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#1 YangeWenli

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:42 PM

Someone posted in another thread kunai splash formula

 

Spray Kunai
KO_HAPPOKUNAI
Target: Self
AoE Size: Levels 1 - 4: 9x9. Level 5: 11x11. Splash Type
Damage Formula Type: Weapon / Fixed
Number of Hits: 1
Element: Equipped Kunai
Max Level: 5
Range: N/A
Required SP: 10 + 2 * Skill LV
Fixed Cast: 0 Seconds
Variable Cast: 0 Seconds
Cooldown: 0 Seconds
Aftercast: 0.5 Seconds
Duration: N/A
Extra Info: Deals Ranged Damage
Damage Formula In +: (3 * ( Kunai ATK + Weapon Attack + Regular Attack Damage )) * (Skill Level Used + 5) / 5

 

does this mean this skill is affected by the left and right hand masteries or this formula is wrong?


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 01:41 PM

Im pretty sure this one is the actual formula, or the new one, the updated one

 

Variable Cast: 0 Seconds
Cooldown: 0 Seconds
Aftercast: 0.5 Seconds
Duration: N/A
Extra Info: Deals Ranged Damage

^
what we have is only 600% atk and sadly its Melee 

 

Note : infact we didnt get updated formula for ninja classes ever since released

thats including melee tree skill, ranged and magic tree skills, most of formulas are bugged

well its expanded classes anyways ;)


Edited by Silvianna, 18 April 2017 - 01:45 PM.

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#3 YangeWenli

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 01:55 PM

KRO pls


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 02:12 PM

I mean, just wanted to point a little thing :v

(3* (Gibberish formula wich is actually just attack formula counting in kunai attack))*((Skill Lvl+5)/5)

Is the exact same thing as

(3* (Atk formula))*((5+5)/5)

v

(3*(Atk))*2

v

(3*2(Atk)

v

6*(Atk)

v

Atk: 600%


Why ppl overcomplicate things is beyond me

Edited by Ashuckel, 18 April 2017 - 02:12 PM.

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#5 YangeWenli

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 03:43 PM

as so same thing with some added fluff


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 08:04 PM

yup , added regular atk + weapon atk 


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:20 AM

Just doing retest

it works so fabulous 

eddga procs, rwh procs , awesome lol especially eddga since its melee

procs a lot lol

 

and looks like Weapon Atk plays crucial part here

i tested a bit

+10 Crimson Dagger as main hand and +0 Faceworm leg normal as offhand

and versus the opposite position

+0 Faceworm leg normal as main hand and +10 Crimson Dagger as offhand

 

+0 faceworm leg with 110 base atk, its combo deal higher damage than +10 crimson dagger with 55 base atk

both same lv 3, and of course crimson dagger increases atk by a lot, still cant beat normal faceworm leg

 

so there, the strongest dagger for main hand will be FQL[2] due 180atk and slots

the second one is Grimtooth dagger 180 atk too and enchantable

currently im using +9 fs12 grimtooth as main and +12 cheap crimson dagger with skel worker card ( lol )

lvlin in midti, with eddga procs i deal 38-40k aoe 

but hey im not sure about mastery part, right and left,

what if it is true ?  :heh:  why do we have that skill and there is no way you are making auto attack ninja right, must be lol

 

imagine with megs ;D

ohh looks like we should keep quiet from now, dont ask them to change to ranged :V :V :V 

 


Edited by Silvianna, 19 April 2017 - 05:23 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:41 AM

Ohhh so high weap atk still beat the +15  crimson dagger with all its equip attack? Thinking to get +12 FQL then  :heh: .


Edited by YangeWenli, 19 April 2017 - 05:42 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:42 AM

Yupp you could try by yourself, test +10-15 crimson with +0 Grimtooth or FQL

swap them as main hand or offhand, see the result 

 


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 05:48 AM

why do we have that skill and there is no way you are making auto attack ninja right, must be lol


I'm trying to make Shadow Warrior Kage here '-'

ohh looks like we should keep quiet from now, dont ask them to change to ranged :V :V :V


But but... Rockridge set increasing Kunai Splash as well as ranged attack. If we stuck with old formula we won't get full benefit of it.

And isn't Eddga proc from ranged attack too? I recall using Eddga on my bow Chaser and transform from auto attack with bow
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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:01 AM

it is but not sure why
melee proc seems higher than ranged, my rebel use eddga , round trip like no tomorrow but compared to oboro , the eddga procs a lot on oboro
 
providing SS ( without eddga procs )
+12 Crimson Dagger as main hand, 2x skel worker cards, and +9 grimtooth as offhand 
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this one is 15-18k, the damage variants

+9 grimtooth as main hand, +12 crimson dagger as offhand  
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damage variants, is around 25-29k

you may think it is because of lv 4 weapon, but actually before this
i also tested 2x lv 3 weapons, +10 crimson dagger and +0 faceworm leg, switching them main to offhand
+10 crimson dagger ( 55 base atk ) still lose against faceworm leg ( 110 base atk )

btw sometimes this skill hits 2 times, i have no idea why
just try to spam it eventho it has 0.5 secs delay ( i wasnt using any delay reduction items )

Edited by Silvianna, 19 April 2017 - 06:02 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:27 AM

You realize it is the exact same as GX mainhand/offhand right? Only mainhand Weapon ATK is counted. Crimson offhand still gives a lot of eATK

 


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:37 AM

My default setup before was 2 +15 Crimson Daggers one with 2x ak and other clean I got a +12 FQL 2x ak and see the dmg in mid ti +12FQL mainhand does abit more went from 9k to 11k on dark ping and 19k to 21k on the hillwinds I need some specialized MGs :sob:

 

and yea +12 eddga and FQL proc a good amount


Edited by YangeWenli, 19 April 2017 - 06:52 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:41 AM

Don't forget as Kunai Splash ignore weapon element, you can use any converter/crimson dagger and spam Kunai Splash on charmed area. Easy +200 eAtk
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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:56 AM

 use Earth kunai if you want to hit harder on  Hilwind 

yup i use 10 earth charms since the element of kunai splash based on kunai element,

 

alsoo you can use Faux Orc boss hat, to get weapon perfection buffs, gives you more 25% damage to medium and 50% more to boss


Edited by Silvianna, 19 April 2017 - 06:58 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:59 AM

i have a Faux orc boss hat but pain to proc xD


Edited by YangeWenli, 19 April 2017 - 07:01 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:00 AM

:heh:  :heh:  :heh:  yeah lol i know the rate really bad but

try it first on oboro


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:13 AM

btw you could test too later

main FQL with 4x racials offhand

vs

main +15 Crimson with 4x racials 


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:16 AM

I wonder what better weapon for Kunai Splash in the future, dual dagger or Illusion Huuma Wing Shuriken?
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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:24 AM

i hope its huuma because swirling petal is really strong if you stack a lot EA gears except temp boots

and kunai explosion too,  but that 3x3 aoe is so meh and it has cooldown, if it has cast delay , still acceptable even with 3x3 aoe  :heh:


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:39 AM

btw you could test too later

main FQL with 4x racials offhand

vs

main +15 Crimson with 4x racials 

 

wait 4x race and not 2x race/2x Ele or 2 race/1size/1ele?


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:45 AM

 you will need a lot of size cards and they are kinda difficult to get right? even nowadays,  racial card is rare

 

2x race 2x size deal the highest dps i think, 

but 4x race save you from getting bald  :heh:


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:48 AM

lol does save you


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:05 AM

Just checked, new Kunai Splash weapon will be a Huuma shuriken, gives 9% kunai splash damage increase per refine,  lv 4 and has 300 weapon atk , 2 slots

Horii Sheettt !  :rice:


Edited by Silvianna, 19 April 2017 - 08:07 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:13 AM

Just pick any dagger setup GXes use, ITS THE EXACT SAME.


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