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#726 MattyL904

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:55 PM

I think the deviling hat doesn't do what its description says.  It only gives me 1MATK and 0 ATK.  Its supposed to be 2 on each.

 

Please disable icewall and res tokens in GD.  Thank you!


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#727 Xellie

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:01 PM

Tentatively, we are changing Slim White Potion heal to be equal to mastela, as currently mastelas heal more even when the former are ranked. We are still working with the rates so the healing value may fluctuate based on testing and your feedback.

 

 

This doesn't sound right.


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#728 Tolrin

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:22 PM

Not only is it not correct, ranked whites (325 ~ 405 * 1.5 = 487 ~ 607) heal slightly more on average than mastelas (400 ~ 600), there are also characters that have additional benefits for using slim whites (i.e. Stalkers).  This is not an item that needs re-balancing, their reduced weight alone (which was a previous balance change) is more than sufficient.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:38 PM

Didn't you guys say that you were going to check with the community before making sweeping changes?

 

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:47 PM

There are still supplies that could be added to these boxes such as: Blue Herbs, EDP supplies, Cobwebs among other things 


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 03:52 AM

WoE-Supply Boxes, containing -_-tons of supplies being (mostly) available by guilds which own castles already. Hey, i remember close to everyone asking for "more competition" (even unbanning obviously cheating guilds because of a lack of people).

Every guild without at least one castle (and then it has to be a "especially good farmable" one like geffen) fights a uphill-fight against everyone else.

 

Complete opposite of what people demanded just so they can lean back and bash their heads 2 times a week. Sounds fun to me.

 

We should get a focus on advertising this server, so we can get a running economy with newer players (or old guys returning, whatever). Not just shoving everything into the current ~100 people so they can go online 4 hours a week.

 

For sure my post will get quoted by the same 5 people again which are all like "i'm s0 pr0, i HAEV to be right becuz i maek 89328493284m/h 4nd PWnz0r evryting!" and they will try to say that i'm just a random guy with no clue what i'm talking about. But hey, guess they don't understand it anyways.


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#732 HayrohsLegacy

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:04 AM

r... e... s... e... t... s... update pls...


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:25 AM

Oda, dont forgot the Yggberry 100k zeny npc. This completes the unlimited supply update. :ani_swt:

White Slims dont need an update.

Guild Box drop shouldn't be too high. If people want unlimited supplies they have to work for it or pay a reasonable price.

 

 
Seriously oda, add this:

Spoiler

 


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#734 MattyL904

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:12 AM

If you disable GWings and Res Tokens it will make the Guild Dungeon fights so much better.  The fights won't be determined by ONE person on each team being able to Giant Flywing. It will be determined by each player's individual ability on how well they react to flywing away from the opposing party or how well they work with their party on defeating the other party or making them run away or use a flywing.  Res token should also be disabled.  If res tokens aren't disabled then there is really no point in having a priest in your party.  You can get all the buffs from the kafra shop.  Along with not needing a priest res tokens eliminates the factor of skill.  GD war victor is no longer determined on which party works  best together as a team but which party uses more res tokens and kafra shop items.  Yes i realize kafra shop items have to be sold to keep the server running but this is ONE area which GWINGS AND RES TOKENS need to be disabled.  I am only talking about Guild Dungeon wars.  I haven't even started talking about why these items should be disabled for the god item creation quest.  These WoE crates being in the GD could bring a lot of NEEDED FUN to the server if you play it "right".  But if you leave in gwings and res tokens it will take MOST of the fun out of it.  This is one area which YOU can make it so we rely on our party but if YOU don't handle it correctly it will no longer be a team oriented objective.  Please do what will make this MORE FUN. This COULD POSSIBLY bring a lot of needed LIFE back into the server.  If you don't like my ideas then do it for the soul purpose of Gwings and Res Tokens were NOT Classic.  Keep it Classic GMs and everyone will have a better time!

 

I agree that MVPs (except for hocus pocus) should drop WoE crates.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:42 AM

... and we are open!


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:45 AM

Every guild without at least one castle (and then it has to be a "especially good farmable" one like geffen) fights a uphill-fight against everyone else.

 

Complete opposite of what people demanded just so they can lean back and bash their heads 2 times a week. Sounds fun to me.

 

 

I keep saying this. GD only implementation is a very very poor decision.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:54 AM

Its a starting point!

 

P.S Make mvps drop the boxes also!


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:05 AM

Maybe make the high level turnin npc give out a woe box as a reward.

 

Maybe reward either Exp or Woe box if not vip.

 

Maybe reward both Exp and Woe box if vip.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:41 PM

Its pretty hard to get a castle in WoE FE. It's true.........

 

I think added blue herbs to the pack would be something thats needed.

 

Also make it available outside of GD, like MVPs and BGs.


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#740 Melkor

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:44 PM

Yeah so, one of the boxes gave me 7 Karvo..... did you mean to put 70...?


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:31 PM

7 whole karvo!Damn


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 01:51 AM

@Melkor

how many boxes did you get per hour and what was your reward?


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 06:15 AM

Someone said on wiki they got ~7 boxes in 90 minutes and they primarily got Starsands.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 08:08 AM

I have gotten quite a few boxes, to be honest.  Lots of different supplies, but mainly poison spores.  

 

I would say it's definitely worth putting the time in, especially if you have Luina GD where the mobs are way better.

 

Speaking of which, something should probably be done to balance that out a bit.  The other 3 GDs are practically desolate compared to Luina.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 08:19 AM

We can definitely take a look at that. 


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 08:31 AM

Luina always needs love. I dunno about having your god item drop cake and eating the GD too


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 09:22 AM

I was able to get into the 40s in an hour of hunting. So it really isn't that bad, but this was done with HE gum.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 10:24 AM

Which dungeon though?

 

We're not saying they should be 100% equal Xellie, but I'm sure there's a pretty big difference between the "better two" of Luina and Baldur and the "enormous" Valk and Brit.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:38 PM

I will test them all.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

Yeah unbanning would be pretty sw33t


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