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#26 Silvianna

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:45 AM

Thanks, one more, is it possible to create ASS chaser based on wind magic, like Jupitel for 1 vs 1 with MvP, ? So im going to copy WL build mvping with wind tetra or wind chain lightning , of course Elvira is needed.
Hows it ? .-.

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 07:32 AM

I am playing around with different ideas for shadow spell and wanted to get other people's suggestions. I have sg and ms through autocasts so I've been using lov with shadow spell.  What are some other skills I should try out?


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Posted 14 February 2016 - 08:31 AM

Thunderstorm>LoV

@Silviana, in 1v1 againts a water mvp its ok, but using either cold or fire bolt qith imp/siroma cards deals more dmg

Edited by Ashuckel, 14 February 2016 - 08:32 AM.

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 04:25 AM

Hello there, okay have no experience w SC, not even a rogue
But im planning to create one, so here im going ask a fews of Q
1. Does invisiblity grant you 100% crit ?
2. Does invisibility treat as hiding status ?
3. It states you can copy via intimidate, reproduce same skill, even on the list
You can copy Shadow Slash.
4. If invis treats as hiding status, can i abuse shadow slash while having 100% crit rate ? Umm ? :V
5. Ive seen SC vid auto casting with Occult Impact, his damage is really good, wait... is it possible to auto cast melee skill via shadown spell?
6. It says auto cast works within invisibility ? Is there benefit for that ?

Thanks for answering hehe

 

Currently leveling with Invisibility now with my 140/44 SC

 

1. Just to show it in my example,

My crit before invisibility = 25

My crit after invisibility = 125

 

2. Yes it is.

* You will still be attacked by Boss, insect, and demon, but you wouldn't reveal yourself even being hit

** Sight from high wiz and scholar mob in bio lab 3~4F WILL REVEAL YOU i don't know why, maybe it is a bug. (System still treat your char as invisibility status)

** After you've being detect by sight, you will be attacked by every monsters around you and still drain your sp + can't use item, which means death.

*** You can travel freely in bio lab 2F, just need to avoid MVP and Assassin cross.

screenChaos000.jpg

 

4. No skill and item usage during invisibility state.

 

6. Yes auto-cast works within invisibility.

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Just few more important notes on invisibility,

1. You cannot cancel invisibility in any way unless you run out of your sp.

 

2. During this status, only the weapon atk is counts as GHOST property

Your status atk still remain NEUTRAL property

[In your status window, Atk = 100 + 200 (status atk + weapon atk)]

 

So you can basically hit every property in the game while in invisibility (Ghost + Neutral)

 

 

3. Since you got 100%, you might consider to leave your double attack at lv 0. (Change job at job level 42 when you are a high thief)

 

 

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- With the following status, critical hit is around 1000 on cenere.

- When hitting antique book (Neutral 3, Ghost property atk will miss completely), only my status attack work, which is 3xx.

- Keep int at 1 to minimize my Max SP so I will have time to recover my sp.

 

screenChaos005.jpg


Edited by kira26, 15 February 2016 - 04:54 AM.

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 07:03 PM

Thanks for awesome reply :-)
So if you cant use any items during invi, how do you survive ?
Leech weapon ?

@ashuckel
Yupp i think, i wish i can auto cast tetra :V

Edited by Silvianna, 15 February 2016 - 07:06 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 09:26 AM

Thanks for awesome reply :-)
So if you cant use any items during invi, how do you survive ?
Leech weapon ?

@ashuckel
Yupp i think, i wish i can auto cast tetra :V

I guess only boss / insect / demon monsters see you in invisibility, the rest you can just kill them without even being attacked


Edited by Dadiris, 16 February 2016 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 10:00 AM

A lot of monsters have on their AI to use teleport when attacked and cant attack back/chase you
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 10:01 AM

so when you encounter eremes on bio2 you just die then?
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 06:47 PM

A lot of monsters have on their AI to use teleport when attacked and cant attack back/chase you

 

Invisibility is actually a special case. Monsters that cannot detect you will not teleport away while attacking em.


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Posted 16 February 2016 - 08:13 PM

Thanks for awesome reply :-)
So if you cant use any items during invi, how do you survive ?
Leech weapon ?

@ashuckel
Yupp i think, i wish i can auto cast tetra :V

I use Pendant of harmony for HP recover, if I get hit by boss/insect/demon. (For example, Gemeni-87 or Hydrolancer)

and SP recover weapon like moonlight dagger and such.

 

You can equip and unequip gears during invisibility.

 

 

 

A lot of monsters have on their AI to use teleport when attacked and cant attack back/chase you

Just like Garmer says, mob with tele AI will not teleport away when you attack them in invisibility.

Unless my meteor storm hit them when I left from their sight.

 

 

 

so when you encounter eremes on bio2 you just die then?

yes unfortunately...

glad there is only 1 on bio2.


Edited by kira26, 16 February 2016 - 08:18 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:18 AM

yes unfortunately...

glad there is only 1 on bio2.

you can try swapping 2 knife[4] carded with sp draining cards.
immediately 0-in your sp and flying away.


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:46 AM

you can try swapping 2 knife[4] carded with sp draining cards.
immediately 0-in your sp and flying away.

 

I was actually thinking about unequip undead knight F card garment.

 

It drains 444sp away per swap, but the price is too high just for swapping purpose...


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 05:32 AM

Currently leveling with Invisibility now with my 140/44 SC

 

1. Just to show it in my example,

My crit before invisibility = 25

My crit after invisibility = 125

 

2. Yes it is.

* You will still be attacked by Boss, insect, and demon, but you wouldn't reveal yourself even being hit

** Sight from high wiz and scholar mob in bio lab 3~4F WILL REVEAL YOU i don't know why, maybe it is a bug. (System still treat your char as invisibility status)

** After you've being detect by sight, you will be attacked by every monsters around you and still drain your sp + can't use item, which means death.

*** You can travel freely in bio lab 2F, just need to avoid MVP and Assassin cross.

screenChaos000.jpg

 

4. No skill and item usage during invisibility state.

 

6. Yes auto-cast works within invisibility.

==================================================================================

 

Just few more important notes on invisibility,

1. You cannot cancel invisibility in any way unless you run out of your sp.

 

2. During this status, only the weapon atk is counts as GHOST property

Your status atk still remain NEUTRAL property

[In your status window, Atk = 100 + 200 (status atk + weapon atk)]

 

So you can basically hit every property in the game while in invisibility (Ghost + Neutral)

 

 

3. Since you got 100%, you might consider to leave your double attack at lv 0. (Change job at job level 42 when you are a high thief)

 

 

==================================================================================

- With the following status, critical hit is around 1000 on cenere.

- When hitting antique book (Neutral 3, Ghost property atk will miss completely), only my status attack work, which is 3xx.

- Keep int at 1 to minimize my Max SP so I will have time to recover my sp.

 

screenChaos005.jpg

mind trying your survivability on ET?


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 05:40 AM

What do u mean by ET, fuyuki-kun ?
Soloing ET ?

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:31 AM

33 vit and basically no reductions seems like a bad idea for soloing ET
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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:42 AM

33 vit and basically no reductions seems like a bad idea for soloing ET


Surprisingly this can get you to Egnigem. FBH with the right gears.
Cuz thats how far i can solo on my sinx
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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:43 AM

you also have 2 megs bro
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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:49 AM

Wich i dont use on sinx
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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:50 AM

oh snap
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Posted 18 February 2016 - 01:22 PM

oh that pretty cool the invisibility thing where you can attack and not cause monsters to tele


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 01:40 PM

I am trying out JT with shadow spell and its pretty interesting. I use a SK dagger so it's funny to see the JTs freeze the monsters. xD
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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:15 PM

As long as you're smart the floors up to Egnigem are pretty easily doable.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 01:45 PM

How much dex is enough to hit most monsters in iRO? is 80 total dex ok? let's say you're leveling with an ASS chaser.


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Posted 21 February 2016 - 03:00 AM

No, I'd say you need at least 90-100 to be able to hit some endgame monsters. 


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 06:44 AM

hi may i ask wat is the recommended card for weapon and headgear for this kind of build ? :p_omg:

 

bloody knight for weapon and weakened fenrir for headgear? :hmm:


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