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#1 kamoteee

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:20 AM

Like the title says, I'd like to ask if the Rogue skill "Smoke Bomb" is usable in PvP.

If yes, would it cancel the fight immediately or would it still grant you the "Hide" status without compromising the match?

(I'm kinda feeling stupid asking this question. :hmm: LOL :heh: )

Any explanations would be highly appreciated.
 


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 07:04 AM

In PVP it gives you hide without compromising the match.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:08 PM

Wow...Is it... For real? :p_omg: 

*sigh... Good to hear... That's a relief...

Ohh, one more thing I'd like to ask...

I've been reading other posts regarding the combo cycle of the Rogue class, and I noticed that they haven't included the Smoke Bomb skill...

Is it because the skill itself has a disadvantage? And if not, what would be the best sequence of skills including the Smoke Bomb in the Combo Cycle?


 


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:23 PM

Based on what I know (I don't play my rogue), you want to save it for dealing a double damage Moonlight Dance. Normally, Hide resets combo points to zero, so I assume you can only do Smoke Bomb+Moonlight after Combo Mastery activates. Since it activates by chance, you wouldn't normally see it in the rotation.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 05:30 PM

What would be the Pros and Cons in using the "Smoke Bomb" skill? And on what type of situations can it be suitable for use while in PvP?
 


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 05:46 PM

Smoke Bomb is a support ace skill for Rogues. It can be used for offence and defence.

 

For offense, such combos deals high damages:

[Smoke Bomb + Double Attack x2 dmg]

[Smoke Bomb + Dual Stab x2 dmg]

[Smoke Bomb + Cross Impact x2 dmg],

[Smoke Bomb w/ active Combo Mastery buff + Crescent Moon x2 dmg + stun],

[Smoke Bomb w/ active Combo Mastery buff + Deadly Blow x2 dmg],
[Smoke Bomb w/ active Combo Mastery buff + Moonlight Dance x2 dmg],

 

For defence (especially against for those Magic users that has dot damage debuff capabilities ~ Priests/Wizards)
example of combo:
[Combo Mastery buff/Full Combo bar + Gangster's Paradise + Smoke Bomb] ~ Smoke Bomb grants 3 seconds invincibility/invulnerability

 

As far as i know, Hide skill from Smoke Bomb usually fades fast if you have a dot damage debuff from the opponent (especially mobs)
Also, i think Mark of Death debuff that you injected to the opponent cancels out if Smoke Bomb is used
In PvE, Threat generation to mobs resets if Smoke Bomb is used (except if you continuously use dot pet)

 

Go play your rogue to gain more experience, it's just a matter of creativity playing different combat classes.  :yawn:  :heh: 


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 06:07 PM

Smoke Bomb is a support ace skill for Rogues. It can be used for offence and defence.

 

For offense, such combos deals high damages:

[Smoke Bomb + Double Attack x2 dmg]

[Smoke Bomb + Dual Stab x2 dmg]

[Smoke Bomb + Cross Impact x2 dmg],

[Smoke Bomb w/ active Combo Mastery buff + Crescent Moon x2 dmg + stun],

[Smoke Bomb w/ active Combo Mastery buff + Deadly Blow x2 dmg],
[Smoke Bomb w/ active Combo Mastery buff + Moonlight Dance x2 dmg],

 

For defence (especially against for those Magic users that has dot damage debuff capabilities ~ Priests/Wizards)
example of combo:
[Combo Mastery buff/Full Combo bar + Gangster's Paradise + Smoke Bomb] ~ Smoke Bomb grants 3 seconds invincibility/invulnerability

 

As far as i know, Hide skill from Smoke Bomb usually fades fast if you have a dot damage debuff from the opponent (especially mobs)
Also, i think Mark of Death debuff that you injected to the opponent cancels out if Smoke Bomb is used
In PvE, Threat generation to mobs resets if Smoke Bomb is used (except if you continuously use dot pet)

 

Go play your rogue to gain more experience, it's just a matter of creativity playing different combat classes.  :yawn:  :heh:

So that means, if I use "Smoke Bomb", It won't be cancelled by any AoE skill?

EDIT: As what I've heard from others, AoE skills are more likely to cancel your "Hide" status if you're hit by them.
 


Edited by kamoteee, 28 October 2014 - 06:10 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 07:57 PM

If you maxed out smoke bomb to level 6 you'll have 5 seconds of invulnerability.


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