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#1 d1ofmany

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 03:30 AM

if def tops at 2800 what is the best enchant for armor, bcz i already have more than 2800

for protector

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 03:32 AM

Resistance if you do pvp.
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Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:09 PM

Perhaps 2700 is the actual limit for def, several people insist on this. However, I have always enchanted all my armour pieces with as much extra def I can. Maybe I am mistaken and what I do is foolish. But I like the HUGE aoverall def and it is seems to have been working wonders in every situation. Depending on what one can afford... I have used RH scales (both S1 and S2) and short range def IM xeons in all my armour pieces, even some 15/15 compounded xeons (legacy from S1 again), but I guess if all these are too exotic, normal 10/10s could always be used. Since in S2 the number of xeons that can be used in armour is quite limited, I cant find anything else that makes sense. Oh, OK, there are some cool SvS xeons that can be used too, rather hard to acquire though. Also, we should not forget the -def debuffs in PvP (some people even use the top -750 carus ones!), that is another reason why I choose infinite def, haha. :D
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 12:20 AM

yeah even if def is capped at 2700 it's always better to have more at least 3150 if u can
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 01:48 PM

Personally I didn't go any farther than 2700.
Try to get resistance items from Theme Battle, to avoid putting resistance in your armor.
I'd say CON. Definitely Protectors need more health!!
What level are you? You can get 3000 defense, later on, without having to put more def in armor.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:39 PM

I'm 67, tnx for help guys. Gonna try to make 2 sets, resistance and con ones, 1 for tanking and 1 for pvp. Btw does resistance help with any raid bosses, what boss and what resistance?
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:51 AM

I'm 67, tnx for help guys. Gonna try to make 2 sets, resistance and con ones, 1 for tanking and 1 for pvp. Btw does resistance help with any raid bosses, what boss and what resistance?

ion con
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:58 AM

I'm 67, tnx for help guys. Gonna try to make 2 sets, resistance and con ones, 1 for tanking and 1 for pvp. Btw does resistance help with any raid bosses, what boss and what resistance?

Lord Weinerman, Fire resist. thats all i can think of though
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:49 AM

Are there any better xeons than ion mine CON?
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 10:10 AM

Are there any better xeons than ion mine CON?


Yeah RH and Biskra xeons but they´re rare.. Rh gives you exp. 4 Con and 4 X (can be Int/dex/mnd/str)
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:45 PM

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If you think you will be in the gear for some time then dont waste those slots on IM con.

Go for DC & Squid con xeons. If you are the tank for those raids then generally there wont be a second tank there and all know those con xeons are tank roll.
RH would be next but they are not as good and there will be competition rolling on them.

Fill your gear dc/squid you will be set! and now cash shop has xeon removers some time... ^^ yey.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 04:05 PM

Oh yea I forgot about DC con, how much does that give? Biskra gives 6con.

Btw for resistance against bosses
Ruinhorn: wind
Biskra: water
Roboguard/Plugger: lightning
Lord Weri: fire
Idk about Doom Cheras
Tyrant is all phys attack I think.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 11:16 PM

Is TB weapon+shield good combination or should i get RH/bisora ones? And what is min hp for raids?

I'm curently on vacation but can't wait to get back to tanking.
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 12:20 AM

whatever weap u get doesnt really matter cos none of them stack on con (i mean rh or bisk or tbf)

shield the same

and idk 7khp should be enough for tank + you got elem buff and wl buff which will make you have over 10khp
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 12:45 AM

whatever weap u get doesnt really matter cos none of them stack on con (i mean rh or bisk or tbf)

shield the same

and idk 7khp should be enough for tank + you got elem buff and wl buff which will make you have over 10khp


Well with 7k hp DC can melt you in seconds.... belive me, ive been there. Almost 9k hp base (looking for more), TD items and WL and elem took me to 14k hp and died 20 times in there...
That fear/dot/hush combo is lethal http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/118.gif

One more thing... i allways thought RH was curse, am i mystaken there??

And some weps can give some nice HP. RH sword or axe gives 16 hp every reinforcement, and tyrant gives con and hp (dont know how much, need to check that)

My goal as tank is 10k hp base, so i prefer con over defence in armor. Still need to balance HP with resistances, but its a pain in the ass. I still need to figure out some way to cap them without losing to much hp. Maybe actually going to TBF would help me :rice:

Best of luck, Dess
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 06:45 AM

i didnt mean 7khp is enough for dc >.<

i meant 7k hp is enough for common raid such as rh and biskra and js tanking
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 06:55 AM

Boo

If you think you will be in the gear for some time then dont waste those slots on IM con.

Go for DC & Squid con xeons. If you are the tank for those raids then generally there wont be a second tank there and all know those con xeons are tank roll.
RH would be next but they are not as good and there will be competition rolling on them.

Fill your gear dc/squid you will be set! and now cash shop has xeon removers some time... ^^ yey.

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i refuse to not roll on CON xeons, everyone needs CON not just tanks, and those DC scales are sexeh
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 06:59 AM

i refuse to not roll on CON xeons, everyone needs CON not just tanks, and those DC scales are sexeh


it bugs me a bit too, i know tanks need to stack hp etc. but my :rice: squishy tempest could use some nice con xeon too :lol:
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 11:34 AM

Well with 7k hp DC can melt you in seconds.... belive me, ive been there. Almost 9k hp base (looking for more), TD items and WL and elem took me to 14k hp and died 20 times in there...
That fear/dot/hush combo is lethal http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/118.gif

One more thing... i allways thought RH was curse, am i mystaken there??

And some weps can give some nice HP. RH sword or axe gives 16 hp every reinforcement, and tyrant gives con and hp (dont know how much, need to check that)

My goal as tank is 10k hp base, so i prefer con over defence in armor. Still need to balance HP with resistances, but its a pain in the ass. I still need to figure out some way to cap them without losing to much hp. Maybe actually going to TBF would help me :rice:

Best of luck, Dess



Plugger is worse....... He can double DOT you. 500+426 for 60 secs... Enjoy... :lol:
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 03:30 PM

i refuse to not roll on CON xeons, everyone needs CON not just tanks, and those DC scales are sexeh


Yup, i know everyone needs hp, Con or HP xeons, but who need them more??
I would let the tank roll on that xeons alone anytime (unless its an RH con/mnd, but hey, mnd is for rads too)
Maybe its my point of view cos i have a tank, a radiant and some dps. I want the tank to be good (the one whos tanking)So i think they need them more than my rad or my dps. I know how hard is to get decent HP for them, specially for tanks on S2 armors.
Tanks and healers are 2 classes that cant be bad or whole pt is gonna fail.
DPS?? Well, it will take longuer or increase AEDs sales

Support your tanks, its really expensive (in lants) to equip them to be good. And besides that, you need them :rice:
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 04:04 PM

People misunderstand when they hear 2800 is the max defense. It definitely is not. That comes from the rumor that defense is capped at 80%. To say it more accurately having more defense than 2800 which is about 80% damage reduction will take away upgrades you could do to stats that would serve better For example:

Increasing your defense to say 3500 might only give you an extra 2% (I'm just guessing, don't feel like doing the math). The point is, you can keep adding defense and your resistance goes up but you'd have to add a LOT to get the smallest increase. Take that versus have a lot of extra health or resistance and you see why it's best to stop after about 2700-2800. That is fine for PvE. For PvP I like the defense to be a bit higher to account for debufs.

Like others have already said, I like CON on high level prots armor. The extra health works as a buffer to damage in normal situations and is crucial when you tank for a raid where bosses can hit for almost your full health amount.

The protector was really messed up in S2 but the over-powered heals made up for the short comings. Now that Gravity has nerfed the heals and not fixed the other problems prots just suck. For normal PvE prots are fine. For high level raids prots with S2 armor will be in trouble. For PvP, just forget it... I think one of the devs should play as a high level prot and try to tank for DC or something with S2 gear and enchants and see what they have done to the class.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:25 AM

Plugger is worse....... He can double DOT you. 500+426 for 60 secs... Enjoy... :lol:


tempest dot remover ftw! and its instant! op! :rice:
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:28 AM

Yup, i know everyone needs hp, Con or HP xeons, but who need them more??
I would let the tank roll on that xeons alone anytime (unless its an RH con/mnd, but hey, mnd is for rads too)
Maybe its my point of view cos i have a tank, a radiant and some dps. I want the tank to be good (the one whos tanking)So i think they need them more than my rad or my dps. I know how hard is to get decent HP for them, specially for tanks on S2 armors.
Tanks and healers are 2 classes that cant be bad or whole pt is gonna fail.
DPS?? Well, it will take longuer or increase AEDs sales

Support your tanks, its really expensive (in lants) to equip them to be good. And besides that, you need them :lol:


i agree, i rather have very strong and well geared prot and rads in my raid party than capped lvl dps, well i would rather have both :rice:
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