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[Kayla1702]

Okay i have just turned assassin :S
Im level 45/1 i think and im highly confused on stats
I think at the moment i have 20 dex 20 str and 57 agi or something like that :S
Now i do want to go katar and but i dont know wether to go nat crit, equip crit or katar double attack using a chik hat or side winder card :S?
And ideas im really confused on what to take it to. The reason why i have high agi is because i was just plowering it into because i didnt have a clue what i wanted to be so yeah any ideas?
I need information on Stats and equips( no matter how high or low ill try get them)
Thank you
Kayla x

[kyoosuke]

I'm also a new thief-recently-turned assassin.

My stats are currently:

STR 49 + 3
AGI 43 +15
VIT 1 + 2
INT 1 + 4
DEX 32 + 3
LUK 1

with 396 stat points to spare, and I have no idea how to allocate them. I think I'm going as STR/AGI/DEX

Could anybody suggest the skills? I can't decide whether to go with katar or two daggers. It would be great if somebody could advise on the skills.

Thank you!

[altandf4]

before you regretting adding too much str later on, I'd advice for more agi/luk/dex or agi/dex/luk
you will need 60-70 dex to hit anything around lvl 90s

[ZeroTigress]

Could anybody suggest the skills? I can't decide whether to go with katar or two daggers. It would be great if somebody could advise on the skills.

Thank you!

There's no good dagger skills for assassins (aside from Left and Right Hand Mastery) until trans class so all you're left with are poison-based skills. If you choose katar instead, you'll have Sonic Blow and Grimtooth to mess around with as a non-trans.

[Hardyson]

imo i would sugget (for the easy, fast and cheapest one):
katar, they have more advantages of mob control, aka hide + grimtooth(max).

enchant poison, venomdust, venomsplasher, poison react OMFG that total waste of sp/time.

[Erekes]

If you want to go Dual dagger, I would suggest getting the katar skills anyway. My sinx has always been dd and I used grimtooth and sonic blow depending on where I was leveling.

As an assassin, if you want to go dd, you'll want to max both the right and left hand mastery. I also recommend maxing katar mastery, sonic blow, grimtooth, and get whatever lvl of cloak you prefer. Work it around if you want the poison skills, I personally don't use them, except for maybe enchant poison when I needed an element and the weapons on me were neutral.

[kyoosuke]

before you regretting adding too much str later on, I'd advice for more agi/luk/dex or agi/dex/luk
you will need 60-70 dex to hit anything around lvl 90s

Ah..... so I'm guessing that STR/AGI/DEX aren't a good combination?
AGI/DEX/LUK assassins are still more popular?

I think I'll use katar and limit my katar mastery skill.
Or is using two daggers better?

Sorry, newbie assassin question.

[Erekes]

Katar vs DD is really a matter of preference. As previously stated, my sinx is a dd build (which I absolutely love), who uses katars on occasion. If you go crit, you'll have an easier time hitting monsters in the higher levels, provided your crit rate is high. A guildmate of mine is an equipment crit sin and he has much less dex than me (I had 40 at level 75) and he had no troubles hitting monsters. I, on the other hand, had some issues hitting 100% of the time when meleeing so I've been raising my dex the past few levels. I now have about 56 dex (at level 85).

He loves his build but he is more reliant on crit gear. If he doesn't have a 100% crit rate, he won't hit monsters in the higher level range, and he knows that. He's planning on becoming a natural crit gx, with about 100 luk. Since I will continue with my daggers when I become a gx, I'm planning on having only 30 or so luk at lvl 150.

I haven't leveled many lower leveled characters since renewal(I've been focusing on my sinx) but from my experiences so far I would recommend raising your str and dex for awhile (if you want to be a dd sin, as a crit sin you'll want more luk than dex right now I think). You will want some agi for aspd and flee but you'll kill much faster if you can hit your target 100% of the time, or around there.

That's just my 2 cents. I'm not that familiar with crit builds tho.

[CharAznable]

Ah..... so I'm guessing that STR/AGI/DEX aren't a good combination?
AGI/DEX/LUK assassins are still more popular?

I think I'll use katar and limit my katar mastery skill.
Or is using two daggers better?

Sorry, newbie assassin question.

Agi dex str based character have advantage of using Grimtooth. which is a HUGE advantage for sin. u need 370 ish hit to hit commonly hunted 100 ish lvled mob. in the same time, Natural crit sin doesnt have that much of hit rate. But, Crit ignore the def(crit) and have 80~85% or higher crit rates to every monster. further more, if u become gx, u will have a lot more skills that requires high dex. like if ur up to hunt some 120 lvled monster, u need 440 or higher hit rates.

So, if i conclude this, i have to say,

Crit sins have less excess to skills, but have 90% ish crit to every mobs.

AGISTRDEX sin have better excess to lot more skills but need high hit rates.

[kyoosuke]

Agi dex str based character have advantage of using Grimtooth. which is a HUGE advantage for sin. u need 370 ish hit to hit commonly hunted 100 ish lvled mob. in the same time, Natural crit sin doesnt have that much of hit rate. But, Crit ignore the def(crit) and have 80~85% or higher crit rates to every monster. further more, if u become gx, u will have a lot more skills that requires high dex. like if ur up to hunt some 120 lvled monster, u need 440 or higher hit rates.

So, if i conclude this, i have to say,

Crit sins have less excess to skills, but have 90% ish crit to every mobs.

AGISTRDEX sin have better excess to lot more skills but need high hit rates.

So..... I should continue building my assassin in STR/AGI/DEX?

[CharAznable]

So..... I should continue building my assassin in STR/AGI/DEX?

it depends.if u want to use skills then go high dex with agi/str. if u want crit all the way, go crit. but im oppose with triple crit jur.

[kyoosuke]

it depends.if u want to use skills then go high dex with agi/str. if u want crit all the way, go crit. but im oppose with triple crit jur.

With two mantis ring by level 99, I want to get:

STR 96+14 / AGI 80+10 / DEX 52+8 / INT 17+4 / VIT 2+2

Hit 159 / Flee 189 / ASPD 176.8

It seems really crappy, but since I'm already level 83/37, just gonna grind through the last 16 levels and go back to high novice.

Sounds good??

[altandf4]

How are you going to level and hit stuff at lvl 90s with 52+8 dex?
I suggest getting little more dex.
And I dont think that much str is going to do much justice.
Every 3 luk gives you the effect of 1 str, so I suggest get like 21 or 30 LUK and reduce some STR
Also every 5 luk give you the effect of 1 str, so this is more important as you want to hit than miss.
You will have to get about 70 base dex around level effectively without crit.

I think crit is really effective build in renewal.

Edited by altandf4, 07 November 2010 - 06:21 AM.

[CharAznable]

With two mantis ring by level 99, I want to get:

STR 96+14 / AGI 80+10 / DEX 52+8 / INT 17+4 / VIT 2+2

Hit 159 / Flee 189 / ASPD 176.8

It seems really crappy, but since I'm already level 83/37, just gonna grind through the last 16 levels and go back to high novice.

Sounds good??

NO, it doesnt. u need at least 70 dex. y u even bothered by vit and int?

[Erekes]

With two mantis ring by level 99, I want to get:

STR 96+14 / AGI 80+10 / DEX 52+8 / INT 17+4 / VIT 2+2

Hit 159 / Flee 189 / ASPD 176.8

It seems really crappy, but since I'm already level 83/37, just gonna grind through the last 16 levels and go back to high novice.

Sounds good??

Since you are non trans, I recommend dropping your int altogether, as well as that vit. 1 point won't really affect anything. Also, CharAznable is right, you will want more dex. My sinx is 85, has 57 + 5 dex right now and cannot hit all the monsters in her range 100%. If you are dead set on that build, you may need a mummy carded weapon to make up for the hit. Maybe get 96 str, 70agi, and 70 dex. That will leave you with 58 points you can distribute how you like. Go fight monsters a bit higher than your level range and see how well you hit them. If you feel more dex is required, adjust as needed.

[kyoosuke]

Since you are non trans, I recommend dropping your int altogether, as well as that vit. 1 point won't really affect anything. Also, CharAznable is right, you will want more dex. My sinx is 85, has 57 + 5 dex right now and cannot hit all the monsters in her range 100%. If you are dead set on that build, you may need a mummy carded weapon to make up for the hit. Maybe get 96 str, 70agi, and 70 dex. That will leave you with 58 points you can distribute how you like. Go fight monsters a bit higher than your level range and see how well you hit them. If you feel more dex is required, adjust as needed.

Ok, with the simulator, I managed to get this:

STR 84 + 6
AGI 70 + 10
DEX 82 + 8

ASPD 176
FLEE 179
HIT 189

Please advise.
Thank you.