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#1 igv1998

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 03:59 AM

Hello I have a question , what would be the best build and better skills for pvp ? I'm new with rebel class


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#2 Kadelia

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 04:03 AM

I wouldn't build a character I am new/unfamiliar with for PVP, since PVP requires some amount of skill


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#3 igv1998

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 04:05 AM

i took two weeks looking for videos of rebellion in pvp heheh find nothing


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 07:51 AM

that's probably because without support a rebel will get ripped apart by like every other class. you can dish out the damage but you definitely can't take it. as an expanded class you also suffer from a smaller hp pool.

what sort of damage avoidance does rebel have? even ninja classes have CSS at least.
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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:32 PM

that's probably because without support a rebel will get ripped apart by like every other class. you can dish out the damage but you definitely can't take it. as an expanded class you also suffer from a smaller hp pool.

what sort of damage avoidance does rebel have? even ninja classes have CSS at least.

 

Gunslinger Panic (-20% ranged damage taken) / Disarm

 

but,it's not working yey !


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#6 CharAznable

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:50 PM

Whenever someone ask questions like you made, often time they have little understanding of what that class is actually capable of. I suggest you to actually try out more than 1 ~ 2 build on Rebel first, and be more specific on questions. There is no cookie cutter build for PVP.


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#7 Hissis

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:53 PM

Whenever someone ask questions like you made, often time they have little understanding of what that class is actually capable of. I suggest you to actually try out more than 1 ~ 2 build on Rebel first, and be more specific on questions. There is no cookie cutter build for PVP.

hey Char,do u know if Disarm,Gatling Fever and Gunslinger Panic is working on kRO?


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:11 PM

All three skill should be working in kRO. Unless something has been changed.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:36 PM

All three skill should be working in kRO. Unless something has been changed.

ic...

 

i never saw some skills working since renew (bRO/iRO)

 

Disarm,Gatling Fever,Gunslinger Panic are just examples  :/ 


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:41 PM

PVP rebellion lol


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:45 PM

ic...

 

i never saw some skills working since renew (bRO/iRO)

 

Disarm,Gatling Fever,Gunslinger Panic are just examples  :/ 

 

Gatling Fever works for me on iRO. 


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 03:33 PM

Gatling Fever works for me on iRO. 

 

100%? The ATK effect is working but the aspd is not (well,at least last time i tried was not working)


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 03:39 PM

100%? The ATK effect is working but the aspd is not (well,at least last time i tried was not working)

 

It increase aspd on my tooltip, and also increased my aspd visually. 


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 05:53 PM

Gatling fever is bugged since renewal on kro too. But no one plays the class to care about it
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Posted 18 December 2015 - 06:41 PM

I'm currently working on a PvP build now. Shotgun is basically the best way to go+ whatever sidearm you made want to utilize, such as Gatling for PvM, or more atkspd oriented pistol suppression. My question to you is... What do you think rebel's role in PvP/WoE setting entails


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 02:27 AM

I'm currently working on a PvP build now. Shotgun is basically the best way to go+ whatever sidearm you made want to utilize, such as Gatling for PvM, or more atkspd oriented pistol suppression. My question to you is... What do you think rebel's role in PvP/WoE setting entails

 

Slug Shot can 1HKO most char in PVP no doubt about that... but no one will allow you to move towards them and let you shot them in the face. A WL simply obliterates me with their spell few seconds before I could even finish casting Slug Shot on him. :sob:

 

The best way to counter Slug Shot is to distance yourself from it, a GX & SC can simply Backslide to do that. :yawn: And they simply cant survive on their own like GX & Gene does.

PVP: no idea, Rebellion is all about offence and no defense.

WoE: debuffer (shotgun/rifle) or maybe back support (gatling/g. launcher)


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 03:27 PM

Slug Shot can 1HKO most char in PVP no doubt about that... but no one will allow you to move towards them and let you shot them in the face. A WL simply obliterates me with their spell few seconds before I could even finish casting Slug Shot on him. :sob:

 

The best way to counter Slug Shot is to distance yourself from it, a GX & SC can simply Backslide to do that. :yawn: And they simply cant survive on their own like GX & Gene does.

PVP: no idea, Rebellion is all about offence and no defense.

WoE: debuffer (shotgun/rifle) or maybe back support (gatling/g. launcher)

 

There's a way to play with Rebel in pvp,but,u will need :

 

Expensive Gears to get IC (DEX/INT gears)

 

• Phreonni or thanatos/ss card.

 

Fingers

 

•  a lot of food,bless scroll,hp increase,vit +20

 

• Specific Build 

 

atm i'm trying to get the gears, after this i will try to pvp 

 

Would be great if Gunslinger panic work as indeed but we're playing Ragnarok,everything is broken :D


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Posted 25 December 2015 - 12:02 AM

There's a way to play with Rebel in pvp,but,u will need :

 

Expensive Gears to get IC (DEX/INT gears)

 

• Phreonni or thanatos/ss card.

 

Fingers

 

•  a lot of food,bless scroll,hp increase,vit +20

 

• Specific Build 

 

atm i'm trying to get the gears, after this i will try to pvp 

 

Would be great if Gunslinger panic work as indeed but we're playing Ragnarok,everything is broken :D

 

Theres not a lot of (more like none) Rebellion PVP video in youtube, so I'm counting on you for that :ok:

 

Cast time is one thing, but the cool down is sure pain in the arse (Slug Shot = 5 sec cd) :Emo_20:


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Posted 25 December 2015 - 12:59 AM

Slug Shot CD is same with Dragon Tail,

we know  slug shot probably better in term of damage but DT ignores flee .. both of them, you can reduce their cast time by using Hit Barrel on max coins, also i think you can pvp W/O slug shot ? like using anti material blast ?


Edited by Silvianna, 25 December 2015 - 01:08 AM.

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Posted 25 December 2015 - 05:17 AM

err i think DT doesnt ignore flee since i kinda get misses on rangers/gxs


@slugshot
the only time i really use this is when i solo mvp and when doing test on how high it could go
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Posted 25 December 2015 - 05:38 AM

err i think DT doesnt ignore flee since i kinda get misses on rangers/gxs


@slugshot
the only time i really use this is when i solo mvp and when doing test on how high it could go

i see, so they changed it already just like what they did to fixed cast on slug shot and hammer of god.

thanks for correction  :p_hi:


Edited by Silvianna, 25 December 2015 - 05:39 AM.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 07:36 PM

Theres not a lot of (more like none) Rebellion PVP video in youtube, so I'm counting on you for that :ok:

 

Cast time is one thing, but the cool down is sure pain in the arse (Slug Shot = 5 sec cd) :Emo_20:

 

It's sad,i tried to search some videos,even in Korean but i found nothing.

 

It's really really hard to play as rebel,as i said,the HP/resistence is ''''not a problem''',cast time is the real problem.

 

EVERY TIME  i go to pvp with my rebel,i need to use +20DEX/+20INT/BLESS/VIP BUFF and sometimes Box of Gloom,expensive as hell and the cast is still slow.

 

We have Hit Barrel but hey,if u switch weapon this *** put u on a 10 seconds delay (u can't even use speed potion),If u stay all the time with ur Shotgun/Rifle,you will die to stone fling -_-

 

That's why there's 0 rebel pvp record on youtube,it's expensive and u need to switch everyfukintime,sometimes u don't have the time to switch (for example,Thara>Crimson Marker> Grenade Launcher > Dragon Tail) 


Edited by Hissis, 27 December 2015 - 07:39 PM.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 07:56 PM

i pvp w/ rebel but not to confident on making vida since my rebel still at 137. still kinda in training phase but i do win(sometimes) against other players

@combi
hide>switchhide>marker>hide>howling>dt = works most of the time. if ever dt misses = thara+speed(that idk secs delay :3)

@cast time
i kinda dont want to use shotgun skills due to the cast time and only pvp yolo mode w/o pricy buffs. kinda satisfied w/ dt/howling casttime
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Posted 27 December 2015 - 10:28 PM

i pvp w/ rebel but not to confident on making vida since my rebel still at 137. still kinda in training phase but i do win(sometimes) against other players

@combi
hide>switchhide>marker>hide>howling>dt = works most of the time. if ever dt misses = thara+speed(that idk secs delay :3)

@cast time
i kinda dont want to use shotgun skills due to the cast time and only pvp yolo mode w/o pricy buffs. kinda satisfied w/ dt/howling casttime

 

I tried HM+DT combo in sakray before and its proved to be more reliable compared to Slug Shot.

 

Just a question, can the HM be stacked? ie: 3 HM stacked on 1 target and detonated simultaneously producing 3x detonation damage.


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:45 AM

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