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#1 Carat

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:12 PM

It is a real possibility that classic loki's population will keep dropping and may eventually be worthless.
It is undeniable because the population has dropped since 2013 and it has been on a plateau for years now. We also know why players have lost interest in classic.. lets be honest, a game that no longer progresses in major features and content will eventually be very boring which is evident not only to the players that have quit but also to current players, they don't even pvp at all, only in WOE which is more of a guild social activity which is also done better on Chaos server.

In the event that classic's active players drop to 100 or less, can players fully merge to chaos server without exception?

And don't tell me there's 300-500 in classic because half are not actual players lol.

My question is will it be a server merge or an individual character merge?

If it is a character merge then can the option to do so be implemented early on like soon?

 

 

 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:19 PM

Classic has a lot of issues, most of them stem from an apparent halfhearted approach toward it by the staff....

  • Forgotten maint announcements
  • Soon hazy forest will have been in for a year (with no reward) but it is still being announced as if july 21st was not that long ago. 
  • The challenge dungeon could use polish, still. 
  • There's no reason to compete in WoE. Part of that is due to rampant RMT, the rest of that is down to server age, excessive drop rates and a ridiculous creation system.
  • The slow progress of the cache system
  • Client installation issues
  • Lack of thought for events/event rewards
  • Crazy renewal equipment
  • TIs never changing
  • BG sucks, feeding infinite supplies into the game

Its more the little things than the big things. Little things that make you realize they couldn't spare 5 minutes to update the announcer, so why expect anything big? Whenever the staff get a fire lit on the forums, it's always about fixing pvp/woe related things. Yet PVM is the majority of the week. People can farm ET using exploits, so what's the point of doing that legitimately etc....

 

Green ales still work....

 

Little things. 

 

 

I'd be okay with a merge if I got to take all my stuff with me. No holds. I competed and made my stuff fairly. I could have done that on renewal. 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:23 PM

classic player here i never played renewal not interested in learning either

xellie has some valid points

i also dont like white / blue pots being available in bg (defeats purpose of ranked brewer) when u got unlimited pots for free. also ive had quite a few people try to play this game iRO classic & the client doesnt work (install, patch, etc) which tells me the game leader / owner just doesnt care (btw game didnt work for me either when i first started playing, took like 2 hours for me to tweak and configure / fix it)

classic is dying. GMs dont seem to care enough
 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:33 PM

I'd be okay with a merge if I got to take all my stuff with me. No holds. I competed and made my stuff fairly. I could have done that on renewal.

There's no reason you can't take your stuff with you because loki is handled by the same IRO and items are obtained the same way.

But yeah would you play on a server with 10 other people? The answer is no, you cant enjoy it, not even your "stuff".

In philippine ragnarok basically the most of the head team revolved around corruption, GM's sold zeny, mvp cards and even god items. [Removed]


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:35 PM

I'd guess there's about 100 people WoEing as is. So it's quite dire. 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:39 PM

I'd guess there's about 100 people WoEing as is. So it's quite dire.

Exactly. So at WOE times, there's only really 200 actual players at the best day of the year. Without WOE there's only 100.

To be honest with you loki feels like I'm playing on an offline server, even worse when I see vendors lol.

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:40 PM

during WOE i would say theres about 100 active players 150 MAX


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:44 PM

during WOE i would say theres about 100 active players 150 MAX


Thank you for being honest

I do think as well that there's only 50 players without WOE and 150 with.
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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:44 PM

There's no way there is 150... its lower than that for sure.

 

if every guild was an average of 20, that would be 100ish. But they're not, most guilds are a bit smaller than that. 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:51 PM

xellie is right we are looking at 100 active WOE players or less now (& thats sad)


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 04:24 PM

Time to let it go. These last 200 players are the winners who have cleared the game until its last stage.

 

Also if you're all gonna merge Classic to Renewal, please put instant level 175 ticket in Cash shop (I always dream of having level 175 SC in WoE too). They also need +14 refinement event xD


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 04:28 PM

If God items are broken down into pieces and MvPs extensively checked for dupes, I wouldn't care if there was a merge.

Most of the Classic population play Classic for a reason though, they dislike Renewal. The remaining people sustain the game, as long as they remain, so will Classic.
Maybe I am a bit off, but people like Xellie that used to openly support the cash shop don't even bother anymore, which is sad. Classic probably will become a sinking ship eventually.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 04:31 PM

Speaks volumes that this was moved.

Sweeping Classic under a rug is what's wrong with it currently.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 04:52 PM

If God items are broken down into pieces and MvPs extensively checked for dupes, I wouldn't care if there was a merge.

Most of the Classic population play Classic for a reason though, they dislike Renewal. The remaining people sustain the game, as long as they remain, so will Classic.
Maybe I am a bit off, but people like Xellie that used to openly support the cash shop don't even bother anymore, which is sad. Classic probably will become a sinking ship eventually.

Nah it's actually a loy harder to make them god items pre renewal.

 

They don't sustain the game there's only 50 without woe and 150 with woe at the best day of the year.

The population graph is downhill and it has been since the beginning of 2013.

Classic players have quit already.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:15 PM

So Xellies ... about joining Renewal to PvM with me ... 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:16 PM

And this thread is now already under the rug ... wtf? lol


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:27 PM

Nah it's actually a loy harder to make them god items pre renewal.

 

They don't sustain the game there's only 50 without woe and 150 with woe at the best day of the year.

The population graph is downhill and it has been since the beginning of 2013.

Classic players have quit already.

 

It's actually easier on Classic because you don't have your pieces randomly dropping. Maybe getting enough people to roll seals is harder.
Also, if there weren't enough people to sustain the server, it wouldn't exist. Do no underestimate the big spenders still out there.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:38 PM

It's actually easier on Classic because you don't have your pieces randomly dropping. Maybe getting enough people to roll seals is harder.
Also, if there weren't enough people to sustain the server, it wouldn't exist. Do no underestimate the big spenders still out 

Randomly dropping? You need to at least explain.

The quest itself is unquestionably harder for pre renewal players. If you're only going to look at the difficulty part then it would make more sense to disassemble chaos ones than loki ones.

The server is already at a net loss. 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:13 PM

Speaks volumes that this was moved.

Sweeping Classic under a rug is what's wrong with it currently.

 

yeah lol they moved this topic into a sub-subsection nobody checks LOL

 

btw if we gona merge servers delete all god items woe/1/2 + all god item pieces + all god item components.. thanks, oh & also delete all mvp cards and check +7/8/9/10 items (armors/weapons if they are duped) & check for dupes, thanks


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:17 PM

Randomly dropping? You need to at least explain.

The quest itself is unquestionably harder for pre renewal players. If you're only going to look at the difficulty part then it would make more sense to disassemble chaos ones than loki ones.

The server is already at a net loss. 

 

You can't target pieces, they drop randomly. It could takes years to get all of the pieces for one God item.
Chaos is established already and all of the God items had to be reassembled from a merge a long time ago.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 08:33 PM

Can try to merge with Thor instead, they are in dire need for more new players than chaos renewal does


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 08:37 PM

You can't target pieces, they drop randomly. It could takes years to get all of the pieces for one God item.
Chaos is established already and all of the God items had to be reassembled from a merge a long time ago.

Mr. Myzery

First off I'm not a virtual materialistic person who gets jealous of other people having stronger items or the same items. I am by no means saying you are a virtual materialistic person but your opposition in the thread says a lot.

I don't own a god item btw I'm just not a fan of making people who already worked for the quest, do it again.
This is a game, you're here to have fun not to prove yourself anything because no one cares and everything you do here is worthless in real life, have fun instead of creeping or lurking on other player items :)

Random dropping doesn't make it harder because there are more castles available in chaos WOE. It enables everyone to collect more and sell more pieces meaning there would still be more gods in chaos because there are always more materials available for it.

With 1 castle available, the resource would be very scarce and the competition would be very difficult as well.
Therefore classic god item are much much harder. That is how economics work

So again if you want to look at the difficulty then it makes more sense to disassemble chaos ones.
 

yeah lol they moved this topic into a sub-subsection nobody checks LOL

btw if we gona merge servers delete all god items woe/1/2 + all god item pieces + all god item components.. thanks, oh & also delete all mvp cards and check +7/8/9/10 items (armors/weapons if they are duped) & check for dupes, thanks

I dont own any mvp or god item but if you think there are a lot of dupes in loki then you'd be wrong because there are universes more in chaos :D


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:20 PM

There's no way there is 150... its lower than that for sure.

if every guild was an average of 20, that would be 100ish. But they're not, most guilds are a bit smaller than that.


I appreciate your honesty Xellie
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Posted 23 May 2017 - 02:00 AM

Feel free to merge but leave all gods and mvps behind. Since not much competition there to begin with
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Posted 23 May 2017 - 02:03 AM

But again this is kind of defeat the purpose of the server it self. Ya all ask for something prerenewal and then now want to merge to renewal kinda doesn't make any sense. Then why would you guys ask for it in the first place =_=
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