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[Meolla]

I have created a build based on forum treads i read so far:
http://www.requiendium.com/?bid=10676

I'm not a pro in this game, in fact I'm still 30+ noob but still need a build for future reskill.
My question is, this build is normal for pve, or is it bad? Should I change something in it to be more pveish? And is there any real difference between those two builds?
I have still few points unallocated where to put them?
And final question is my build - crap? =) Joking, it's relevant...

Quick summary:
Soul Hunter:

• 1 Attack of Curse filler
• 1 Bloody Arrow pull? do i need it at all?
• 1 Vampiric Touch just 1 for healing
• 0 Rake Nail should I get 1 point here for second pull?
• 1 Summon Illusion just for getting 1 safe hit
• 10 Invisibility
• 0 Blessing of Wind should I spend points here at all?

Defiler:

• 1 Blood Moon filler
• 1 Bloody Spear filler
• 10 Arrow of Ruin
• 10 Deadly Bomb it seems to be pvp skill, should it be 10 here?
• 1 Curse of Restoration filler for Terms of Service
• 7 Terms of Service
• 7 Deadly Fog
• 5 Curse Effect
• 7 Blood Storm
• 5 Binding Soul

DNA:

• 10 Strengthened Invisibility
• 3 Range Arrow of Ruin range aoe pull
• 1 Strengthened Curse Effect for 100 more damage
• 5 Strengthened Deadly Bomb

[Syre]

Take 6 DNA extended Deadly FOg + Blood Storm
13 pts leftover, can spend in 10 strengthened arrow of ruin + 3 range arrow of ruin

I put 10 deadly bomb, 1 curse effect, 1 strengthened arrow of ruin






Yes take 1 in rake nail for damage...
You have extra points you can max binding soul or curse effect. Can also drop evasion buff and max fear and binding.

[TigerNinja]

Whats going on with the DNA? :3.

IMHO, because I pt alot and have a fetish for dying miserably in JS pt's and popping aeds, this is DNA:
5-7 Deadly Fog Extended
5-7 Blood Storm Extended
3 Range arrow of Ruin
1 Strengthen Arrow of Ruin
1 Strengthen Curse Effect
Remaining 6-10 points where you want them.

I skipped invisibility entirely right now, not feeling a difference; only thing I've noticed is that js mobs miss their stun less often on me, but since evasion has nothing to do with skill hits, something else is probably going on there.

Deadly Bomb I used to have maxed with max dna... thing is, right now I just have it as a level 1 filler, no DNA. Simply can't justify it after the changes to our ground DNAs, but I have enough open points that we'll see when I start pvp'ing again (damn you pumpkins).

Illusion.... just no. Trust me, as a defi you'll never only get 1 hit- its more like 8-10+ hits at a time. Illusion won't save ya, why waste a point?

Rake Nail i'd say yes, 1 point.

And I'd get shape of fear to level 8(or max even) for another CC in pvp. Very, very useful, and annoying as-_- to be on the receiving end of it when the defi has like 2 hp left, believe me. Other points I'd leave open for now until you get some ideas on where you'd like them.

[Alexandar]

Deadly bomb and invis Don`t waste skill and dna points on them , rake nail too you don`t need 2nd pull . Bloody arrow is spam skill max it
Eva sucks

[Syre]

Why would you max bloody arrow but not take rake nail as if you are short on points for some reason

[apathybehim]

I'd drop that 1 pt off of illusion. That's just a waste. It'd only last one hit vs mobs. Invisibility is a toss up for me. Seeing how you're building this for PvE I can see why you would want to spend some points on it, but I think you're better off spending points on other skills like maxing your fear or maybe even putting some to fury. I'd also drop Vampiric Touch. There's no point in only giving it 1. Use it for something else. If you're only goal is to PvE then I suggest focusing on your CC skills. Also, why not max your Binding Soul?

Edited by apathybehim, 15 November 2010 - 01:20 PM.

[TigerNinja]

Lol level 1 vamp touch is plenty for a defi... if it actually worked. Once they fix the damn bug with it, vamp touch + pots = near perma grind until you lag pulling or your Terms of Service fails.

[Meolla]

Thanks for your replies... I stick to invis because its % from your total evasion so it could be a lot, but from your words I guess it's still irrelevant.

I made few enhancements, is that looks better?
Link> Loiso Build v0.91

What mistakes I made this time? =)

Great response, Thanks everyone!!!

Soul Hunter:

• 1 Attack of Curse
• 1 Bloody Arrow
• 1 Rake Nail
• 10 Shape of Fear
• 5 Shadow Binding
• 10 Magic Mastery(Curse)

Defiler:

• 1 Blood Moon
• 1 Bloody Spear
• 10 Arrow of Ruin
• 10 Deadly Bomb
• 1 Curse of Restoration
• 7 Terms of Service
• 7 Deadly Fog
• 5 Curse Effect
• 7 Blood Storm
• 7 Binding Soul
• 5 Fury

DNA:

• 3 Range Arrow of Ruin range aoe pull
• 1 Strengthened Curse Effect for 100 more damage
• 10 Strengthened Deadly Bomb

[TigerNinja]

*Glares* dna is crap. Plz fix. FIX IT!!!!. Anyways.

[Syre]

Please do take vamp touch lvl 1..
You need aoe extension DNA as well. lvl 7 is the max for those and since you are pve you can drop bomb DNA, it is better spent in max strength arrow of ruin.
So Ray's DNA build is probably best which is
10 Strengthen Arrow of ruin
3 Range Arrow of ruin
6 Extended Bloody Storm
6 Deadly Fog

You see big evasion difference around/close to 20k but that takes investment in enchant slots which could better be spent on something else I would say.

Someone else may bring up the argument of dropping bomb for nuke points or whatever. Nuke is one target. Bomb is hitting on 8 targets and this is her pve build aka aoe grind build.

Edited by Syre, 16 November 2010 - 01:55 PM.

[Coors]

I'd also drop Vampiric Touch. There's no point in only giving it 1. Use it for something else.

lol? VT should only be a 1 point wonder for defilers...and theres much better dna to pick then wasting it on VT.