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[Kiruu]

@200
-What are the ideal items for a pvp raider to acquire?
-How much do you think in total you'd spend on this ideal equips? Estimates may do (Leonis)

I know most of the guys here dont wanna share their stats so Im just asking you guys what are the ideal equips for a PvP katar raider, I repeat ideal equips not your equips per se cause I know you wont share it anyway


Thanks

[Viceking]

need 1b+ get chiva set(10)
remforced set 40/10 still work also high pricey

if your start the game you better go with a champ more easy,cheap

[Kiruu]

need 1b+ get chiva set(10)
remforced set 40/10 still work also high pricey

if your start the game you better go with a champ more easy,cheap

Yeah but champs arent for PvP in my experience

so your saying a chiva set (10) would cost about 2b
and as for the others (Weapon and Gems) around 1b

TOTAL: 3b

Am I correct?

[Blitzkrieg]

Yeah but champs arent for PvP in my experience

Rofl

[Kiruu]

Rofl

What I meant was from my experience although champs are cheap, theyre not ideal for PvP but in return theyre pretty good when it comes to PvE

[Span]

What I meant was from my experience although champs are cheap, theyre not ideal for PvP but in return theyre pretty good when it comes to PvE

Depends on their build .

[Viceking]

hmmm champ beat a raider close eye.......

[Kiruu]

Depends on their build .

Yep but in my opinion Raiders and Knights are the best class for PvP so thats why Im asking you guys the estimates or rough estimates on how much a raider would spend in order to become decent (not too godly but at least can withstand players attacks)

Edited by Kiruu, 12 November 2010 - 09:56 PM.

[Span]

hmmm champ beat a raider close eye.......

Try pvping with a pvm build champ i bet raiders smash them ... its about build

[Span]

Yep but in my opinion Raiders and Knights are the best class for PvP so thats why Im asking you guys the estimates or rough estimates on how much a raider would spend in order to become decent (not too godly but at least can withstand players attacks)

With buff sets ... approx 20b .

[Viceking]

Try pvping with a pvm build champ i bet raiders smash them ... its about build

hmmm he talking about pvp nor pvm failed?

[Kiruu]

With buff sets ... approx 20b .

Dont you think thats a bit much? cause I asked some raider guys in-game and they told me if your a katar raider then you could just settle for those glorious ones cause the chivas ones are mostly for Dual Raiders

Oh btw if your referring to the blessings (marksmen, intense etc..) with what you said "buff sets" then I dont think I have a problem with those cause I could spare some cash and just buy them in the IM

[Viceking]

nah buff set is not about item mall stuff........ i pass my turn for explain

[Kiruu]

nah buff set is not about item mall stuff........ i pass my turn for explain

Damn Dude how are you gonna rack up 20b if it really is 20b...Damn thats alot of cash

[Span]

Buff sets r items that enhances ur buff effects ... For example champion's HP buff adds 20% hp , if u wear gears that adds more hp and buff u get more hp when u change back to the original gear . So... u might need chivalrous for AP buff , precious for speed buff , glorious for dodge , and some other things .

[Blitzkrieg]

With buff sets ... approx 20b .

i doubt it will take 20b
considering
7.5b ......for main set +15s (head,boots,gloves,wep,back)
300 mill for every jewel set (1.5 bil considering he has 5)
around 200mill for all masks he will own
some 3 more billion here and there
i still dont think he will need 20b
13-14b shud be more than enuf
UNLESS HE WANT HIS BUFFSETS TO BE +15 TOO...it might take 20bill in that case

[BrownBear]

You seem misinformed about champs. Anyways, lets run down the list that you seem to think is super secret:

Gear:
Balanced Glacier Knuckles - highest priority to refine. Gem is up to you; D7, M7, J7, SQ7, SA7 are all solid options.
Full Chiv set- AP buff, combat
Full Glor set - dodge buff, accuracy buff, combat
Precious Chest and Gloves - mspeed buff
Winged Top Hat + 40 mspeed - mspeed buff
Brave Steel Resolve Boots - mspeed buff, combat
Full Reinforced set (can skip gloves) - HP buff
Any attack speed gear (refined precious, dark) - combat

Whatever you pick to actually fight with is only what you need to refine. Feel free to mix and match as well. HP gear has the lowest priority among all these. The attack speed gear is if you choose to specialize in attack speed. Ideally, the stuff you fight with needs to be as highly refined as you can make it, with priority going to the weapon.

Jewels:
Union Ring, Lava Necklace & Earring + D7s - AP buff
Sea Ring & Earring, Shadow Necklace + J7s - dodge buff
Deadshot Ring, Lava Necklace & Earring + M7s - accuracy buff
Typhoon Set + Sagi Stone - mspeed buff
Cliff Set + A7 - HP buff
Typhoon Set + P7 - combat

What you fight with is you choice. Again, feel free to mix and match. You can even make a separate set specifically for all-around combat (think wars), which is what I do for any character. I normally make a typhoon set with the gems that compliment my build and gear and use those in wars, where mspeed is very important. The HP set again has the lowest priority. The attack speed set is if you choose to specialize in attack speed.

Back Items:
Raptor Backshield + 30/30, 50 dodge, 600 HP, etc - buffing and combat
Eudy Wings + 50 dodge, 40 mspeed, etc - buffing and combat
Item Mall wings + 40 mspeed - mspeed buff, combat
Ikaness Worker Backpack + 40 acc - accuracy buff
Dr. Back Arms - AP buff, combat

Naturally, only refine what you will fight with. If you only buff with it, don't waste your resources refining it. This is a broad variety of stats you can get with your back items, so it is hard to list all the possibilities. If you find something that suits your build and play-style, just go with it. For buffing you want the highest stats possible(40 accuracy, 50 dodge, etc), but for combat a mixture of stats is better (like 30ap/30accuracy, etc).

Masks:
Rat Tail Mustache - mspeed buff
Beard + 40 AP - AP buff, combat
Jolly Front Mask + 40 accuracy - accuracy buff
Mask of Lies + 50 dodge - dodge buff, combat
Flu Mask + 600 HP - HP buff

Masks are very similar to backshields. There are many possible combinations. The highest stat ones are best suited for buffing, while the mixed stat ones will be nice for combat (especially in wars). HP takes lowest priority again. Get an attack speed mask if that is what you specialize in.

Price - a lot.

All accuracy sets can be used in combat as well, but they will only benefit you against other hawkers.

Tactics are very important when playing any PvP character. Just learn your character and you will start to understand what you need and don't need.

Edited by BrownBear, 13 November 2010 - 06:02 AM.

[Kiruu]

i doubt it will take 20b
considering
7.5b ......for main set +15s (head,boots,gloves,wep,back)
300 mill for every jewel set (1.5 bil considering he has 5)
around 200mill for all masks he will own
some 3 more billion here and there
i still dont think he will need 20b
13-14b shud be more than enuf
UNLESS HE WANT HIS BUFFSETS TO BE +15 TOO...it might take 20bill in that case

Im not aspiring that I'd get all my equips to +15 though (like I said not godlike but at least decent/average)

How bout like this guys: (As for now, I'll upgrade them later on if I get to farm more money)
-Chiva Suit (0) - AP Buff
-Glorious for head, gloves and shoes (0) - Dodge Buff

Jewels & Accesories:
Lava set w/ D7 - AP Buff

Back item:
Raptor Backshield - More Survivabilty (HP and Dodge)

Mask:
Mask of Lies - Dodge Buff

So what u guys think? Viable or not?

Edited by Kiruu, 13 November 2010 - 08:32 AM.

[Viceking]

You seem misinformed about champs. Anyways, lets run down the list that you seem to think is super secret:

Gear:
Balanced Glacier Knuckles - highest priority to refine. Gem is up to you; D7, M7, J7, SQ7, SA7 are all solid options.
Full Chiv set- AP buff, combat
Full Glor set - dodge buff, accuracy buff, combat
Precious Chest and Gloves - mspeed buff
Winged Top Hat + 40 mspeed - mspeed buff
Brave Steel Resolve Boots - mspeed buff, combat
Full Reinforced set (can skip gloves) - HP buff
Any attack speed gear (refined precious, dark) - combat

Whatever you pick to actually fight with is only what you need to refine. Feel free to mix and match as well. HP gear has the lowest priority among all these. The attack speed gear is if you choose to specialize in attack speed. Ideally, the stuff you fight with needs to be as highly refined as you can make it, with priority going to the weapon.

Jewels:
Union Ring, Lava Necklace & Earring + D7s - AP buff
Sea Ring & Earring, Shadow Necklace + J7s - dodge buff
Deadshot Ring, Lava Necklace & Earring + M7s - accuracy buff
Typhoon Set + Sagi Stone - mspeed buff
Cliff Set + A7 - HP buff
Typhoon Set + P7 - combat

What you fight with is you choice. Again, feel free to mix and match. You can even make a separate set specifically for all-around combat (think wars), which is what I do for any character. I normally make a typhoon set with the gems that compliment my build and gear and use those in wars, where mspeed is very important. The HP set again has the lowest priority. The attack speed set is if you choose to specialize in attack speed.

Back Items:
Raptor Backshield + 30/30, 50 dodge, 600 HP, etc - buffing and combat
Eudy Wings + 50 dodge, 40 mspeed, etc - buffing and combat
Item Mall wings + 40 mspeed - mspeed buff, combat
Ikaness Worker Backpack + 40 acc - accuracy buff
Dr. Back Arms - AP buff, combat

Naturally, only refine what you will fight with. If you only buff with it, don't waste your resources refining it. This is a broad variety of stats you can get with your back items, so it is hard to list all the possibilities. If you find something that suits your build and play-style, just go with it. For buffing you want the highest stats possible(40 accuracy, 50 dodge, etc), but for combat a mixture of stats is better (like 30ap/30accuracy, etc).

Masks:
Rat Tail Mustache - mspeed buff
Beard + 40 AP - AP buff, combat
Jolly Front Mask + 40 accuracy - accuracy buff
Mask of Lies + 50 dodge - dodge buff, combat
Flu Mask + 600 HP - HP buff

Masks are very similar to backshields. There are many possible combinations. The highest stat ones are best suited for buffing, while the mixed stat ones will be nice for combat (especially in wars). HP takes lowest priority again. Get an attack speed mask if that is what you specialize in.

Price - a lot.

All accuracy sets can be used in combat as well, but they will only benefit you against other hawkers.

Tactics are very important when playing any PvP character. Just learn your character and you will start to understand what you need and don't need.

wow that was a long post usefull no secret anymore loll

[Kiruu]

Ok I got a Chiva Suit (10) w/ D7 for 400m now all thats left is to buy the gloves, head and shoes

What do you guys think about this:
Glorious Raptor Head
Glorious Raptor Gloves
Precious Raptor Shoes

[Blitzkrieg]

You seem misinformed about champs. Anyways, lets run down the list that you seem to think is super secret:

Gear:
Balanced Glacier Knuckles - highest priority to refine. Gem is up to you; D7, M7, J7, SQ7, SA7 are all solid options.
Full Chiv set- AP buff, combat
Full Glor set - dodge buff, accuracy buff, combat
Precious Chest and Gloves - mspeed buff
Winged Top Hat + 40 mspeed - mspeed buff
Brave Steel Resolve Boots - mspeed buff, combat
Full Reinforced set (can skip gloves) - HP buff
Any attack speed gear (refined precious, dark) - combat

Whatever you pick to actually fight with is only what you need to refine. Feel free to mix and match as well. HP gear has the lowest priority among all these. The attack speed gear is if you choose to specialize in attack speed. Ideally, the stuff you fight with needs to be as highly refined as you can make it, with priority going to the weapon.

Jewels:
Union Ring, Lava Necklace & Earring + D7s - AP buff
Sea Ring & Earring, Shadow Necklace + J7s - dodge buff
Deadshot Ring, Lava Necklace & Earring + M7s - accuracy buff
Typhoon Set + Sagi Stone - mspeed buff
Cliff Set + A7 - HP buff
Typhoon Set + P7 - combat

What you fight with is you choice. Again, feel free to mix and match. You can even make a separate set specifically for all-around combat (think wars), which is what I do for any character. I normally make a typhoon set with the gems that compliment my build and gear and use those in wars, where mspeed is very important. The HP set again has the lowest priority. The attack speed set is if you choose to specialize in attack speed.

Back Items:
Raptor Backshield + 30/30, 50 dodge, 600 HP, etc - buffing and combat
Eudy Wings + 50 dodge, 40 mspeed, etc - buffing and combat
Item Mall wings + 40 mspeed - mspeed buff, combat
Ikaness Worker Backpack + 40 acc - accuracy buff
Dr. Back Arms - AP buff, combat

Naturally, only refine what you will fight with. If you only buff with it, don't waste your resources refining it. This is a broad variety of stats you can get with your back items, so it is hard to list all the possibilities. If you find something that suits your build and play-style, just go with it. For buffing you want the highest stats possible(40 accuracy, 50 dodge, etc), but for combat a mixture of stats is better (like 30ap/30accuracy, etc).

Masks:
Rat Tail Mustache - mspeed buff
Beard + 40 AP - AP buff, combat
Jolly Front Mask + 40 accuracy - accuracy buff
Mask of Lies + 50 dodge - dodge buff, combat
Flu Mask + 600 HP - HP buff

Masks are very similar to backshields. There are many possible combinations. The highest stat ones are best suited for buffing, while the mixed stat ones will be nice for combat (especially in wars). HP takes lowest priority again. Get an attack speed mask if that is what you specialize in.

Price - a lot.

All accuracy sets can be used in combat as well, but they will only benefit you against other hawkers.

Tactics are very important when playing any PvP character. Just learn your character and you will start to understand what you need and don't need.

if this was a topic i wud demand sticky
a whole lot of very useful info there

[BrownBear]

Ok I got a Chiva Suit (10) w/ D7 for 400m now all thats left is to buy the gloves, head and shoes

What do you guys think about this:
Glorious Raptor Head
Glorious Raptor Gloves
Precious Raptor Shoes

Sooner or later you are going to have to get everything I listed. Just get them in whatever order is most convenient for you, then play around to see what works best. What setup to use all comes down to how your stats look at the end (with all your gear on). If you lack in some places, it might be better to ditch any effort to increase those stats or it might be better to get some items to increase those stats. I can't blindly tell you do this and that.

The things you listed sound like an okay option. There are many variables so it isn't like I can say this is going to rock or anything, but on paper it looks okay. Is it possible that it completely owns? Yes.
If it were me and I wanted to use glorious head and gloves, I would probably use glorious chest instead of the chivalrous chest. But that is just me and I encourage you to try different things because that is the best way to learn. I like how you wanted to use the precious boots, shows that you know mspeed is important. Raider is all about the hit and run.

Edited by BrownBear, 14 November 2010 - 05:33 AM.

[poopiehead]

wow that was a long post usefull no secret anymore loll

how was that EVER a secret is a mystery to me...

[Span]

how was that EVER a secret is a mystery to me...

He's too retarded to know anything , seems like everything in game is a mystery to him .

[poopiehead]

He's too retarded to know anything , seems like everything in game is a mystery to him .

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