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#1 Devistryke

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:39 PM

I recommend a 1 month special event service to bring back old players by offering a transfer service of characters created before Renewal. Just a suggestion.

 

This service would only be available to applicable characters (avoiding people using it as a leveling loop hole). Perfect for a Halloween theme- Ghosts of RO past.


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Posted 20 September 2014 - 07:18 PM

I am curious to how many players on Renewal or before would be interested in this service? 


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#3 Scrapie

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 07:30 PM

Depends how much this "special transfer offer" would actually cost, and how it is priced. (Per character, or per account)


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Posted 20 September 2014 - 07:33 PM

Can you clarify what you mean? The way I interpret it is that if I had a level 99 champ in prerenewal, I can transfer that to the classic server? 

 

If that's the case I would be interested in such a service. I think that might increase the WoE population of classic very easily. 


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#5 Devistryke

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 04:29 AM

Can you clarify what you mean? The way I interpret it is that if I had a level 99 champ in prerenewal, I can transfer that to the classic server? 

 

If that's the case I would be interested in such a service. I think that might increase the WoE population of classic very easily. 

That is exactly what I mean.

Also, I don't think there should be a price. Make it free, and prepare for more micro-transactions. Gravity's benefit here is gaining a higher population of competitive and meaningful players.

 

If you put a price on it, you're proposing to these players "either play a new game (GW2) for free, or pay to come back to a game you quit 5 years ago!"


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Posted 21 September 2014 - 05:41 AM

My proposal, but it's a lot of work for the GM team, would work like this:

 

Merge Ymir/Valkyrie characters right before Renewal (which was October 14 for Ymir and October 21 for Valkyrie) with the Classic server. 

 

Players have free access to these characters for a month. After that month kafra points or WPE have to be used to unlock the characters permanently. 


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Posted 21 September 2014 - 12:10 PM

I'd do it!


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#8 Devistryke

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 03:13 PM

My proposal, but it's a lot of work for the GM team, would work like this:

 

Merge Ymir/Valkyrie characters right before Renewal (which was October 14 for Ymir and October 21 for Valkyrie) with the Classic server. 

 

Players have free access to these characters for a month. After that month kafra points or WPE have to be used to unlock the characters permanently. 

Definitely a lot of work for the GM team, but I would do it, too. Great suggestion


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:10 AM

Sounds a very good idea!

 

This will be very enticing for old players who wanted to reminisce and meet old friends, but don't want to start from 1/1 novice. After a month they might get hooked again....  :rice:

 

Hopefully this will bring back experienced old players who can make WoE more interesting with their wealth of knowledge. They will be happier to play using their famous and legendary characters with all its glory, rather than remaking in new / not famous names. If they stay, give them 1 time stat/skill reset to adjust old characters with current WoE requirements.

 

Need extensive promotion though. A lot of veterans must be busy with work etc.

 

Also, if Gravity can bring them back, these veterans are people with loaded pockets who are more ready to spend cash compared to students / younger players.


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#10 Devistryke

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 12:05 PM

I wanted to add another thought: maybe offer character roll backs such that someone who tried renewal when it first launched could roll back from third class back to trans/2nd class. A majority of my old friends/guildmates/acquaintances quit after going 3rd class and disliking it (looking at you Makkarei).

@Oda, it's difficult to quantify how many would come back, but I would make a personal effort to bring back all of my old friends/guildmates/acquaintances (glaring at you Makkarei).


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Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:32 PM

Question. How would that proposal effect current players of classic who quit right after renewal hit? Would we be able to being our chars over too?
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Posted 30 September 2014 - 06:43 AM

Question. How would that proposal effect current players of classic who quit right after renewal hit? Would we be able to being our chars over too?

 

I don't see why current classic players shouldn't be allowed to use the service. Again, the point of this is to generate more valuable (revenue generating) activity on the classic server.

 

Personally, I think a good start to the stipulations should be: "Transferred characters will be returned to their base and job level as of October 14 for Ymir and October 21 for Valkyrie. Character's effective levels after these dates will be rolled back. Various classic items will be allowed in the transfer up to the amount a character can equip + 3 additional inventory items and 1m Zeny per base level; however, no god items, or boss monster cards". 

 

These stipulations offer balanced means for retired and current players to re-engage in RO without harming current player's experiences.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 08:10 AM

I am curious to how many players on Renewal or before would be interested in this service? 

 

I would definitely be interested in playing on Classic if I could get my characters from Loki or Ymir transfered to Classic. I have a lot of high level characters on the Renewal server that were 99/70 or 9x trans when renewal hit, but the problem is that I changed some of them into renewal classes and they're 1xx now. Do you still have character databases from before renewal? I'd definitely be interested in having those transfered to classic because I couldn't bear the grind to get back into the game when I joined Classic two years ago or whenever it was that it started.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 02:39 PM

That would be a good idea as long as it's the character only and nothing more >.< (gear/items etc)


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Posted 21 October 2014 - 07:21 PM

As one who left after Renewal, I still check these forums a few times a year for threads like this. I would gladly say I would come back. I enjoyed this game so much more than all the other MMOs I've tried since then. I have yet to find another game I could just log in and stay logged in practically an entire day, either just chatting or leveling during events, and even when I could not, to at least hop on for WoE. It's really about time invested at this point, starting from scratch on Classic is just out of the question for me considering I'd never be able to replicate all my characters and gear I've worked hard on since open beta, and even more frustrating is that the other option is to re-adjusting to a version you don't enjoy just to avoid letting 7 years of hard work sit and rot for 4 years and pine for the old days.


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Posted 21 October 2014 - 11:30 PM

I also like the idea! I'm not affected myself, but it would certainly bring more people back to classic.

 

 

That would be a good idea as long as it's the character only and nothing more >.< (gear/items etc)

I'd actually say:

 

If people DID quit before renewal and never logged in during renewal, they should be granted the right to take over some items. Like currently equipped gear but no MVP cards / god items and no storage / zeny.

 

If people actually played a bit during renewal, but quit shortly afterwards, they should still be allowed to transfer to classic, but in that case only the character and no gear/items at all.

 

I'm not sure about people who actually got 3rd job. Reverting them to 99/70 seems to be really hard to do (and might cause exploits). If they are "trans" 3rd job, I could imagine making them 1/1 High Novice, though...


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 08:18 AM

A naked character would be far easier to transfer and check than a geared one for terms of abuse with items/equips etc.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 10:18 AM

The GMs could probably create a pre-made set of gear to put on peoples accounts when they get a transfer done. Nothing overly fancy and probably account bound, but stuff like the rentals we had at launch. Strong enough to be useful to get straight into the game but replaceable enough.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:25 PM

I am curious to how many players on Renewal or before would be interested in this service? 

Maybe if you only allowed transferring characters from old servers (Loki, Ymir...) to classic, if that's even possible. Otherwise people will just be making 99/70 characters in a day on renewal and transfer them to classic. Which would be way broken...


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 07:45 PM

Maybe if you only allowed transferring characters from old servers (Loki, Ymir...) to classic, if that's even possible. Otherwise people will just be making 99/70 characters in a day on renewal and transfer them to classic. Which would be way broken...

 

Assuming you can't do the same on Classic? It's actually FASTER on Classic with a bit of knowhow and a couple BMX3s.


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Posted 23 October 2014 - 09:28 AM

We are discussing getting more/new player base. An unestablished player will level drastically faster on renewal. An established player on both servers, the renewal player will 99/70 faster if they choose to do prize medals. 


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 01:31 AM

Any news on whether this is happening or not? I'd gladly pay for it if you're doing it. I guess the interest was a bit too low to warant the effort though...

 

That would be a good idea as long as it's the character only and nothing more >.< (gear/items etc)

I actually think that's a bad idea as it would only benefit people who actually play on Classic and have gear already. It would take at least a year of intense grinding to get all of the stuff I had on Loki, and I didn't even have any really amazing things. But you know how your storage builds up over the years with various things? I think the only sensible item restrictions are a zeny limit, mini boss cards, MVP cards, god items and god item ingredients.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 11:56 AM

We are discussing getting more/new player base. An unestablished player will level drastically faster on renewal. An established player on both servers, the renewal player will 99/70 faster if they choose to do prize medals. 

 

Does anyone really care about how fast people lvl anymore?
 

I suggest allowing anyone to transfer over 99 trans and under characters naked with no items or zeny.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 06:08 PM

If it helps the server, do it.  I don't see a negative in this.

 

99/70 Trans on Renewal? Transfer character over with no items or zeny to classic.  That's obviously going to make classic pop.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 10:44 PM

Does anyone really care about how fast people lvl anymore?
 

I suggest allowing anyone to transfer over 99 trans and under characters naked with no items or zeny.

 

 

If it helps the server, do it.  I don't see a negative in this.

 

99/70 Trans on Renewal? Transfer character over with no items or zeny to classic.  That's obviously going to make classic pop.

 

The thing though is that a big part of the grind in RO is getting all of the items you need to make your characters useful. Sure, 99/70 characters are somewhat strong as they are, but they're useless in many ways without gear(for example in WoE).

 

I think they should at least allow the transfer of items that don't break the economy. I'm totally okay with restrictions on MVP and mini-boss cards, god items, god item ingredients and a zeny cap(50 mil maybe?). Even if I got my characters back what am I supposed to do with them if they're naked?


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