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#1 Njoror

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:10 PM

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Patch Notes February 10, 2016
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One more week of the Lunar Festival!

The Lunar Festival is ending on February 22, 2016, so make sure to take advantage of the holiday event while it lasts!

 

Valentine's Chocolates will be removed on March 7

While the event is now over, the chocolate items will persist until March 7, 2016, when they will inevitably go bad from neglect and grossness!

Eat your chocolates soon to hold onto their effects!*

*This message may or may not be endorsed by the Midgardian Dentist Association

 

We are extending Happy Hour Boxes and Valentine's Chocolates for one more day!

Due to the missing boxes during Tuesday, we are adding an additional day to collect Happy Hour Boxes and Valentine's Chocolates.

The Happy Hour Boxes will run during their normal hours with 20:00 - 21:00 on February 18, 2016, being the last hour.

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Refinement Items are on sale for a short time!

Sale Period: February 17 - February 22, 2016

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Not sure what Refinement is?

Check out Tonitrua's guide here!

 

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Pony Deer VIP Packs are here!

Shop Period: February 15 - March 7, 2016

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Platinum Membership Pack (Pony Deer)

Price: 2000 Kafra Points

The Platinum Membership Pack contains the following:

- (1) Elite Membership Card (30 Days)

- (1) Card Album

- (1) Mount Period Extension (30 Days)

- (10) Special Honing Oil (10%)

- (5) Complete Honing Scrub

- (5) Holgren's Honing Polish Box

- (1) Refine Transfer Ticket

- (1) Adventure's Pack

- (10) Explorer Pack

- (3) Thief Potion

 

Gold Membership Pack (Pony Deer)

Price: 900 Kafra Points

The Gold Membership Pack contains the following:

- (1) Elite Membership Card (30 Days)

- (1) Card Album

- (10) Pump It Up Pill


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:15 PM

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Njoror says 1 more day of HHB to make up for what we lost!  Huzzah!!


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:15 PM

Wonderland event requirements are going to be reduced next week, as well.

 

Plus, we're discussing drop rate solutions, and a multitude of other issues and ideas we've seen on the forums. Keep them coming!


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:16 PM

One more day of HHB! :3


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:20 PM

Wonderland event requirements are going to be reduced next week, as well.

 

Plus, we're discussing drop rate solutions, and a multitude of other issues and ideas we've seen on the forums. Keep them coming!

 

Are they also continuing to work on the "limbo" character issue, or has that work been pushed aside?


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:24 PM

Wonderland event requirements are going to be reduced next week, as well.

 

Plus, we're discussing drop rate solutions, and a multitude of other issues and ideas we've seen on the forums. Keep them coming!

 

This is more important that all the rest up there in the info patch note and for ideas, I really think this forum have all of them.


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:25 PM

Wonderland event requirements are going to be reduced next week, as well.

 

Plus, we're discussing drop rate solutions, and a multitude of other issues and ideas we've seen on the forums. Keep them coming!

i dont even bother going to the Wonderland when it open few time on weekend.

coz the droprate super low...


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:40 PM

Valentine choc will remove.?i thought it will be use neXt soon. just like before vlentine event..it is really just cure buff and hp buff(same effect like graham)?or something i missing....if yes,i should not store it..its same like rubbish..many player told me to save it,next patch they put npc to chnge it..2oow..its wrong..vlntine event just like that..xp


just suggest, maybe ro2 can add icon when wl open in screen?then player not miss it..
And mabye ro2 can add mp reward quest in forgtten payon like jawaii daily quest..soo we can see those mobs again..

Edited by LovelyOppa, 17 February 2016 - 05:44 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:42 PM

1- Put Rune Removers back on Kafra Shop or plainly on Cheny, for god sake. Decrease the amount of Himmelmez tokens needed for Rune Removers, Storage slot expansion, like EVERYTHING. Remove or tweak Rune enhancements on the NPC, it's useless with  +50 and +80 bind runes around.

 

2- Drop rate event for Dapara week as well:

    200% drop rate during week days

    500% drop rate during weekend.

 

3- Most wanted scrolls for PvE, Baphomet, CoA and AoD, please and thank you.

 

4- Increase the amount of Loki cubes on Reiden Kerse EP and Trace of Guardian on EP1.

 

5- Fix the auto-target on WoE map after someone dies and spinel or respawn on the map.

 

 

And i'm still getting extra runs on wonderland dungeon after your "fix". Check your server's hardware.


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:50 PM

just suggest, maybe ro2 can add icon when wl open in screen?then player not miss it..
And mabye ro2 can add mp reward quest in forgtten payon like jawaii daily quest..soo we can see those mobs again..

typical reply by public; sry, closed 23min ago

 

anyway back to the question, i dont find it a problem for player to notice.

why so lazy? need to ask public? why notcheck it for yourself?

when im playing 1st thing i do when i login, ill wrap to jawaii just to check it out to see if it open or not.


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:52 PM

 

And i'm still getting extra runs on wonderland dungeon after your "fix". Check your server's hardware.

then stop abusing it LOOOOL


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 05:59 PM

then stop abusing it LOOOOL

 

I'm not abusing any bug, i get random free runs, cause it's a server side problem. 

 

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:05 PM

I'm not abusing any bug, i get random free runs, cause it's a server side problem.

 

(Edited: CM Varitas)
 

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:06 PM

Wonderland event requirements are going to be reduced next week, as well.

Plus, we're discussing drop rate solutions, and a multitude of other issues and ideas we've seen on the forums. Keep them coming!


Better hurry, folks are leavin'

Edited by MrSnawz2, 17 February 2016 - 06:07 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 07:10 PM

Is it up yet? HHB are waiting for me in there..lmao!


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 07:27 PM

Are they also continuing to work on the "limbo" character issue, or has that work been pushed aside?

 

They are working on an item or items to allow for character expansion, so when it's ready we can deliver these to affected accounts from the merge.

 

We realize having the standby list is really frustrating and it's been a while. We'll get a fix for it hopefully soon.

 

Valentine choc will remove.?i thought it will be use neXt soon. just like before vlentine event..it is really just cure buff and hp buff(same effect like graham)?or something i missing....if yes,i should not store it..its same like rubbish..many player told me to save it,next patch they put npc to chnge it..2oow..its wrong..vlntine event just like that..xp


just suggest, maybe ro2 can add icon when wl open in screen?then player not miss it..
And mabye ro2 can add mp reward quest in forgtten payon like jawaii daily quest..soo we can see those mobs again..

 

The Wonderland open screen is a good idea, we've relayed that before, but will talk about it going in again.

And the ideas to breathe life into older zones is also being discussed. I dig it.

 

1- Put Rune Removers back on Kafra Shop or plainly on Cheny, for god sake. Decrease the amount of Himmelmez tokens needed for Rune Removers, Storage slot expansion, like EVERYTHING. Remove or tweak Rune enhancements on the NPC, it's useless with  +50 and +80 bind runes around.

 

2- Drop rate event for Dapara week as well:

    200% drop rate during week days

    500% drop rate during weekend.

 

3- Most wanted scrolls for PvE, Baphomet, CoA and AoD, please and thank you.

 

4- Increase the amount of Loki cubes on Reiden Kerse EP and Trace of Guardian on EP1.

 

5- Fix the auto-target on WoE map after someone dies and spinel or respawn on the map.

 

 

And i'm still getting extra runs on wonderland dungeon after your "fix". Check your server's hardware.

 

Solid feedback. Thank you, Vau.

 

Is it up yet? HHB are waiting for me in there..lmao!

 

Yep, were open. HHB and chocolates are dropping now and will through tomorrow.


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 07:58 PM

They are working on an item or items to allow for character expansion, so when it's ready we can deliver these to affected accounts from the merge.

 

 

 Best news eva!


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 09:36 PM

Maybe RO need to do something about bugged card such as +9 cards. This cards were bugged a long time ago which makes old player too op. Newbies will never surpass them. Unless you fixed bugs like this, newbies will have a hard time trying to compete with the older players.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 02:32 AM

Oh yuss! Time to stock up some moar HHB.
 
Glad to know they're gonna be a bit more considerate on Wonderland. That's great news because right now we just reach a dead end once we hit max level and play "the waiting game" to have a chance to farm our gears. I wonder if they'd consider removing the entry limit as well. It won't change much like I pointed out before, players with multiple alts get to do it repeatedly, which already bypasses the limit per player. Also, with no limit on (N) and (H) mode, we might see more raids happening.
 

2- Drop rate event for Dapara week as well:

    200% drop rate during week days

    500% drop rate during weekend.

This is the only thing I'll have to disagree with. Not only is x5 drop rates a bit too much but making it during dapara week would be only in favor of older players who don't need to grind for MP anymore. Besides, I wouldn't want to see drop rates fluctuate like that so as to sway the majority to only farm during that time alone, like it is for exp right now. A lot of players don't play during weekdays and only do on the weekends due to the exp rates being high during that time. If we do anything similar like that for drop rates, the remaining few will stop farming/playing during weekdays and just show up during the boosted time period. 
 
The best way to sustain players and keep the community active is to encourage certain activities permanently rather than isolate them to a specific time frame. Dapara week is the only time most players get on and grind because most are lazy to consider grinding at a lower rate and it has also become an habit for me to only grind during weekends. 
 
Grinding isn't so bad and neither is farming so long as it isn't a fruitless effort. It's bad enough that WL opens rarely but you have a 2 entry limit and inspite of using all drop rate buffs, sometimes you get no drops at all.
 
I've said this in another thread, but encourage players to do dead content like Himmelmez's Chamber and all the bosses in Dark Whisper and Forgotten Payon by boosting their usefulness. There's so much content available in this game that can be put to good use rather than come up with fresh ones to keep players active. 
 
How about alternative automated events instead of Trivia that gives everyone equal opportunity to win? Trivia has really good rewards and is the only good source I can find for honing hammers, DNA boxes and 3day VIP, but sadly it's a typing contest where only a few take part in. I'd prefer an event that everyone would take part in and rely purely on luck so that it doesn't favor anyone in particular. 

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 03:35 AM

when there will be new content wonderland will be simply skipped as now is skipped forgotten payon is it possible that gravity is not able to fix and force players to complete steps to not just skip parts?


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:06 AM

This is the only thing I'll have to disagree with. Not only is x5 drop rates a bit too much but making it during dapara week would be only in favor of older players who don't need to grind for MP anymore. Besides, I wouldn't want to see drop rates fluctuate like that so as to sway the majority to only farm during that time alone, like it is for exp right now. A lot of players don't play during weekdays and only do on the weekends due to the exp rates being high during that time. If we do anything similar like that for drop rates, the remaining few will stop farming/playing during weekdays and just show up during the boosted time period. 


That's not true, actually alot of people farm Diamonds all day, everyday, you can make 10,000-20,000 diamonds in a day, get 1-2 Baphomet cloaks and there you get 300-700k zeny easily. People play alot during weekdays. Things changed.
 

The best way to sustain players and keep the community active is to encourage certain activities permanently rather than isolate them to a specific time frame. Dapara week is the only time most players get on and grind because most are lazy to consider grinding at a lower rate and it has also become an habit for me to only grind during weekends. 
 
Grinding isn't so bad and neither is farming so long as it isn't a fruitless effort. It's bad enough that WL opens rarely but you have a 2 entry limit and inspite of using all drop rate buffs, sometimes you get no drops at all.

 

Grinding is awful, full of macroers on FP, it's either Crescentia's spamming 3 pets afk or tanks spamming Brandish storm/Grand cross for 2-5 hours. And farming, do you know how many Blop Cards Odin has? or Captain Vador cards? There's like 2 each on the server. All Jawaii cards are extremely rare except for Frilldora mobs. Killing a 38 millions HP boss and not getting a card or even drop, is not funny.

 

If they want to make another pay to win item like the Thief potion i won't mind but it needs to be over 100%, drop rates are under 1%, a Thief potion makes no difference whatsoever. Best example, i went to wl dungeon on my main full drop rate buff = no card, then i go on an alt ml 30,no vip, nothing at all, and i get a Shy lady tani card. How's that even fair? People who spent money and time to get better gets no reward, but some random scrub like an alt with no buff or gear gets a good card. Idk, you explain me.

 

Gravity won't fix the drop rate, they can't, they don't know how to fix it. They will probably just insert another drop rate item to bandaid the core problem.
 

I've said this in another thread, but encourage players to do dead content like Himmelmez's Chamber and all the bosses in Dark Whisper and Forgotten Payon by boosting their usefulness. There's so much content available in this game that can be put to good use rather than come up with fresh ones to keep players active. 
 
How about alternative automated events instead of Trivia that gives everyone equal opportunity to win? Trivia has really good rewards and is the only good source I can find for honing hammers, DNA boxes and 3day VIP, but sadly it's a typing contest where only a few take part in. I'd prefer an event that everyone would take part in and rely purely on luck so that it doesn't favor anyone in particular. 

 
TriviaBot is flawed, people just memorize the questions and answer before they even read it completely, that's not good sportmanship. And i blocked Public chat on my main char since 2013, full of toxic stuff and kiddos/wannabes/notice me senpai around. That bot was made on an era where RO2 was literally dying, nothing to do but afk and do some GvG battles on WoE. We had VEP's ( Volunteer Event planners) some time ago but they all quit (Lanie, TidusPeco, MorningRose, Saridragonfly etc) also WarpPortal or Gravity refused to give out REAL rewards on their events, like seriously,  nobody's gonna waste their time for a crappy event boxes. (*Shouts to Maridah*)

Even check Varitas event for Valentine's day, a Chocolate for 2-3rd or more places. I don't blame her/him though, he/she's doing job for RO2/Dragon Saga/Requiem.

 

I already stated this several times, Colosseum needs to be active and competitive again, many people i asked that already quit the game on 2013, said that the most attractive event they have played on MMO's(Aside WoE on RO1), was this Colosseum hours, people who loved PvP could get their gear for PvP, the ones who didn't love it, could go PvE or Bapho Hard and get their PvE gears. That's how the game should be, not seed runes screwing up all the -_- game.

 

 

Idk who brought the idea of the diamond system, but they are saving the game with that, specially the most wanted scrolls.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:30 AM

TriviaBot is flawed, people just memorize the questions and answer before they even read it completely, that's not good sportmanship

 

While that's true to an extent, there are nearly 10,000 different possible questions the bot asks. The anagram/blank questions and math questions are all randomly scrambled each time as well, so flat-out memorizing them isn't as simple as it seems. Players who have seen a lot of questions definitely have some distinct advantages in guessing them though.

 

 

 

How about alternative automated events instead of Trivia that gives everyone equal opportunity to win? Trivia has really good rewards and is the only good source I can find for honing hammers, DNA boxes and 3day VIP, but sadly it's a typing contest where only a few take part in. I'd prefer an event that everyone would take part in and rely purely on luck so that it doesn't favor anyone in particular. 

 

 

I could use your ideas and suggestions if you've got any. I've been wanting to expand the types of games the bot could offer for some time but the restrictions of what's possible through the public chat/whispers is a bit tough to deal with. I recognize from the start that a game like Trivia isn't fair to everyone since it relies on your typing ability, memory, and just general aptitude for solving word puzzles, so something with a more even playing field would be a good contrast to offer in addition to that.

That said, while a minority of players are most active in Trivia, the game does have a fairly wide player-base with nearly 2,000 unique character names having won at least a single round, and an average of about a dozen different winners during each round so it's not completely dominated by just a few people.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:24 AM

That's not true, actually alot of people farm Diamonds all day, everyday, you can make 10,000-20,000 diamonds in a day, get 1-2 Baphomet cloaks and there you get 300-700k zeny easily. People play alot during weekdays. Things changed.

 

Holy S.....  :p_omg:  how did you do that? collects 10k-20k diamonds in a day were like impossible  :p_swt:

would you mind to teach me?  :p_love:


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:11 AM

that's easy., alone i can do nearly 3K diamonds an hour...so if you farm 6-7hours you can do the same

 

Wolves' cave for the win...farm and farm.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:34 AM

@Vau, I don't disagree with diamond farming being quite popular but it isn't everyone's cup of tea. I'm talking about the general mindset of people and something like diamond farming doesn't contradict it. Diamond farming is something that's fresh and I'm sure it's going to be popular for the time being but in due time it will also become a thing of past and people will demand novelty again. I stand by what I said and I know it's a bad idea to isolate drop rates to a set period like exp rates are right now. In a way it's forcing players to only farm during that time alone. 
 
I'd rather address only specific mobs and their respective drop rates than increase overall drop rates in the game or add another drop rate buff (please, we have enough already). From what I see it's just the end game content after Forgotten Payon that have unreasonable rates. They could just nerf down those mobs and fix the drop rates for them alone instead. Changing overall drop rates is a major game changer and will affect all aspects of the game from pet farming to obtaining mats for crafting gears (not to mention how this will in turn flood the game with more pets and OP cres and professions like artisan and smith favored even more) - and that's just the tip of the iceberg. 
 
@Tonitrua, I'm not sure how long Trivia has been there, but if it's been anything over a year then 2k chars having won is a really small number. I've worked with/run MMORPGs for a few years and I can tell you that on average there's over 250k chars made within a year and RO2 should have somewhere around that many chars created each year as well. Besides, I felt that it is dominated by a handful right now from the time I've been here. I do read public channels quite often and every four hours I do find trivia flooding my chat box bothersome(lol) but it's mostly the same players winning it on their mains and alts. I can come up with a few unique event ideas that benefits everyone alike. 
 
Maybe you guys can bring back VEP and start hiring again? Not sure if the topic already exists but I have only seen VCR hiring being active. I wouldn't mind applying for that if I get to work with a few others to introduce some new new events. Coming up with event ideas on your own is one thing but execution and output might not produce favorable results. It's better to have all the pros and cons of an idea reviewed by a group who have different perspectives.  

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