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[youkidding12]

Thank you all guys, learning all of the informations from yours, I decided try to play different classes to discovering which classes is my favour, keep it slowly than try to make it main

And yes, I have a few starting fund, since the GMs from IRO are really doing something to make IRO better, like maketing or TI or anti-bit, the forums and so on(well, at least they tried, if you ever played CRO or TwRO which already closed, you will know my feeling, and I hear that JRO is even better than IRO but sign for don't understand a single Japanese word:'( ) therefore I don't mind to paid a little USD as supporting. And after I opened a huge amount of April boxes, I feel a little disappoint and thinking that my support is more than enough

Back to the topic, "RK MVPing is more convenience than Gene", is that talking about pure Crit build? Or DB build? If so, can pure Crit build still can leveling effectively with DB(since the HP are lesser than DB)?

About gene, what is the pros and cons about an instance-cast build? Is that great or just better?

Edited by youkidding12, 17 April 2016 - 05:51 PM.

[3025140119203620510]

RK is pretty much come down to DB for MvPing. There are some MvP DB RK will suck against, just like many other classes. The issue with DB RK is that it relies on party buff such as Magic String in order to become fully effective. You're going to have a bad day with higher end MvP without a party as RK. Gene can just bomb for 200-300k and wing away then repeat.

 

Agi/crit build RK gears are pretty expensive. Maintain the rune and its mat are lot more painful than getting Acid bomb in my opinion. Agi/crit also can't really contest with anything higher than mid-tier MvP especially for average geared players. Leveling Agi/crit RK to 175 is also pretty hard as well as nobody wants it in their party.

 

You may read somewhere in iRO about BB+IB. I would advise not to even bother with Bowling Bash build. It may work great in other servers, but not iRO. The decades old gutter-line bug is very frustrating for non-RCX users. The nail in the coffin though is the iRO exclusive Bowling Bash after-cast delay. They put a huge nerf on it by adding 1-2 second delay to the Bowing Bash skill so you can't spam it like other official servers. The delay cut down the DPS so much that you can't even kill a wizard in WoE TE lol. 

[youkidding12]

I guess I should try gene first, but what about the build and gear? Do you have any experience about an instant-cast gene? And which Homun is better?

[LiteAdi]

at first i have gene which i can farm ogh after my ranger and gx hit 175 it getting lots easier and less supply then gene to do ogh

[Kuroyukiii]

just make a gene and buy 1 million token. keep acid bomb the mvp and use token if you die. rinse and repeat. Then when you get your first mvp card/or worthy items, sell it for good amount of zeny, buy top tier item for your gene, but this time, you do more damage and might die less, so the cost for token is reduced. Spam acid bomb on mvp and token if die. Rinse and repeat. Get your next mvp card/worthy item, sell it for load of zeny. Now you are successful, go to forum and you will be mvp expert and card price maker.

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It doesn't look like OP want to be stuck in the endless cycle of grind though.

You can spend months making a 175 ranger just to grind the same instance more efficiently so that your other character can grind the same instance more efficiently, and so on, and so on.......

You don't have to go through this grind cycle as a Gene. Just have fun and go straight to MvPing. It may cost a bit more in the very looong run, thanks to bots, but I think it's really worth the opportunity cost of not having to grind months in and months out. 

Gene is a very diverse class with a lot of progression. I can't really advise you on a specific build. There are some guide out there you should read  and take it as a guideline. Honestly it's part of the fun to build your character and select your gears, despite there are some part of the community who look down on people with some of their gear choices.  If you mess up, you always have opportunity to reset and start over in renewal. 

Edited by 3025140119203620510, 20 April 2016 - 03:29 AM.

[Havenn]

just make a gene and buy 1 million token. keep acid bomb the mvp and use token if you die. rinse and repeat. Then when you get your first mvp card/or worthy items, sell it for good amount of zeny, buy top tier item for your gene, but this time, you do more damage and might die less, so the cost for token is reduced. Spam acid bomb on mvp and token if die. Rinse and repeat. Get your next mvp card/worthy item, sell it for load of zeny. Now you are successful, go to forum and you will be mvp expert and card price maker.

 

Or make a gene, buy the armors that help you defend what is killing you so that you don't waste money on spamming tokens, which lowers you damage (loss of buffs) as well as potentially giving away the kill to your competition. 

 

Bring some tokens, duh, but don't plan your character around spamming tokens. 

[Kuroyukiii]

Or make a gene, buy the armors that help you defend what is killing you so that you don't waste money on spamming tokens, which lowers you damage (loss of buffs) as well as potentially giving away the kill to your competition. 

 

Bring some tokens, duh, but don't plan your character around spamming tokens. 

 

well, after so much time spent on internet, i was tought not to take everything literally.

 

Token just for 100% sure chance you will not waste any opportunity to kill mvp by dying. Those armor thing is basic essential part of RO gameplay even for non mvp.

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That's really one of the reason why RO is a pretty good RPG. There are no "ultimate" gear for every situation and MVPs but you have to pick and choose carefully which gears to bring for any particular situation. Though I argue the Cash Shop pay2win had creep in the ultimate gear zone for few items like the Backpacks and FAW. 

[LiteAdi]

just make a gene and buy 1 million token. keep acid bomb the mvp and use token if you die. rinse and repeat. Then when you get your first mvp card/or worthy items, sell it for good amount of zeny, buy top tier item for your gene, but this time, you do more damage and might die less, so the cost for token is reduced. Spam acid bomb on mvp and token if die. Rinse and repeat. Get your next mvp card/worthy item, sell it for load of zeny. Now you are successful, go to forum and you will be mvp expert and card price maker.

dont forget gum first . so far how many mvp card u get kuroyuki?

[Kuroyukiii]

dont forget gum first . so far how many mvp card u get kuroyuki?

 

none, if i got cards i will make a pro guide for sure. I am one of those sad veterans.
 

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Is MVP Card even worth farming given the time, consumable, and upfront gears required to do so? To me if you're farming MvP card, it's more of a trohpy than the zeny itself.  

[sb120495]

Is MVP Card even worth farming given the time, consumable, and upfront gears required to do so? To me if you're farming MvP card, it's more of a trohpy than the zeny itself.  

This is true. Unless you're farming a large set of Bloody Branches while under the effects of gum and double drops you won't be reliably obtaining MvP cards. I personally do it because i like tracking down and hunting the MvP before others.

[Kuroyukiii]

Is MVP Card even worth farming given the time, consumable, and upfront gears required to do so? To me if you're farming MvP card, it's more of a trohpy than the zeny itself.  

 

Well, for me farming mvp is one of the best end game thrill, woe used to be my first, but not anymore. Wasting time to kill mvp is a win-win situation. If you are lucky to get card, thats like you hit jackpot in vegas casino. It make your adrenaline rush. /gg

Edited by Kuroyukiii, 21 April 2016 - 02:39 AM.

[Name85738]

glad I got my gene in jumping jane event era

its insane to level-up a merchant 1-40 just to become alchemist and lv 1-40 rebirth to become bio 1-99(total of 48m EXP... per kill is only 2k exp).

[cory]

glad I got my gene in jumping jane event era

its insane to level-up a merchant 1-40 just to become alchemist and lv 1-40 rebirth to become bio 1-99(total of 48m EXP... per kill is only 2k exp).

 

Where are you leveling only getting 2k EXP / kill?  Sounds really off.

[3025140119203620510]

The OP got some serious amount of prize medals,  I'd say he will be a Gene in 30 minutes, given he can find illution flower for sale at a reasonable price hehe.