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[Sakati]

Hello Guys,

 

 

is this combo okay or fail ?

 

 

[DrAzzy]

For what purpose? 

 

You are aware that ghostring does not reduce damage from normal attacks of monsters. Monster normal attacks specifically bypass reduction from ghost element (for balance reasons). 

[Qani]

Btw why doesn't Deviling reduce earthquake damage?

[DrAzzy]

It does?

[Havenn]

DR no longer reduces EQ (in renewal)

Edited by Havenn, 05 May 2014 - 11:01 AM.

[DrAzzy]

DR no longer reduces EQ (in renewal)

Woah. I did not know that...

[Havenn]

Took me awhile to believe it......but then after many tests I regretfully accepted that it doesn't =[

[Sakati]

Ghostring Card = Reduce a -25 % Damage is right? all ele

Devling = reduce damage neutral -50% but other ele is +50 %

Glorious Ring = -10 % all ele

 

 

is not right ?

[Havenn]

Ghostring Card = Only Neutral and only skills, not melee (does defend 25% of Earth quake)

Devling = Correct, defends neutral skills and melee by 50% - but does not reduce EQ - increases elemental damage to you by 50%

Glorious Ring =  I think -10% all besides Neutral

Edited by Havenn, 05 May 2014 - 11:34 AM.

[DrAzzy]

Havenn - my understanding was that it was monsters that were "special" with regards to neutral ele attacks not being reduced by GR. Last time I tested, all neutral attacks from players were reduced, melee or not. 

 

 

Ghostring Card = Reduce a -25 % Damage is right? all ele

Devling = reduce damage neutral -50% but other ele is +50 %

Glorious Ring = -10 % all ele

 

 

is not right ?

Almost totally wrong

 

Ghostring makes your armor Ghost 1 element http://irowiki.org/wiki/Element giving 30% reduction from neutral, and increasing damage taken from ghost attacks by 25%. Despite the 30% neutral reduc, the normal attacks of monsters ignore this reduction. Forced neutral monster skills like Critical Slash and Earthquake (and a few others) are effected by that 30% reduc.   These reductions stack multiplicatively with other modifiers

 

Deviling = -50% damage from neutral (EXCEPT EARTHQUAKE, according to Havenn), +50% damage from everything else. 

 

Glorious Ring = -10% damage from wind, water, fire, earth element attacks. 

 

Effect of DR and glorious ring stack additively (ie, with deviling and 2x glorious ring, you take (1-0.5)=50% from neutral, and (1+0.5-0.1*2) = 130% from wind/water/fire/earth, and 150% from shadow, holy, poison, and ghost. )

Edited by DrAzzy, 05 May 2014 - 11:39 AM.

[Sakati]

Okay nice guy.

 

But is Develing with Ghistring card okay or ?

 

are you sure the Ghostring Card ? this is melee and Skills....or is this new update onlye skill attack =?

[Havenn]

Havenn - my understanding was that it was monsters that were "special" with regards to neutral ele attacks not being reduced by GR. Last time I tested, all neutral attacks from players were reduced, melee or not. 

 

Ohhh, I did not know that. Thanks Azzy =D!

[DrAzzy]

Okay nice guy.

 

But is Develing with Ghistring card okay or ?

 

are you sure the Ghostring Card ? this is melee and Skills....or is this new update onlye skill attack =?

My understanding is that GR works with everything except melee from monsters.

 

DR and GR together doesn't make sense unless you have something specific in mind for it. What are you planning to use it for? 

 

It is certainly not what you should default in PVM, MVP, or WoE/PVP. 

Edited by DrAzzy, 05 May 2014 - 11:43 AM.

[Sakati]

I have GX and i have Develing card and i need the nice Combo with Develing Card.

Edited by Sakati, 05 May 2014 - 11:52 AM.

[DrAzzy]

Uh, put it in +9 HBP or FAW (depending on which suits you better - FAW is more versatile, but you have to reenchant it every time you change what stats you need from it). 

 

Default it on PVM, paired with elemental armor that will reduce damage from any particularly nasty skills the monsters you're fighting have (to counteract that +50% from elemental attacks effect of DR). 

 

To put it another way...

 

There is no one good thing to combo with DR - instead, your other gear is often dictated by trying to mitigate the weakness of the DR (where it would impact you), or if you have the luxury to, augment it's strengths by stacking more neutral resist. Immune shield is excellent with DR. 

 

And, of course, you need an immune in a good garment to use in situations where you can't use the DR (because of elemental attacks that you can't reduce enough to survive with the 50% penalty). 

[Tofu]

Deviling = -50% damage from neutral (EXCEPT EARTHQUAKE, according to Havenn), +50% damage from everything else.

To expand on this, Earthquake is no longer reduced by ANYTHING except for:
1. Element (ghost armor)
2. Energy Coat/Mental Strength
3. Damage split from multiple targets


Anything like Deviling, Raydric, Racial Shields, and Alice Card no longer affect Earthquake.