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#1 HyKoT

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 12:51 PM

Hello guys,

 

Would you be able to tell me which of these two is more fun to play and better late game for both pve and pvp? Thank you so much


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#2 RainbowRush

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 01:47 PM

Warlock more fun, but Shaman is usually better.

 

This is how I see it:

PvE: Warlock > Shaman until you have good gear, then Shaman > Warlock. Shaman is better endgame regardless, I think. Both classes are really strong for PvE.

PvP: I haven't played PvP seriously in well over a year, and never a lot of Summoner. However, I think it depends on how you play.

I think Sorcerer can be better in a good team setting when played well, though Shaman is otherwise better.

 

 

I might be a bit biased, as well as not being an expert in both classes, so don't take my word alone.

Also Summoner is by far the most boring class in the game. Just getting to 40 feels like a chore to me.


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Posted 10 January 2016 - 02:50 PM

The more fun to play ? That's definitely Warlock, unless you enjoy pressing only one key in a whole dungeon (without counting movement keys).

 

Shamans have the freaking highest damage per second potential of the game, and thus deal far, far more damage than Warlocks to single targets.


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#4 HyKoT

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Posted 17 January 2016 - 06:51 PM

is there a full pve build till lvl 60 for shaman?


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Posted 17 January 2016 - 06:58 PM

http://irowiki.org/~...030350000000000

 

 

Use this until you get to a higher level. Shamans use a ridiculous amount of skill points so you're never gonna have all you want until you reach a high level in the 80's and even still you won't have all you need.


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Posted 17 January 2016 - 07:29 PM

http://irowiki.org/~...030350000000000

 

 

Use this until you get to a higher level. Shamans use a ridiculous amount of skill points so you're never gonna have all you want until you reach a high level in the 80's and even still you won't have all you need.

This only pvp build? I don't use any Inferno and mega inferno, because this useless in pve. X button better.


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Posted 17 January 2016 - 07:35 PM

Inferno is just a prerequisite to get impact presser and rolling stone which is needed in pvp.

 

And I don't understand your question, if all you do is press x and all other skills are useless , did you just max smart shot and some skills that boost your x attacks? The rest you didn't put points in?

Trust me you are right, just spamming x outdamages all skills in the summoner skill tree. Then whats the point in a skill build? I'm just giving him a decent build for pvp and clearly you can still pve with that same build and not lose damage at all.


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#8 Adgi9d0gid90gd9g

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Posted 17 January 2016 - 09:49 PM

Inferno is just a prerequisite to get impact presser and rolling stone which is needed in pvp.

 

And I don't understand your question, if all you do is press x and all other skills are useless , did you just max smart shot and some skills that boost your x attacks? The rest you didn't put points in?

Trust me you are right, just spamming x outdamages all skills in the summoner skill tree. Then whats the point in a skill build? I'm just giving him a decent build for pvp and clearly you can still pve with that same build and not lose damage at all.

Just put all points in summons. I see pvp in this game, only you need - +20 weapon and other gear. Peoples with this gear just one hit others who don't have this gear. Pvp very unbalanced.


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 03:35 AM

Well generally in all games if you stack a character, you will be able to kill others just as fast.

And the other problem is your comparing someone who is stacked to someone who is not.
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Posted 18 January 2016 - 03:53 AM

Well generally in all games if you stack a character, you will be able to kill others just as fast.

And the other problem is your comparing someone who is stacked to someone who is not.

 

In other games, pvp have balance between all players. Like battles from 20-30/30-40/40-50 level and higher. Or balanced all players and all stats to same numbers.

In this game i start from zero and don't have any money, gear, enchants, etc. Other players even on lvl 40 have +20 all gear. All my attacks with 50-55 damage and they can hit on 6k hp from single attack.

I don't have fun from this unbalanced pvp.


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 04:00 AM

You should remember that those players have spent possibly years and/or huge amounts of money/gold to achieve such gears. Nothing prevents you getting same kinds of items.
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Posted 18 January 2016 - 04:01 AM

Everyone starts at 0. Some players have +20 gear and everything without spending a single cent in this game, some players pump in a lot of money to stack faster than those who don't. It takes time to gear up in this game.
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Posted 18 January 2016 - 04:06 AM

You should remember that those players have spent possibly years and/or huge amounts of money/gold to achieve such gears. Nothing prevents you getting same kinds of items.

 

Why developers put steam players on old server? I don't have years for enchants same as veterans. I just want to play in game and not to think about possible troubles.

If they put steam players on this server, need patch for balance all aspects in this game for new players. Making easy leveling, enchant and other things. Or just open new server.


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 04:34 AM

The moment everyone is equal (geatwise ofc) is the moment you have a booring mmo. Now that is just my opinion but I feel a lot of people share this view. People want the power fantasy, not only over mobs but also other players. I also think it nicely mirrors the real world, where some people are more powerful than others. Besides the game has to make money somehow.

Starting from 0 is the way this game and mmos in general go, so if you don't like that maybe mmos aren't the genre for you :/
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Posted 18 January 2016 - 02:54 PM

my questions is why do u have Doomamik lvl 3? I tried him and he barely does any damage. I am only lvl 38. what aoe skill would be better right now? Thank you so much for your help


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 03:00 PM

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Use this for now then, the reason why you want to use doonmik is for pvp. It is tankier than the mist or dyke. Your passive, energy circulation reduces your casting speed for your skills making your rolling stone instant and is extremely good in pvp. Like people say, pressing x does the most damage, but players are not gonna just sit there and eat your attacks. You have to stun them first so you can land the x spams.

 

As for pve, doonmik just mobs up enemies since it has a skill that taunts monsters to attack it.

 

 

You may have to skill reset later, but I think inferno, earthquake, and meteor rain does a decent amount of damage.


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#17 HyKoT

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 03:24 PM

i want just to concentrate on pve right now till lvl 75

And what about Spell Prison? is it goot for something like F7? And what does Cry of Life really do? i never seen MIst's HP go down


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 11:46 PM

Cry of life restores summons' HP in a radius around the summoner. Your summons may take very little damage from certain enemies since they have (supposedly) high defense, but that'll change at some point when bosses begin to hit way harder (Golem Aram, Lavalon, Cetirus and so on).

 

I rarely ever use this spell since it has a very long cooldown, and my big summons don't die this often anyway, so I can simply recall then summon them again.


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