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[Kebtung]

Supposed a monk mastered Triple Attack skill is wearing Snake Head Hat which gives Lv5 Double Attack passive skill.

Since they cannot proc at the same time.

Which one has priority? Double or Triple Attack.

 

As far as I know, it's like this.

Critical > Double/Triple Attack.

 

But not sure when it's Double vs Triple Attack.

[Ashuckel]

not sure about double/raging trifectra. But double and skill procs take priority over Crit. even with 100% crit, you will still proc these and they can miss since they are Hit based.

[tshin23]

Double > Crit. o.o

[Kadelia]

Double > Crit. o.o

Not when your doubles miss a 600 flee mvp

[3452140212150117003]

sometime, i forgot how awesome my ability to remember something. btw, : https://forums.warpp...aser-mechanics/

[Ashuckel]

Not when your doubles miss a 600 flee mvp

He meant wich takes priority.

Crit can be like 30~40% stronger than a double atk :l, so op

[tshin23]

Not when your doubles miss a 600 flee mvp

 

 

He meant wich takes priority.

Crit can be like 30~40% stronger than a double atk :l, so op

[Ramses]

but... renewal crits = 40% extra dmg?

double attack is 2 hits so 100% extra dmg, the only problem is that it can miss

[Akupuff]

but... renewal crits = 40% extra dmg?

double attack is 2 hits so 100% extra dmg, the only problem is that it can miss

 

Remember people use +Crit damage gears. Just from the top of my head:

 

Assuming 120 LUK:

 

Temp LUK Boots (+30~39% Crit damage)

Fatal FAW (+18~26% Crit Damage)

Petal Card (+12% Crit Damage)

Aunoe Cards (+20% Crit Damage)

Angra Mantis (+2-8% Crit Damage)

LUK Glove (+1% Crit Damage)

Adv. Assassin Mask (+1% Crit Damage)

 

Added over the 40% base, it's a lot. People don't use ALL of these, but only some of them is enough to push Crit damage to ridiculous levels.

[3452140212150117003]

just wondering, those crit EB rg who is stacking so many critmod in woe, how much can they deal in pvm? o3o

what is the actual number that pop out when they hit something?

[Ashuckel]

Temp luk gives 2% per 2 upgrade.38% at +12
Petal gives 2% crit dmg per 10 luk.24% total
Faw gives 26% on fatal enchants, 6% with 120 luk

Lets say is a gx with +12 little feather hat with angra mantis(sharp arrow ofc), 2x aunoe,+12 boots, 2x luk gloves and the other above listed.


Sorted by gear/card slot:

20%+8%+1%+40%+32%+24%+38%+2%= 165% extra crit dmg.

Double atk = 100 * 200% = 200

Crit = 100 * 140% * 265% = 371

Errr the number before wasnt considering fully crit dmg stack, but optimal gx gears lmao! This example here crit is 85% stronger than double

[Ashuckel]

just wondering, those crit EB rg who is stacking so many critmod in woe, how much can they deal in pvm? o3o

what is the actual number that pop out when they hit something?

On a regular woe build, 400k average

[mildcontempt]

I'm not even sure how one would test double attack v raging trifecta blow since they are both considered "skills". You'd never be certain if one overwrote the other or it just happened to be the one that procc'd on its own. 

 

what if they both overwrite one another? 

 

You could take a wild guess by observing like 1,000 hits and seeing if the proc rate of either one is below the supposed % chance.

 

But then, why bother? 

[Kebtung]

Ugh so I remember it wrong then.

Should be Double/Triple Attack > Critical.

 

Still, knowing Double vs Triple Attack priority helps choosing whether or not worth using Snake Head Hat?

[CadburyChocolate]

He meant wich takes priority.

Crit can be like 30~40% stronger than a double atk :l, so op

In terms of damage? DA is stronger i think.. it just misses

[Necrohealiac]

well op plays a monk class right? so if they're concerned about triple attack they're probably comboing to level; if dbl atk overrides trifecta blows then you should axe dbl attack.

[Akupuff]

In terms of damage? DA is stronger i think.. it just misses

 

By raw modifiers, yeah, DA is stronger. With Crit Dmg gears, Crits do almost 50% more damage than DA.

[LiteAdi]

With crit gear like that can we still achiece 193 aspd?

[Xellie]

if I recall correctly, Trifecta overrides DA see Trifecta stalkers

 

also, I know its been answered but this is a 3 year old video about crit vs DS

 

skills are always calced before crits

 

[CadburyChocolate]

By raw modifiers, yeah, DA is stronger. With Crit Dmg gears, Crits do almost 50% more damage than DA.

No no, you got it wrong... DA is still stronger in terms of single damage... DA with optimal gear > Crit with optimal gear though crit will have more DPS since it has consistent damage compared to DA @ 100% crit rate, no miss

[tshin23]

Not really sure about that...

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let say a DD DA gx vs DD crit gx, where DD DA stacking damage, while DD crit stacking crit mod. Assuming both manage to get 193aspd, which build can produce greater damage per second?

i always assume it is: dd da > dd crit > katar crit > rc crs > katar da.

[Necrohealiac]

and then the mvp agi ups and your dd da dps -> 0

[CadburyChocolate]

No no, you got it wrong... DA is still stronger in terms of single damage... DA with optimal gear > Crit with optimal gear though crit will have more DPS since it has consistent damage compared to DA @ 100% crit rate, no miss

 

[Ashuckel]

No no, you got it wrong... DA is still stronger in terms of single damage... DA with optimal gear > Crit with optimal gear though crit will have more DPS since it has consistent damage compared to DA @ 100% crit rate, no miss

Even swaping all the crit dmg% gears you might be able to use, and use pure atk gears, crit IS stronger than da. I have both DD DA and DD Crit gxes and i proved that myself. Even dd crit being lower level and lacking some stuff it still outdamages my dd da 175.