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#1 SimonSeville08

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 04:17 PM

right now, i have this as my skill build... don't know what to do with the remaining points... anyone can give me advice on where to spend them? tnx in advance http://ro2base.com/b...1.1.1/0.0.0.0.0


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#2 MingMei

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 05:57 PM

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instead of Mod i think 10 Crecent moon(for Fracture debuff) is better IMO, 

Hide 3 i think its worth it, problem i got with my rouge is mobility specially when i smoke bomb if the target runs i usually run out time to moonlight him

 

 

 


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 06:42 PM

right now, i have this as my skill build... don't know what to do with the remaining points... anyone can give me advice on where to spend them?

http://ro2base.com/b...1.1.1/0.0.0.0.0


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Posted 04 January 2015 - 02:24 AM

assuming you are not planning to reset your build,

get lvl 3 Hide, lvl 5 Unstopable doping, and that extra point can go into dirty plan / gangster paradise or anything else you want

 

btw , much respect for that lvl 6 rolling cutter


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Posted 04 January 2015 - 03:50 AM

Aconologia's work well for pvp, though I'll give you a reminder that not having a maxed party(MOG) buff >in a pvm situation< which people usually invite rogues for, might get you kicked.

 

Yes, I am one of those who kick people without maxed buffs before, sorreh  :heh:


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#6 MingMei

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 04:11 AM

i agree with Lostac about MoG 

 

IMO MoG is the only buff capable of actually increasing TOTAL damage output by 10%

SM buff only increases base MA/PA  

MOG is extra useful for those with crit multiplier like war/knight or Hide 2x damage

 

so why would anyone pass on a buff that is undeniably the best Offensive buff


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#7 SimonSeville08

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 04:42 AM

tnx for the replies so far guys ^^

for the rolling cutters, i maxed them for party grinding... for faster kills :D 

I plan to reset though once i'm at max level (now ml40 at upcoming patch) so that would take a while ... 

any more suggestions? :D

 


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Posted 04 January 2015 - 04:05 PM

tell us what  youre looking for or are more into for your build after you reset.

PvP (Colo / WoE / duels)?

PvE (Raids / Grinding / Farming) ?


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Posted 05 January 2015 - 05:31 AM

http://ro2base.com/b...1.1.1/0.0.0.0.0

 

U can simply change cross impact to max buff and mark of death to max cutter.....The reason max bomb and lvl 2 reset for safety..sometimes raid fail on grinding so u can simply save urself by smoke and laugh to them.....(joking  :p_laugh: )

 


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Posted 05 January 2015 - 03:11 PM

Who is the best rogue in this server?  :p_love:  :p_laugh:  :p_love:

 


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:45 AM

ok, tnx for the replies.... another question.. what title should i get for rogue? rudolph or wreath? :)

 


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 05:59 PM

Would it be fine to not get Mark of Death?


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#13 MingMei

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 06:50 PM

Rudolph 

i wouldnt recommend not getting Cross impact it would be your 1 shot skill for cloth types 

 

i dont have much exp using MoD as a Rouge i dropped it after trying it for a while 

that 20% is indeed a great boost 

duration and CD is a turn off though

Which makes it very situational 

- you dont need it against cloths without +20

- 10sec is short since there are a lot of factor that could counter act it, Shield Runes Proc, CCs 

- the best situation i think would be MOD after a Combo Proc then Smoke Bomb + Moonlight 

the question is how often would you find your Smoke+Moon crit combo not enough to 1 shot someone

**im am not sure if you can cast it in hide and stay Hidden though i currently dont have it in my rouge to test

but if it is possible to cast MoD without revealing then its a great skill 

 

 

if you find it useful 

this might be the end game build for you 

 

http://ro2base.com/b...1.1.1/0.0.0.0.0


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 11:42 PM

please explain more about the title, why rudolph? why wreath? which title gives more benefit to rogue, tnx :D


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 01:33 AM

if you don't plan on refining your gears and at early levels, wreath would be decent 

People get Lower bonus from Wreath if the Level and Def rate is High

 

 

Rudolph on the other hand is like a flat rate increase on your damage

(would only decrease in effectiveness if target got more than 75% def rate)

 

 

personally though i dont like both 

since the HHB lots of people got refined armors

its common for people to have above the def cap if that happens Rudolph is useless

and others that have below 75% def cap would have died with your 1 shot whether you have Rudolph or not 

 

id wait for something that got HP and Att like Halloween title

 

you could try stacking Penetration from cards and the upcoming Eddga gears that would increase Rudolphs usefulness 

although im skeptical if it would make useful difference in your fights 


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 04:37 AM

what about wreath? it gives 300 vigor which can lower cd on skills or pet :D no love for it? :)))


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:12 AM

The actual boost in percentage is good 

see for yourself if you could actually need the boost 

f.e SM/Priest needs high enough Vigor to lock opponents in PVP

 

if you got something similar in your Combo get it 

i dont have enough exp to comment if vigor is necessary(aside from Osi card/Hones) 

 


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Posted 12 January 2015 - 08:04 PM

Rudolph 

i wouldnt recommend not getting Cross impact it would be your 1 shot skill for cloth types 

 

i dont have much exp using MoD as a Rouge i dropped it after trying it for a while 

that 20% is indeed a great boost 

duration and CD is a turn off though

Which makes it very situational 

- you dont need it against cloths without +20

- 10sec is short since there are a lot of factor that could counter act it, Shield Runes Proc, CCs 

- the best situation i think would be MOD after a Combo Proc then Smoke Bomb + Moonlight 

the question is how often would you find your Smoke+Moon crit combo not enough to 1 shot someone

**im am not sure if you can cast it in hide and stay Hidden though i currently dont have it in my rouge to test

but if it is possible to cast MoD without revealing then its a great skill 

 

 

if you find it useful 

this might be the end game build for you 

 

http://ro2base.com/b...1.1.1/0.0.0.0.0

Can i know what card you used?


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Posted 12 January 2015 - 08:12 PM

im poor could only afford Condor cards 


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Posted 10 April 2015 - 07:06 AM

Between wreath tittle and rudolph tittle, i prefer the first. Are you thinking why ? 2 reasons: vigor and def rate. Its true, wreath tittle improve the damage via penetration +50 (1% bypass) and 150 crit (<1% crit) in mlvl 35, but both bonus had been overshadowed for high rates def (immediate refine stones, infinium, lucky powder, blessing powder via HHB),<1% crit its so low to consider use that tittle and 1% bypass is too low for purposes of increase damage (in pvp, your enemy will have frecuently over 75% def, or can use earth shield buff and elixir vit buff to obtain that, bypass only works when you are in ymir state +9% bypass and use other items to increase penetration like osiris epic cards, shadow claw buff via union shadow, and only in few targets; in pve, last dungeon FP all mob have over 75% def too).

 

In the other side, +500 its nice buff to improve our resistance (rogue have low def rate with cazar and we need refines in our tier to get 75% def cap) and +150 vigor is SO MUCH (aprox 5% decrease CD, the same bonus of 2 +1 osiris epic+), with + good honings and medium seeds (20 flames seeds) you can archieve 50% CD reduction (and you can say HELLO to mod lvl 10 and dirty plan lvl 5 1 min CD, crescent moon lvl 10 7.5s CD, moonlight dance 10s CD, cross impact 4s CD, smoke bomb lvl 6 45s CD, ymir and guild skills 5min CD), and with pump it up hard pill, pump it up pill, vigor link, better seeds (or honings of eddga tier) you can archieve 63 or 75% reduction!!

 

About mod, dirty plan and smoke bomb, i can say ... why not maxed all to pvp purposes or fast fights ? mod gives not 20% damage, is 20% all + 20% rogues (total 40% to our) and with this you can defeat more easy those tanks-fortress like knight. You can use dirty plan in hide to do moonlight dance x4 damage if combo mastery isnt proceed, and smoke bomb max have low CD (moonlight x4 frecuency increase), 5s inmunity (4 out hide to down your opponent, and can increase time to that with other smoke bomb via CD reset or kicking you enemy for 3 or more seconds via crescent moon).

 

I have wreath tittle and rudolph title, for that i test both and recommend so far wreath tittle, and about skills, i have 50,5% CD reduction without buffs and for that i can say, mod, dirty, smoke max levels are so strong in pvp, a little example is my rotation to pvp

 

hide->cross impact/dark illusion->dual stab->crescent moonlvl10 (3s knockdown)->mark of death->cross impact->smoke bomb->dirty plan->moonlight dance->cross impact->dual stab->crescent moon (its really deathly, and works very well against OP def targets).


Edited by kamuxo, 10 April 2015 - 07:08 AM.

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