre, 10 July 2013 - 06:48 AM.

[Bestie]

no offense but this is completely pay2win. It's like a permanent 1/2 Pump It Up + 1/2 Explorer Concentration, how sad... I'm not sure if you guys realize just how good 2% crit and 4% hit are?

 

not only that, but it's time-limited, so it's useless to invest in unless you're a cash user. The staff keeps staying that they're trying "SO HARD" to not make this pay2win, but this change isn't really saying that at all

how can you say Permanent  and Time-Limited at the same time to try and argue your point?  o.0 ....  

 

 

Besides that - every month has a flavor, think of it like that. lol.   

[Moontalon]

Stack pandoras please and would like to get a heads up on Noel class

 

The Noel race is currently aimed for release some time in September.

Edited by Moontalon, 10 July 2013 - 06:49 AM.

[OccultPriest]

i needs noel i needs XD

[OccultPriest]

I do think its kindof odd to be the first server to release woe

[mysticalre]

how can you say Permanent  and Time-Limited at the same time to try and argue your point?  o.0 ....  

 

 

Besides that - every month has a flavor, think of it like that. lol.   

 

I meant passive lol yeah, it's fine to give stats to the flavor of the month. I'm completely fine with tux giving +10 stats and +10 runes, because those are permanent

 

but crit & HIT? HIT is the one of the biggest problems for raids when it comes to DPS right now, and you wanna solve everyone's HIT problems by adding some retarded costume?

 

Basically, people already dump zeny into monthly things for Kafra Items. I buy VIPs, tons of explorer packs for raids, etc.

 

Now I have to spend like 30k zeny EVERY MONTH to keep up with these pay2win stats? no offense, that's pretty stupid

Edited by mysticalre, 10 July 2013 - 06:52 AM.

[ODKN]

I do think its kindof odd to be the first server to release woe

 

Because everyone wants PvP, no matter how broken it may be at the start.

[ootoro]

Im getting a "Failed Update patch" error using the manual patch, is that because of the error they found?

[OccultPriest]

Yea id rather get started on the new class but hay

[XionArcadia]

Maki would enjoy wasting his time.

[OccultPriest]

 

[Inquisitore]

Do we really need 2nd Tier Colo item? Right Now Colo item are better than any Raid Item save MAYBE Abadonn of Despair that is not implemented yet.

[kiryuphoenix]

Gimmie back the server :<

[OccultPriest]

I think Raid gear should be the best in the game Colo should only be good for pvp

[Raidius]

colo gear should only give its stats on woe or colo

[OccultPriest]

colo gear should only give its stats on woe or colo

 

I Like that such a good idea

[Peerless]

I was under the impression that the CoA Hard Mode gear set is slightly better than Colo gear.

[Noctiluca]

no offense but this is completely pay2win. It's like a passive 1/2 Pump It Up + 1/2 Explorer Concentration, how sad... I'm not sure if you guys realize just how good 2% crit and 4% hit are?

 

not only that, but it's time-limited, so it's useless to invest in unless you're a cash user. The staff keeps staying that they're trying "SO HARD" to not make this pay2win, but this change isn't really saying that at all.

 

If you're going to do this crap, then:

1) Make the stats permanent or

2) not do this crap at all

 

Everything in the patch was completely fine until this

 

I don't think you understand how "increases" work in this game. If it's the same as every other crit/hit/vigor/dodge/parry/defense rate "increase" then it's only a % increase to your current stats.

 

So if you have ~25% crit then it's 2% increase to that 25%.

[mysticalre]

I don't think you understand how "increases" work in this game. If it's the same as every other crit/hit/vigor/dodge/parry/defense rate "increase" then it's only a % increase to your current stats.

 

So if you have ~25% crit then it's 2% increase to that 25%.

 

For example, explorer pots (also kafra items) give a flat increase. If you have 20% def, explorer health gives +20% = 40. (or was it 15%, whatever, not the point)

 

How do you know if it`s a flat increase or a % increase of your stats? They didn't confirm that. Pump it up pills also give a flat increase

Edited by mysticalre, 10 July 2013 - 07:16 AM.

[XionArcadia]

Thief crit buff is flat increase of 2%

[Moontalon]

For example, explorer pots (also kafra items) give a flat increase. If you have 20% def, explorer health gives +20%=40. 

 

How do you know if it`s a flat increase or a % increase of your stats? They didn't confirm that. Pump it up pills also give a flat increase

 

I've HEARD (not certain on this) that if it says something like "increases defense 5%" it'll increase it 5% of your current stat, but if it says something like "increases defense rate 5%" then it will be a flat 5% increase.

[Bestie]

@_@  so complicated. heh .. but nevertheless, doesn't seem to be anything so tragic as to squeal pay2win on it lmao. 

[mysticalre]

I've HEARD (not certain on this) that if it says something like "increases defense 5%" it'll increase it 5% of your current stat, but if it says something like "increases defense rate 5%" then it will be a flat 5% increase.

 

Yes, I know what you mean

 

And Zanbee specifically said increases rate, which is a flat increase in-game (which would make this 30 day set pretty OP)

 

 

@_@  so complicated. heh .. but nevertheless, doesn't seem to be anything so tragic as to squeal pay2win on it lmao. 

 

not sure if you understand just how good 4% hit is... it's not replaceable with better gear...

Edited by mysticalre, 10 July 2013 - 07:25 AM.

[Inquisitore]

I was under the impression that the CoA Hard Mode gear set is slightly better than Colo gear.

 

 

Aesthetically? Sure. CoA is way easy for the eyes than Colo (IMHO).

But so far Colo stuff are better than anything save MAYBE (I've no found any data for them) AoD stuff.

Edited by Inquisitore, 10 July 2013 - 07:19 AM.

[IXGHOSTXI]

WoE BP deducted when killed? oh man BM are already having allot of trouble in Colo now no BM can even collect BP due to low burst damage and the fury strike bug when the damage dealt to target are ignored if other player use a higher damage skill on the same target which make Class with skill damage like Fury strike of a BM our main dps skill useless in Colo and pvp. most player like wiz sorc, only wait for last hit while BM strugle to get a single kill. hope BM somehow gets fixed, we do have high HP and life steal but because other Class have buffs we cannot hit them so life steal is pointless nor any other skills, Priest heals like hell and can daamage.. bleed debuff should make healing 50% lesser and that is how most games are, our main bread and butter skill does 200 damage while other class like monk does 2x damage.... they too have high hp and high damage. now tell me if this is fair?