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#1 tin0

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:02 AM

see the picture,i have 80 agi and i have 173 aspd. im just wondering why my aspd didnt increase although the fallen angel wing description said for every 20 base agi = +1% aspd so i have now 80 agi = +4% aspd but nothing happened to my aspd its still 173boy%20betlog%20faw%201_zpseemzfxdl.jpg

 

 

 

 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:12 AM

You generally need more than 10% equip aspd modifier to actually gain 1 flat aspd so not getting 1aspd from a 4% aspd increase isn't uncommon.

 

Edit: just realised, am I feeding a troll?


Edited by yamasakai90, 04 January 2017 - 07:12 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:24 AM

Check irowiki page about aspd to see how it is calculated
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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:54 AM

Edit: just realised, am I feeding a troll?

The past few weeks on WP forums: If you aren't a troll, then you are most likely feeding one.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:54 AM

Tin0! Long time no see!


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 10:33 AM

Tin0! Long time no see!

 

oh yeah im quite in this few months,i am playing pokemon go in the morning then iro in the evening till midnight sometimes 7am i sleep. hehe im back because of x2 exp event for leveling purpose


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:11 AM

Attack speed is number of attacks per second.It is calculated like this: 50 / (200 - aspd),

in your case 50 / ( 200 - 173 )  = 50 / 27 ~ 1.85, it means you attack 1.85 times per second.

You increased it 4% means 1.85 + 0.04*1.85 = .1.85 + 0.074 = 1.924, calculated back 200 - ( 50 / 1.924) =

200 - 25,98 = 174,02.

Considering you gained no aspd means you had some decimal in your 173 aspd  mean you aspd is 173.xy or 172.xy

im not sure if they round it where xy is decimal part that is not included in equip window.

 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:42 AM

How would answering this kind of question mean you were trolled?

 

As you can see in the post above mine, ASPD in Renewal is pants-on-head retarded. Its a pretty fair question IMO.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 02:13 PM

Attack speed is number of attacks per second.It is calculated like this: 50 / (200 - aspd),

in your case 50 / ( 200 - 173 )  = 50 / 27 ~ 1.85, it means you attack 1.85 times per second.

You increased it 4% means 1.85 + 0.04*1.85 = .1.85 + 0.074 = 1.924, calculated back 200 - ( 50 / 1.924) =

200 - 25,98 = 174,02.

Considering you gained no aspd means you had some decimal in your 173 aspd  mean you aspd is 173.xy or 172.xy

im not sure if they round it where xy is decimal part that is not included in equip window.

 

Your ASPD increases even if it's not displayed, of the effective number of attacks per second is only increased in integer multiples of ASPD?


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 02:52 PM

ur attacks per second only changes when the number changes


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:39 AM

ur attacks per second only changes when the number changes

 

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:05 AM

i think Azzy said it was calculated from 200 before, but i always thought it was from 193. i think maybe some things like the conc/awake pots are calculated using 200?

 

because 193 would make more sense in this case where the number doesn't change (171 = aspd without muramasa, total +12% aspd):

171 + 2.6 = 173.6 (using 193)

171 + 3.5 = 174.5 (using 200)

 

the aspd in the window rounds down so it would show 173 regardless of whether it's 173.0 or 173.9


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:42 AM

=V

 

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:51 AM

i think Azzy said it was calculated from 200 before, but i always thought it was from 193. i think maybe some things like the conc/awake pots are calculated using 200?

 

because 193 would make more sense in this case where the number doesn't change (171 = aspd without muramasa, total +12% aspd):

171 + 2.6 = 173.6 (using 193)

171 + 3.5 = 174.5 (using 200)

 

the aspd in the window rounds down so it would show 173 regardless of whether it's 173.0 or 173.9

 

Yes you are right it seems it is calculated from equipment aspd that is calculated from 195 and not 200 if irowiki

info is accurate,and yes it seems it is rounded down,

 

 

=V

 

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Yes it rounds it down to 173.0 and than applies equipment aspd,what a bad luck for lord knight lol.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:54 AM

haha so close


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:00 AM

how come 173.99=173 , it must be rounding up

 

do game designer know how math works  :p_swt:


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:17 AM

how come 173.99=173 , it must be rounding up

 

do game designer know how math works  :p_swt:

 

Because everything in the game is rounded downwards so as to not have to create too many commands which could potentially overcomplicate the game. If ASPD was rounded up, it would make you wonder why skill damage is always rounded down for multihit generated skills.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:59 AM

if there's one word the kRO devs love in this game it is "floor"

 

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 08:32 AM

Filir's pinion then.  :heh:

 

So to get 193 aspd you need to be over 100?


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 09:44 AM

Filir's pinion then.  :heh:

 

So to get 193 aspd you need to be over 100?

Yes, otherwise 190 is your max


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 12:03 PM

You can get 193 as a 99 3rd :P
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 12:30 PM

You can get 193 as a 99 3rd :P

 

That was my question. Why can't I?


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 12:33 PM

 

if there's one word the kRO devs love in this game it is "floor"

 

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Unless it's something against the player, then they use ceil() ^


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