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#26 Facekiller

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 08:41 PM

buncha scruffy looking nerfherders....


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#27 hoikarnage

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:12 PM

try using the "they call themselves that so i can too" argument with other races and let me know how it works out for ya....

 

There is a big difference. For example, black people aren't opening casinos called "n-word Casinos," the way Native Americans open Indian casinos with slot machines with such names as "Cowboys vs Indians, Indian Dreams, and Indian Rain Dance."

 

It probably varies depending on the tribe though. It's not fair to say all native Americans think alike.


Edited by hoikarnage, 23 November 2014 - 09:13 PM.

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#28 LouisLu

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:52 PM

Why not name the monster "Familiar" to "Bat"? And "Dranier" to "Red Bat"?
Same concepts dude.
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#29 Sizzleboom

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:58 PM

Dear lawrd, to think even on the WarpPortal Forums you can come across awful cultural marxist threads about avoiding unjust offence. And the people who turn to educated apologetics are even worse. :sob:


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#30 LouisLu

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:05 PM

Yea.
Insane.
Did you know?

Amastu = Japan
Gonryun = Taiwan
Luoyang = China
Moscovia = Russia
Einbroch = Germany
Ayotaya = Thailand
Brasil = Brazil
Dews = Indonesia
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#31 LouisLu

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:08 PM

There is a reason why names are not important or critical in RO. You should prob ask your history teacher, when you play RO you don't think about your history class. However when you are in your history class you better not think about RO. Otherwise your parent will probably be upset.
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#32 Sizzleboom

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:12 PM

I also assume Morroc is really Morrocco. You can learn to be a thief there, after all.


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#33 hoikarnage

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:15 PM

Yea.
Insane.
Did you know?

Amastu = Japan
Gonryun = Taiwan
Luoyang = China
Moscovia = Russia
Einbroch = Germany
Ayotaya = Thailand
Brasil = Brazil
Dews = Indonesia

 

You forgot the most important one. Payon = Korea.

 

And Eden = Walmart.


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#34 xLoli

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:17 PM

I'm joining Jaye to be a Wanderer.

 

Seriously though, if you want to know what to call someone, ask the individual. No matter what you say, someone will always be offended.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:20 PM

You are WRONG! Eden is not Walmart!

Eden is "Starbucks"!!!!! It's worldwide !!
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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:22 PM

Then where is my Pumpkin Spiced Latte?

 

Oh wait, there is a PSL box...


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:43 PM

I'm referring to the linguistic label. It's the correct definition.

 

In other cultures (remember this is not American RO, this is International RO), either "Indian" or "American Indian" is used to qualify certain things as having stemmed from that specific culture. Those are the only terms that can be used without running into problems with interpretation. Using the terms "native" or "indigenous" to absolutely anyone not having grown up in North America means nothing, as not everyone is North American and not everyone is aware of the country's history. They may not understand it and they shouldn't be expected to.

 

Random question for you, but where does the Didgeridoo come from? Which culture? Be honest to whether or not you know.

 

And if you really wanted to be PC about it, the name should be "Indigenous peoples of the Americas' Feather Headband".

 

Didgeridoo, is aboriginal no?


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 12:05 AM

Didgeridoo, is aboriginal no?

 

Hehe you fell for it.

 

"Aboriginal" is the same as "Indian" in the sense that it is the common term for the indigenous peoples native to both of our cultures. They prefer to be called "Indigenous Australians" or by their tribal name, but pretty much no one outside of Australia knows that or cares. To the international community, they are "Aboriginal".

 

QED. We are an international server and we need to be internationally accessible.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 12:11 AM

why not just drop the Indian part of the name and be done with it... its still a feather headband...


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:04 AM

Yea.
Insane.
Did you know?

Amastu = Japan
Gonryun = Taiwan
Luoyang = China
Moscovia = Russia
Einbroch = Germany
Ayotaya = Thailand
Brasil = Brazil
Dews = Indonesia

Port Malaya = Philippines

 


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:32 AM

 

Yea.
Insane.
Did you know?

Amastu = Japan
Gonryun = Taiwan
Luoyang = China
Moscovia = Russia
Einbroch = Germany
Ayotaya = Thailand
Brasil = Brazil
Dews = Indonesia

Port Malaya = Philippines

 

 

Port Malaria.


Edited by Sizzleboom, 24 November 2014 - 01:34 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 06:07 AM

i liked original korea payon better.
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Posted 24 November 2014 - 07:49 AM

Yea.
Insane.
Did you know?

Amastu = Japan
Gonryun = Taiwan
Luoyang = China
Moscovia = Russia
Einbroch = Germany
Ayotaya = Thailand
Brasil = Brazil
Dews = Indonesia

 

Pretty sure einbroch was meant to be the USA. The kRO devs hinted as much =| And it also conforms to the steroeotype of USA = cowboys, to eastern countries. What with gunslingers and blacksmiths being stationed there.


Edited by Jaye, 24 November 2014 - 07:50 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 08:45 AM

I did think it was a little strange to have a headgear implemented that was attached to a culture that does not exist within the fiction of the game. The sombrero also falls under this category. 

 

It also is incongruous to how many of the other headgears are named. For instance the Sakkat isn't called the "Asian bamboo hat" and the Cowboy Hat isn't called the "American felt hat".

 

The more appropriate thing would be to match those headgears and to give the hat its proper name within the culture that it originates from. The Indian Feather Hairband name makes more sense in the context of it being developed for a Korean game whose audience may not know the specific culture that it represents, but for here "Chief's War Bonnet" or "Feather Headdress" would be more interesting names. 

 

Also as a Social Justice High Priest I am proudly hella "culturally marxist" 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 09:52 AM

Social Justice High Priest

                 proudly hella "culturally marxist" 

 

These are objectively the worst ever (dis)qualifications to give yourself. But as long as you're an SJW only in word and simply a cool community manager in deed, everything is all sugar and spice and everything nice.


Edited by Sizzleboom, 24 November 2014 - 09:54 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 10:28 AM

lol social justice warriors.
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Posted 24 November 2014 - 10:50 AM

I feel like I should be offended even though I'm not at all. Therefore I will white knight for people who probably don't even care.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 10:52 AM

I like how these things are always just trolls trying to troll trolls getting trolled by trolls. Like 99% of the population on any side of these arguments are just people being a**holes and it's awesome. Almost no one cares about this s***


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 11:03 AM

Pretty sure einbroch was meant to be the USA. The kRO devs hinted as much =| And it also conforms to the steroeotype of USA = cowboys, to eastern countries. What with gunslingers and blacksmiths being stationed there.

 

in any case it's not supposed to be germany. hugel is supposed to be germany.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 11:24 AM

Hehe you fell for it.

 

"Aboriginal" is the same as "Indian" in the sense that it is the common term for the indigenous peoples native to both of our cultures. They prefer to be called "Indigenous Australians" or by their tribal name, but pretty much no one outside of Australia knows that or cares. To the international community, they are "Aboriginal".

 

QED. We are an international server and we need to be internationally accessible.

 

Lets remember that the word itself "Aboriginal" is a form of racism and structural inequality. For the sake of people like me studying social sciences we have to make sure to add on as saying "Aboriginal people", or, "Aboriginal Australians" or else big penalty in marks when we do essays and such :sob:


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