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#1 iamvrypwrful

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 04:33 PM

Playing Tierra can actually be fun but Flavius is just farming

 

1. delete flavius

2. make tierra rewards better

 

3. figure something else out since it's not my job


Edited by iamvrypwrful, 06 May 2015 - 04:33 PM.

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#2 Gn1ydnu

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 04:38 PM

At least buff TG. +1


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#3 AlmrOfAtlas

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 05:02 PM

Yes please.


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 05:48 PM

Signed.


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 09:34 PM

+1. Need more votes.


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 09:52 PM

ys please tierra is fun


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#7 AlmrOfAtlas

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 10:11 PM

GMs pls OP has 10 upvotes. That's like half the server.

 

12 upvotes! That's over 60% of the entire server!


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 10:11 PM

literally


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 11:51 PM

I'm okay with just removing Flavius, it's not fun and just encourages boring farmfests.

 

I think the Tierra badge to time ratio is okay and buffing it could be a bit much.

 

There's also the one set of NPCs that dont actually work properly right now and just crash you as soon as you talk to them, removing them would be pretty great.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:15 AM

^Yeah we definitely need to make sure the GMs don't buff things too much. There are plenty of examples of requests that they actually carry through with, but are too much. One of those examples would be orlean's glove drop rate.

 

That being said, flavius is still way faster than tierra when farmed as fast as it can be without switching characters.

 

Buffing to 14 per win/7 per loss sounds like it would be about as efficient to me. That was a rough estimate. Everyone else should share their opinion so we can get a fair average. Keep in mind that the efficiency includes time between matches as well.

 

but first we need to actually get the GMs attention?

 

edit: Anyone know how tierra/flavius delays work differently if at all? If they have the same delay, then tierra is exactly 8/20 times slower, which is awful.


Edited by squirreI, 07 May 2015 - 12:17 AM.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 12:39 AM

I'm not sure about Flavius timers because I dont do it, but from memory Tierra has two timers 5 minutes and 3 minutes. I think the 5 minute is as soon as the game begins and 3 minute begins when you speak to the NPC to let you out?


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:01 AM

bring on battlegrounds 2.0 skull collection, team death match, and conquest lezgo


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 03:11 AM

Tolrin doesn't approve of turning Classic into a private server and I don't either.

Xellie is already strong enough.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 04:00 AM

Tolrin doesn't approve of turning Classic into a private server and I don't either.

Xellie is already strong enough.

 

Do you... play this server?

 

Flavius has an increased badge reward per BG completion over a vanilla server, which is kinda "pserver" in itself. This is sad because everyone then flocks to Flav BG due to more badges/h, and farm it nigh endlessly since it's quick, easy and no combat with other players is required.

 

The most commonly leveled complaint at BG is that the carebears will always choose Flav to avoid PvP, and get really -_-ty at any free-thinking individual who decides to actually battle in the battlegrounds. Considering that PvP on Classic is already floundering due to low pop, unbalanced stuff and a lack of consumable restrictions yet people run through BG, a game mode specifically designed to promote PvP all the time (but never touch the actual PvP rooms), it's only natural that PvPers will go to the last semi-active place where fights can actually occur outside of Siege times (more PvE PK maps would be nice btw).

 

The way Tierra is set up, you can start with less people, so less waiting and fewer impatient leavers, and you're funneled into combat with one another. The ONLY reason people aren't touching this mode is because the badge payout is terribad compared to the bottable farmfest that is Flavius, which this proposal (among many of its kind sadly) aims to fix. Most people that do BG actually like to PvP, since they're active in order to get badges for PvP/WoE-specialised equipment and consumables, but running anything other that Flav is a huge mother ducking waste of time.

 

It has absolutely nothing to do with Xellie, unless you count her wasting megaphones in an attempt to get BGs started as something. Also pretty sure I see Valk people upvoting this prop.

 

Gil you -_- troll. At least if the GMs read this they might get some context out of it.


Edited by AlmrOfAtlas, 07 May 2015 - 04:04 AM.

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#15 iamvrypwrful

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 09:09 AM

OK GUYS

 

STEPS TO VICTORY:

1. Remove flavius

2. Buff Tierra reward to 14/7 badges

3. Remove delay for next game to open after one finishes


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 09:38 AM

The delay on Tierra is less than Flavius (try it) - I shout for Tierra enough to know this.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 10:20 AM

might as well remove it


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 10:37 AM

Yeah remove that zero delay

 

The only time I find myself waiting is if people leave alts in.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 01:23 PM

Please give us this.

 

Even tho I have the best timing when it comes to die -> dc (unless that got fixed). Buffed badges = worth.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 04:38 PM

Maybe they could alternate between flavius and tierra to avoid burnout / build hype for "good weeks" to farm a lot when a favorable gametype is in. TG would be nice at current rates if c/d was removed.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 06:51 PM

Just leave them both but make Tierra more appealing.

There should be options like Scuba said.


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Posted 07 May 2015 - 07:03 PM

Just leave them both but make Tierra more appealing.

There should be options like Scuba said.

 

He hath spoken.

 

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 07:08 PM

Just leave them both but make Tierra more appealing.

There should be options like Scuba said.

 

What benefit does Flavius bring to the game?


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 06:33 PM

OK GUYS

 

STEPS TO VICTORY:

1. Remove flavius

2. Buff Tierra reward to 14/7 badges

3. Remove delay for next game to open after one finishes

 

 

Agree to dis


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Posted 10 May 2015 - 12:23 PM

:yawn:


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