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#76 jhay1825

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 05:06 PM

Collision UI can still work, you just need to update it coz there was some new features added that isnt included in the old UI. I believe someone has already did, it should be around creative conventions sub forums.

 

For my armors honing i use mostly agi and int ones, i only honed them a couple of times since its pretty easy to get int and agi on honing dunno why. Str also works coz it adds more raw damage, but since this game is super dependant on pumping agi i would rather get those. 


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Posted 31 March 2014 - 10:49 AM

At what point you will think you have enuff INT? >:3?
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Posted 31 March 2014 - 11:13 AM

At what point you will think you have enuff INT? >:3?


THERES NO SUCH WORD FOR ENOUGH INT. MORE CRIT DAMAGE IS ALWAYS WELCOME!!! MWHAHAHAHAHHA!

Ehem.

*composes thyself*

500-600 should be plenty. I mean i havent honed my armors for so long and i was still with 450 int like a few days ago but i can still hold my own. 500+ is very easily achievable through honing, dont need to put much zenny into cards or runes. I would for agi, but int, maybe but i would rather crit more often.

Also for my fellow warriors:
http://forums.warppo...a/#entry1744539
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Posted 14 April 2014 - 10:30 PM

THERES NO SUCH WORD FOR ENOUGH INT. MORE CRIT DAMAGE IS ALWAYS WELCOME!!! MWHAHAHAHAHHA!

Ehem.

*composes thyself*

500-600 should be plenty. I mean i havent honed my armors for so long and i was still with 450 int like a few days ago but i can still hold my own. 500+ is very easily achievable through honing, dont need to put much zenny into cards or runes. I would for agi, but int, maybe but i would rather crit more often.

Also for my fellow warriors:
http://forums.warppo...a/#entry1744539

 

what kind of honing powder did you use for your armor so you can get AGI and INT stats ?

 

and did you use full set osiris ruby acc to achieve 400-500 INT ?

 

oh and which one is more important, HIT or Crit chance for full DPS warrior in pvp and pve ?


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:34 AM

1. I used mostly Haste honing powders since i wanted more attack speed. But in my experience on honing my stuff, getting int in your armors is very easy. Getting both agi and int on the other hand is so-so. Theres not really a specific one to use, just use most what you need like for example if you want def go for defense powders. The stats are random so theres no assurance on what you will get.

2. Yes. Im not sure if i remember what set it is but im using the DPS set for accessories.

3. Both is important, you cant left one out. As i am right now i have 4k hit and 5.3k crit rate. I have no hit or crit in my honings, i just pumped agi up so both hit/crit does balance for me.


Some people do usually visit me to ask questions and duel me. Im always at Morroc AH Ch 14, if i dont respond while online im probably honing my real life muscles but ill reply back once i got on and if you leave a message on my chatbox.^^

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

Given the current state of the damage formulas, is it worth investing in Aura Sword and Battle Order? How big of a difference does not using them make for you? 


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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:31 AM

As of right now giving skill points to Aura Sword, Battle Order and Berserker makes a little difference in your raw damage but not significantly a lot.
I am the type who doesnt like to keep changing builds just because of the state of the game. I still have my Battle Order buff and Berserker at Max but i changed my Aura Blade to lvl 1 since the difference wasnt that big. And also for the coming Balancing patch, your str/int depending if your a physical or magical damage dealer will affect your hit now. So Battle Order is still worth investing in my opinion, as for Berserker and Aura Blade is more of a choice if you wanna stick with it. Will be updating my originl post as soon as i finish my work. O_O
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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:25 PM

This guide sucks :v




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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:04 PM

 I used mostly Haste honing powders since i wanted more attack speed. But in my experience on honing my stuff, getting int in your armors is very easy. Getting both agi and int on the other hand is so-so. Theres not really a specific one to use, just use most what you need like for example if you want def go for defense powders. The stats are random so theres no assurance on what you will get.

 

that random stat really based on pure luck.

one night i hone my two stars osi chain visor with 20 percent pvp powder and i got +26AGI and +1080STR :rofl:

 

oh btw i read this change on playpark :

http://ro2.playpark..../ma-notes-23rd/

 

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1 crit for 1 agi ? seriously ? what will become of us warrior ?

and look at that monk change, vit for def, int & str for damage, agi for critical and dodge.

wow :bow:


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 04:59 AM

Well without int, we are doomed, this happens because everyone complaining about rage strike damage.. now it sucks bigtym.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 05:36 AM

I kinda dont mind these changes at all. It will make it more challenging. I chose warrior since beta coz it had a lot of cons and you needed to sacrificea lot in order to capitalize your hybrid build.
Anyways, my stat build was still the same as i had Pre- AoV i never went for the put evrything to agi coz i know that the system would eventually change into something thats not heavy reliant on agi only. Ive never got the chance to try out the test server so i didnt have the chance to update this guide yet, after i try out the new patch ill do my best to make it viable for the update.
Our damage is still the same, our crit chance was only nerfed a bit, but thats fine. Its all for the greater good.

And as for Monks,they were the forgotten class that need a major haul in their overall. Im happy that the changes did benefit them a lot. Even when they were broken there were still some people who can play monks really good. Ive dueled most of them and im gonna say its not a walk in the park, it all depends on how you play your class time your skills and whatnot. You basically work whats given to you and when youll be recognized for being great in doing so.
Anyways enough of my words of wisdom thats totally not my style. @_@












Ps: Radke you suck. :P

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 11:12 PM

Just saying as a warrior with pre patch crit chance of 32% nerfed to 26% isnt a big hit(it seems a lot but atleast Osiris gears give you now extra critical do aim for that if you lack in crit chance.
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:50 AM

Just saying as a warrior with pre patch crit chance of 32% nerfed to 26% isnt a big hit(it seems a lot but atleast Osiris gears give you now extra critical do aim for that if you lack in crit chance.


Yeah its not that big of a issue. Every class' crit went down. Mine was 38% down to 32% (;_;) but yeah the Hit isnt a real big issue now but damage is still buffed. In PvP "whoever gets to crit first" scenario still stands.
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:39 PM

hey question im new to warrior build and so far i just hit lvl 25 What stats should i range around mostly


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:48 AM

Should balance yourself mostly with strength and agility. Battle Tactics will capitalize more when you reach lvl 50, by then most of your int will come from cards, accessories, runes and slotted costumes if you choose to do so.
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:35 AM

Hey jhay, can I know your current critical rate after 24/3 patch?

Mine is so low, about 27% stats is balanced between INT and AGI.

 

Where did I do wrong exactly? Do I really need AGI honing and lose my INT honing? Thanks!


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:54 AM

Hey jhay, can I know your current critical rate after 24/3 patch?
Mine is so low, about 27% stats is balanced between INT and AGI.

Where did I do wrong exactly? Do I really need AGI honing and lose my INT honing? Thanks!


Before the stat patch (4/23) i had 39% then now i have 32% crit rate.

You could always have them both in your hones, some of my armors and int/agi ones. The most statted equipment i have is my great sword which i got 96 agi and 85 int if my remember correctly. But always remember its always RANDOM and bo assurance of getting what you want, you might have to try a couple of times tog et a good one. Some people prefer to pump their int and get less agi will others do balance them.
I actually prefer to have more agi which capitalizes my crit more, i may not hit that hard as others but my crit damage isnt as low either. I would rather crit often as it will make up for the damage that you lost through lack of int.
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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:23 AM

Before the stat patch (4/23) i had 39% then now i have 32% crit rate.

You could always have them both in your hones, some of my armors and int/agi ones. The most statted equipment i have is my great sword which i got 96 agi and 85 int if my remember correctly. But always remember its always RANDOM and bo assurance of getting what you want, you might have to try a couple of times tog et a good one. Some people prefer to pump their int and get less agi will others do balance them.
I actually prefer to have more agi which capitalizes my crit more, i may not hit that hard as others but my crit damage isnt as low either. I would rather crit often as it will make up for the damage that you lost through lack of int.

 

How'd you have such AGI :( do you use AGI runes instead of INT in armors?

I totally agree. I rather crit more rather than crit hard especially in PVP. 

 

By the way, what's your opinion with vsing an Assassin now?

I switched to Warrior from Assassin becoz it got nerfed pretty badly, but they're is still as strong as ever with their kite powah.

I can only win against them if I hit knock them (which is friggin hard with them running) and chain stun him to Rage Strike.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:36 AM

Yeah i only use agi runes like since the beginning. You can get most of your int in cards, acc and hones. Titles are also good.

Well with assassins will always be superior in PvP, with their low cd stuns and fast attacks. Try going for a lvl 10 Battle leap, it only has a 10 sec cd and crits quite hard. You just have to be fast and good at aiming though.

And besides even if you have around 450-500 int youd still crit pretty hard, i mean the damage isnt a joke. :V

Edited by jhay1825, 29 April 2014 - 10:14 AM.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:47 AM

This is a great thread, thanks for sharing your insight.
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:53 AM

I totally agree. I rather crit more rather than crit hard especially in PVP. 

 

By the way, what's your opinion with vsing an Assassin now?

I switched to Warrior from Assassin becoz it got nerfed pretty badly, but they're is still as strong as ever with their kite powah.

I can only win against them if I hit knock them (which is friggin hard with them running) and chain stun him to Rage Strike.

 

The Crit. chance vs. crit. damage question isn't purely about personal preference, but also about general effectiveness. The higher your crit. damage gets, the more likely it becomes that any additional crit. chance outweights a further damage boost.

 

In addition, since you might want to rely on Rage Strike crits., any damage beyond your opponent's max. HP value is plain useless. So rather than increasing that crit. damage mindlessly into an overkill, it's better to increase the chances to do so.

 

Duels against an Assassin,isn't that different to a fight against any other class. All try to stun you or to knock you down and then do whatever they prefer to kill you. An assassin has the advantage, that he can use his knockdown out of invisibility, so at least in duels, it isn't an easy fight. However, because the assassin only has one knockdown ability, he can't cast it in quick succession and it only has a duration of 3sec, you might even have a chance to fight back. So call it a weakness, if you want.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 02:10 AM

The Crit. chance vs. crit. damage question isn't purely about personal preference, but also about general effectiveness. The higher your crit. damage gets, the more likely it becomes that any additional crit. chance outweights a further damage boost.

 

In addition, since you might want to rely on Rage Strike crits., any damage beyond your opponent's max. HP value is plain useless. So rather than increasing that crit. damage mindlessly into an overkill, it's better to increase the chances to do so.

 

Duels against an Assassin,isn't that different to a fight against any other class. All try to stun you or to knock you down and then do whatever they prefer to kill you. An assassin has the advantage, that he can use his knockdown out of invisibility, so at least in duels, it isn't an easy fight. However, because the assassin only has one knockdown ability, he can't cast it in quick succession and it only has a duration of 3sec, you might even have a chance to fight back. So call it a weakness, if you want.

 

Really helpful information :3 Thanks!


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 01:12 PM

Updated for the Dark Whisper Patch.

 

Thanks for reading!


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:39 AM

Does the Agi-Int stat okay for this? I mean, how can you tank without VIT and damage without STR? just wondering. still a swordie at 25.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:48 AM

Warrior's strength is not on STR alone. INT ensures that you have the critical damage you need to stay in the top of the threat meter using the skill Battle Tactics. STR is pretty much covered from your gears as Warrior gears gives the most STR than any other class' gears can give. About VIT, your defense is already high that there's no need for more VIT. If you are seeking for more HP, Knight should be the better choice as it gives second best HP value in the game after BM.


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