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[lorenz1375]

Haven't really tested on a max lvl char but with my lvl157 GX set to 120luk the diff is around 600-1.2k (on edp) damage in favor to HBP, is it because of the lack of petal card? How bout ones with DR compounded?

[Ashuckel]

because the faw is giving 16% crit damage and 4~5 atk, while the hbp is giving 15% crit dmg, and prolly about 75~80 atk

[CadburyChocolate]

you need to do MS excel on this coz it depends on your other equips too

[lorenz1375]

I'd probably try it sometime later >.>

Thanks btw

[blackCROSSCY]

FAW works best when specialized to the max, like full fatal10 enchants and petaling, giving you an enormous bonus of 56% crit damage boost and some atk boost at 120luk. HBP can't compete with that.

However, if you need a bunch of all-rounded stuff, like both the aspd and crit, HBP's better than having a half-assed FAW since you can still add that wakwak or petaling into your HBP anyways. FAW can't provide the kind of allround bonus that HBP can if you want a variety of effects. Also partly explains why raydric carded FAWs aren't always hot-selling. These are situations like when you only need one more aspd to hit 193 aspd, and still want neutral resist for example, where a FAW with full aspd would be overkill for aspd, then that HPB's probably better.

Generally speaking, you should be speccing your character to make full use of a maxed spec FAW though

Edited by blackCROSSCY, 29 February 2016 - 01:48 AM.

[lorenz1375]

Welp I'd just probably change the enchant ones I get hold of some zenys

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Does special luck also provide +1 aspd by +12?

[Ashuckel]

Every Special >Stat< grants the same bonuses per refine, just changing wich stat ofc

[lorenz1375]

Nice to hear that thanksss ><

[MyNameIsTaken]

Not sure if this helps but my crit damage goes down by 3.5-4k when i switch to FS16 Wakwak FAW from a Fatal6 ASPD1 Petal FAW

[blackCROSSCY]

because crit boost is meant to give you a lot more crit damage than adding attacks? From that setup your FAW gave you a total of 46%(assuming 120luk) crit dmg boost compared to 107~117 atk gain.

Wakwak FS stuff is meant for skill attacks.

[Ashuckel]

Dont forget DD DA damn you! :v

[Usurper]

FAW works best when specialized to the max, like full fatal10 enchants and petaling, giving you an enormous bonus of 56% crit damage boost and some atk boost at 120luk. HBP can't compete with that.

However, if you need a bunch of all-rounded stuff, like both the aspd and crit, HBP's better than having a half-assed FAW since you can still add that wakwak or petaling into your HBP anyways. FAW can't provide the kind of allround bonus that HBP can if you want a variety of effects. Also partly explains why raydric carded FAWs aren't always hot-selling. These are situations like when you only need one more aspd to hit 193 aspd, and still want neutral resist for example, where a FAW with full aspd would be overkill for aspd, then that HPB's probably better.

Generally speaking, you should be speccing your character to make full use of a maxed spec FAW though

 

 

Thanks to this very detailed explanation, I've finally decided to just get +9 Menblatt HBP. I know this is regarding GX equipment but after reading this, It seems that my SC will benefit more from the HBP than a half assed FAW( since dex is my only stat that reaches 120).

 

 

Edited by Usurper, 13 April 2016 - 05:14 AM.

[fuyukikun]

specialized FAW is like a ranger (master of something), while HBP is like a shadow chaser (jack of all trades, master of none)

[Usurper]

^

Yep, and to think that I was about to spend a huge amount of zenny for a FAW  . +9HBP is cheaper than FAW in Thor.

Edited by Usurper, 13 April 2016 - 05:17 AM.

[lorenz1375]

A hell lot cheaper lol

[Lazaruce]

I sold my deathblow HBP due to deathblow FAW's better bonus crit/crit dmg wise. I carry both for constant greed and only use FAW when it's absolutely needed