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#1 Tordiz

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 11:23 PM

Hiya. :D

I was thinking of making a Gank Rogue and i had a few ideas in mind when it comes to skills and stat distribution but the thing is that im totally new to Ragnarok online so this will be my first character i make and i could use some conformation/help with it.

This is the skills i was thinking of getting:

Thief:
Improve dodge 10
Double Attack 10
Steal 10
Hiding 5
Envenom 3
Detoxify 1

Rogue:
Gank 10
Stalk 5
Mug 10
Sightless mind 5
Backstab 10
Snatch 5
Intimidate 4[?] :(

And here are how i was thinking of putting the stats:

STR 84 (+6)
AGI 73 (+7)
DEX 53 (+7)
VIT 54 (+6)
INT 1 (+4)
LUK 1

Im not sure in what order i should distribute the stats though.

So what do you guys think, is it ok or not?

Oh and im not going to PvP with this character just PvM and if i do want to go pvp though i can just get some sort of reseting scrolls right? :(

oh and i read something about something called eden quests which apparently give you decent equips (if you're not founded and can't buy the gear you need that is) but well i dont know when or where to get them :D

Thanks in advance for any help or info you guys give me :unsure:
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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 11:11 AM

Ditch mug, it's TERRIBLE, max intimidate (which should have been translated as "imitate") instead.

That stat build looks pre-renewal though... You need less str now, and more dex to hit stuff.
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#3 Tordiz

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 12:20 PM

Ditch mug, it's TERRIBLE, max intimidate (which should have been translated as "imitate") instead.

That stat build looks pre-renewal though... You need less str now, and more dex to hit stuff.


ok so instead of mug i max intimidate actually i was thinking of having max mug too because i will get more money that way which is one of my main concerns at the moment and if i do want to lvl my rogue more serious in the future i could just reset the skills (theres a thing in kafra shop that lets you do that right?). should i take away like 10 str and put 10 more dex instead?

STR 74 (+6)
AGI 73 (+7)
DEX 63 (+7)
VIT 54 (+6)
INT 1 (+4)
LUK 1

like that, or should i have even lower str and higher dex?

Edited by Tordiz, 11 November 2010 - 02:13 AM.

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#4 DrAzzy

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:24 AM

Mug is terrible. Only get the prerequisite level. In the time you waste, standing next to a monster, repeatedly trying mug until it finally gives you 200-300 zeny, you could have killed another monster and gotten it's drops. It's also an SP-hog, and despite terrible real-world success rates, it uses SP whether you succeed or fail.
With say 500 max sp 1 int you'd regen 6 sp every 8 seconds, which means you have 2700 sp/hr to spend on skills, divide by 15, and that's 180 uses of mug. In practice, mug success rate is 10-20%, so that's 18-36 successful muggings, yielding a total of 3000-12000z (estimate, that's being generous). And, since you wasted ~180 seconds clicking mug, 5% of the hour, your exp rate is 5% lower, and you get 5% less money from drops (which will likely be more than what you made from mug). Finally, if you were fighting aggressive monsters, you have to tank them while you try to mug them, which will increase your potion use costs.

Hence, you make money faster not-using mug than you do using mug!

And, re: stats, looking at them now, i would be inclined to lose some of the vit - that's pretty high vit for an agi/dagger rogue. I'd commit to no more than 44+6 vit, maybe even 34+6, and put those points towards dex and agi. I'm honestly not sure whether or not that's enough dex, as i havn't leveled anything in the sub-99 level range since renewal.
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