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[NosferatuZodd]

I would like to ask about ghost mvps/mobs. I am camping a Ghost MVP[gloom undernight] and I am  competing against another player. .

 

The other player's gears: +15 Hurricane fury EA 12 (AK),+,Panic Orleans Gown, +9 FAW EA 10, Sleipnir, x2 Megingjard (as he showed to me but he might've switched gears but i don't know)

My gears: +9 Hurricane fury EA 9(AK), 9 Pollution EMH,BDM, Orleans Gown of Wild cat, +9 FAW EA 10, Sleipnir, x2 Megingjard

 

The other player's stats:  95 str, 105 dex, 120 int, rest is luk/vit

My stats: 120 STR, 70 vit, 110 int, 100 dex, rest luk

 

I use eden buff, pyroclastic, blessing,odin's power level 2, sacrament, praefatio, angelus, STR/INT/DEX food.

 

I deal 95-100k to the Ghost MVP with my Cart Cannon

On the other hand, the other player deals 130k-150k per Cart cannon

 

How come the damage difference is so big when there's only a  few weapon upgrades and enchant.

Am I missing something?

Edited by NosferatuZodd, 16 December 2013 - 12:31 AM.

[Daray]

'A few weapon upgrades'. I'm sorry but 6 upgrade levels is not 'a few'. A +15 compared to a +9 HF is a huge weapon upgrade difference.

 

If I don't mistake the CC formula, you have to take the ATK bonus the 6 upgrade levels gives and multiply it by 300%.

Edited by Daray, 16 December 2013 - 12:32 AM.

[EH168]

also EA9 vs EA12 would give you a 6% range dmg difference

[NosferatuZodd]

Plausible but not sure about it. Without pyroclastic(+200ATK) i deal 75-85k to ghost, with pyrolastic, i do 95-100k per CC that's like +15-20k damage only. The difference in our damage is 30-50k. Are you telling me that 6 upgrade difference gives more damage than 200ATK? 

Edited by NosferatuZodd, 16 December 2013 - 12:47 AM.

[EH168]

so the other gene did not have pyro?

[Daray]

Weapon Lv. 4 - 0~14 ATK for every Over Upgrade pass the +4 safety limit

 

14*6*300 = 25200

25200 * 2 for max elemental bonus = 50400

[meditation]

How can you be sure about other player stats ? lol... Especially if he is competing with you...

[Havenn]

I have some ideas, PMing you

[NosferatuZodd]

Thanks HAVENN <3

Edited by NosferatuZodd, 16 December 2013 - 06:48 AM.

[DrAzzy]

As I said in PM, my calculations suggest that you should be doing more damage, unless there's some freaky interaction with def that I don't understand (not going to mention what was said in PM until we understand more). 

 

I haven't investigated CC and def interaction. 

Edited by DrAzzy, 16 December 2013 - 07:15 AM.

[josechen]

bump

[Havenn]

Well, my suggestion fell through. Continue to update, I am curious.

[Porcelain]

Panic is 5% attack and unless your both sporting Kiel's then I would assume he is wearing knocker top/mid. That's an additional 15% into the damage formula top of the upgrade advantage. Not to mention +30 on str,int,dex, and luck for food and, Reno buff, and POO from an ab, and maybe striking from a sorcerer.

Side note doesn't every point of int add 2.5% damage into the cc formula? Not 100% sure where this happens but adding another 25% weapon attack or into the cc attack multiplier would also explain a lot of the damage..

Edited by Porcelain, 16 December 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[Havenn]

Porce, you make me so happy. I hope I didn't sell my knockers.........i'm sure there's a sexual joke there

 

Also, is Panic +5% all atk or just matk?

 

Fairly certain the person in question doesn't use a Sorc, also, they have a Sura so if I were them I'd go for bryn

Edited by Havenn, 16 December 2013 - 12:43 PM.

[Zayaan]

GT - Convert?

[Havenn]

GT convert would make sense, that would add more CC Atk than the diff between +9 and +15 too.

[Porcelain]

Maybe just magic attack. I assumed the other guy wasn't bad with the set up he is running and Thought I had my pre-fixes mixed up on cards.

[DonatoX]

interesting topic ^^ free bump for you guys ^^

[sug4r]

maybe it depends on cannon balls?

[RoyalHeritage]

Panic is for Acid Bomb, not CC. On the other hand, looking at both Gearing 50k is huge difference but the refinement does play a part plus the EA enchants added to it. 

[RunningWild]

Damn can Cart Cannon actually do that kind of damage? Feeling motivated to start leveling my Alchemist again now...

Edited by RunningWild, 17 December 2013 - 02:02 AM.

[meditation]

Damn can Cart Cannon actually do that kind of damage? Feeling motivated to start leveling my Alchemist again now...

 

If you have http://db.irowiki.or...item-info/2410/

 

and

 

http://db.irowiki.or...item-info/2629/  x2

 

yes

 

If you have average gears, nope it doesn't.

Edited by meditation, 17 December 2013 - 04:45 AM.

[Havenn]

lolz medi, u know I hit Osiris for 101k without any god's =p, witha 1-hander xD

 

but he's undead 4 x.x

[NosferatuZodd]

finally got my CC to 144k . Man If i had +15 HF EA 12 too, i could deal 160k-170k to gloom 

 

Edited by NosferatuZodd, 17 December 2013 - 07:16 AM.

[Havenn]

Did you win =p? XD pm me gears <3