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[AMNBrasil]

Need help to build character, it seems a rather confused class to play.

[hotel]

Int/dex will vary depending on your gear/foods/buffs since you'll want to calculate how much you need for instacast. Once you've done that you'll want 100 total agi, a bit of str and luk and then everything into vit. 

[Ashuckel]

The spoonfeeding is more real than ever -.-

[DemliekCake]

100 total agi isnt really a must anymore after equip arrow nerf :/
you still need decent aspd for backslide tho..

[AMNBrasil]

Which is better dagger build or bow build?

[DeadIntern]

dagger

[Ashuckel]

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[hotel]

Perhaps you should have a read of the pinned threads and irowiki before you post.

[DemliekCake]

hmm, k, let me do this.

>Stats
Str 50, Agi 58, Vit 120, Int 100,Dex 120, Luk 31
Buffs: Blessing,+20food,+10food,Link, Berzerk (whatever you need to reach instacast)

>Skills
something like this:http://irowiki.org/~...jSdqededkDkDak1

>Basic Gears:
CEB or RPB (if use BDm[0] then Slotted with MayaP, otherwise whatever you like),
BDM[0] or [1] (MayaP),
Hankie or WCPencil,
WoE Set (unfrozen/gr-immune/nox-greenferus/firelock),
Temporal Dex boots (+sacra for fast casting bloodlust)
Ckdex+6,
Orlean's Glove[Zerom/DLconct3] or RWC pendant spell3/3 dex+3 [zerom/DLconct3]

>Shadow Gear:
brown set for all stats +4.
otherwise, dex set, int set, cranial set.
aspd+1
dex, max hp, aspd costume.

>What you do in WoE?
Debuffer. Stay in front of precast. Weaken everyone before they reach your precast.

>Masq101:
ignorance first: Sura, SC, Mech, WL, Sorc, Gene
Weakness first: Rg (if have Faw), AgiRk (if yellow, or no dragon), Ranger, GX, Performer
gloomy first: DBrk
manhole: Rg (FS)

To cover large distance, use backslide, or Steatlh
To cover small distance, use Speedpot, Flying Kick.
never stay in the same spot for longer than 3s.

>Masq-ing Style:
When playing big guild where there is more than 3 chaser = masq randomly (no limit ranger, intense WL, SDMech recaller still a priority)
When playing with small guild where there is less than 3 chaser = masq by prioritizing classes
reasoning: When your guild have lot of chaser, masqing by prioritizing classes can be quite awkward since sometime you will masq a certain same target over and over. That why it is better to just masq randomly, but still prioritizing certain classes in certain situation. This will become better with experience.

>Side note
ME block feintbomb, keep that in mind. Same as Maelstrom.
Never ever shadow form an agi rk, he will b.katz you and you cant do anything.
Marry a linker for easy link.
When your guild is breaking, use bloodlust+maelstrom. Bloodlust give extra aspd while maelstrom prevent safetywall.
Always keep counter instinct up.

btw, tell me when you are getting married, i can show you how to make a baby. I am more than willing to show you how it is done. I will even pay for my own flight ticket.

[hotel]

Most of the time I find it's better to just manhole rangers. Good rangers will be spamming hide constantly between AS's and body painting has a delay so they can rehide after you reveal them. 

[DemliekCake]

yea, forgot to mention that. Body paint sux. Bring a sight acc with you.

[MGOU]

is it fun playing as a debuffer?

 

what if ur guild is attacking a defending guild?

 

what's ur strategy then?

[DemliekCake]

yes, it is fun. A fully masq'd player is same as a poring. They cant do anything to you and your guild.

if your guild is attacking, then your positioning is still the same, in front of precast line.

Then it will depend on your guild play style.
Some guild love to stasis before rushing. In this case, just wait for stasis, then rush in to disable them.

Some guild will cc first. You can go first, poke around and try to disable them or wait for the cc. A mere presence of a sc in the precast can disable that precast. If you feel that it is right, you can cast Bloodlust to disable the precast. Just remember that your sura cant cc them while bloodlust is still there. This is where having Crazy vine is handy.

Some guild love to recall behind enemy precast line. In this case, you can try to follow your recaller, and manhole him as he recall to prevent enemy from stopping your recall. Just make sure to put down maelstrom to prevent your entire guild from being bloodlust, and remove it later using Crazy vine so that your guild can pneuma-walk (not really a problem since Maelstrom aoe is kinda small).

[MGOU]

hmm thanks! very comprehensive.

sorry, please bear with me. last time i woe'd was on pRO-preRenewal as an SD sinX.

so all i know is to stand on bragi and spam SD.

 

i assume that precast is like Land protector or something?

[DemliekCake]

precast in the term use to referring to bunch of classes, mainly DBrk, Ranger, WL, Sorc casting bunch of skills and preventing the enemy from going further. 

When you are precasting the emp room, you are casting several skill and preventing the enemy from atking or reaching the emp.
When you are precasting the stone, you are preventing the enemy from atking the stone.

You get the main idea.

When you are defending, as i stated earlier, precast is used to stop the enemy rush.
When you are atking, you normally form a precast so that your guild can regroup before continuing with the rush. This will allow you to defend yourself when the defending guild suddenly choose to retaliate/fight back.
If you dont form a precast and regroup while pushing, the enemy can easily take out each of you one by one and preventing you from rushing further.

[MGOU]

alright! you must be from a very coordinated guild then.

 

thanks!

[AMNBrasil]

Thanks for your patience and education with my ignorance. I have very little experience in PVP/WOE, I would try these modalities but I'm afraid to be owned LOL

What about PVP what is my role? What do I do? Same thing WOE?