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#1 Kazara

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 03:16 AM

Templar/Radiant/Tempest Skill Changes Suggestion :

 

Hush  Radiant_Hush.gif

 

Hush DNA for instant cast removed.

 

Reason :  Hush is a rather offensive skill, and this change will turn the skill in a more "self defense" skill (it will be harder to hush an enemy DPS  in the enemy team or in 1v1, but it will most likely be used when the Radiant is getting attacked to defend himself).

 

Rejuvenation  Templar_Rejuvenation.gif

 

Able to be used on a target.

 

Reason : This would increase Templar's support abilities (atm Templar is not that great in support for lower level dungeons) as well as Radiant ones for more focused healing on 1 target.

 

Soul Depuration  Templar_Soul_Depuration.gif

 

Max level changed from 10 to 5.

 

The effect/CD at level 5 will be the same as it was at level  10.

 

Reason : This is one of those self-support skills that needed an improvement because rarely used, and even more rarely maxed. This change will give tempests a great tool for a lower amount of skill points, and we would certainly see some players starting use this skill.

 

Notice : This change is similar to the one Warlord had on Mental Mitigation.

 

Magic Shield Mastery  Templar_Magic_Shield_Mastery.gif

 

Definitely should be moved to Tempest and value block defense scaled up by x2.

 

Reason : Radiants, but also Templars, use mainly Staff, unlike Tempest that usually use wand and magic shield.

 

Weapon of God and Blessing of Haste Templar_Weapon_of_God.gifTemplar_Blessing_of_Haste.gif

 

Moved to Radiant.

 

Reason : Much more appropriate in the Radiant tree, since those are purely support skills.

 

 

Seal of Acceleration  Tempest_Seal_of_Acceleration.gif

 

Casting Speed buff changed  to 25% at max level.

 

Reason : This skill is way too powerful and broken on a tempest, let alone as a team buff.

Considering Turan's nature to support others, we decided to keep the AOE effect of the buff  but reduce the amount of casting speed it buffs.

 

Notice : In its current form,  this buff gives tempests the ability to chain sleep + 3 ground AOEs in about few seconds, without having the possibility for enemies to react at all. It also makes skills like Terms of Service way too powerful.

 

Seal of Acceleration (Alternative Change)  Tempest_Seal_of_Acceleration.gif

 

This would be even more balanced but not sure it can be done :

No changes to the skill effect, but  Terms of Service and Sleep shouldn't be affected by it. That way Tempests can't sleep you in 0.70 seconds and defilers can't Terms of Service you so fast, while retaining the full effect on the ground AOEs. Those CC skills are too powerful to be casted in such short time and this change would balance a lot the situation!

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Kazara, 12 June 2017 - 03:17 AM.

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#2 Vulpes93

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 03:23 AM

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I'm not sure, radiants have plenty of skills. There simply will not be any buffers any more :C

 

On the rest I pretty much agree.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 03:30 AM

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I'm not sure, radiants have plenty of skills. There simply will not be any buffers any more :C

 

On the rest I pretty much agree.

There isn't any second job with less skills than Radiant, Radiant has only 10 skills on second job.

 

Thank you for the feedback ^_^


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 04:35 AM

I will never see Haste buff in this game any more :<


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:16 AM

Weapon of God and Blessing of Haste Templar_Weapon_of_God.gifTemplar_Blessing_of_Haste.gif

 

Moved to Radiant.

why? i enjoyed my melee tempest just sleep > aoe > melee to death


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:25 AM

why? i enjoyed my melee tempest just sleep > aoe > melee to death

I hope you joking ._.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:02 AM

why? i enjoyed my melee tempest just sleep > aoe > melee to death

 

:heh:  good one


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:46 AM

Templar/Radiant/Tempest Skill Changes Suggestion :

 

Hush  Radiant_Hush.gif

 

Hush DNA for instant cast removed.

 

Reason :  Hush is a rather offensive skill, and this change will turn the skill in a more "self defense" skill (it will be harder to hush an enemy DPS  in the enemy team or in 1v1, but it will most likely be used when the Radiant is getting attacked to defend himself).

 

Absolutely NOT. Its 1 skill which helps the radiants survive. From the damage in new sets 3k this skill is vital for them. The DNA must remain.

 

Rejuvenation  Templar_Rejuvenation.gif

 

Able to be used on a target.

 

Reason : This would increase Templar's support abilities (atm Templar is not that great in support for lower level dungeons) as well as Radiant ones for more focused healing on 1 target.

 

OK.

 

Soul Depuration  Templar_Soul_Depuration.gif

 

Max level changed from 10 to 5.

 

The effect/CD at level 5 will be the same as it was at level  10.

 

Reason : This is one of those self-support skills that needed an improvement because rarely used, and even more rarely maxed. This change will give tempests a great tool for a lower amount of skill points, and we would certainly see some players starting use this skill.

 

Notice : This change is similar to the one Warlord had on Mental Mitigation.

 

OK.

 

Magic Shield Mastery  Templar_Magic_Shield_Mastery.gif

 

Definitely should be moved to Tempest and value block defense scaled up by x2.

 

Reason : Radiants, but also Templars, use mainly Staff, unlike Tempest that usually use wand and magic shield.

 

No. Everyone should have a choice of what they want to wear.
A staff or a wand with a mag. shield is the choice of everyone.
Doubling the block is also madness, the commanders/zerks and sin/sr SS will be hit - zero. (block now bugged)

 

Weapon of God and Blessing of Haste Templar_Weapon_of_God.gifTemplar_Blessing_of_Haste.gif

 

Moved to Radiant.

 

Reason : Much more appropriate in the Radiant tree, since those are purely support skills.

 

No. The radiant does not have enough skill points or place on the skill panel.

 

 

Seal of Acceleration  Tempest_Seal_of_Acceleration.gif

 

Casting Speed buff changed  to 25% at max level.

 

Reason : This skill is way too powerful and broken on a tempest, let alone as a team buff.

Considering Turan's nature to support others, we decided to keep the AOE effect of the buff  but reduce the amount of casting speed it buffs.

 

Notice : In its current form,  this buff gives tempests the ability to chain sleep + 3 ground AOEs in about few seconds, without having the possibility for enemies to react at all. It also makes skills like Terms of Service way too powerful.

 

Seal of Acceleration (Alternative Change)  Tempest_Seal_of_Acceleration.gif

 

This would be even more balanced but not sure it can be done :

No changes to the skill effect, but  Terms of Service and Sleep shouldn't be affected by it. That way Tempests can't sleep you in 0.70 seconds and defilers can't Terms of Service you so fast, while retaining the full effect on the ground AOEs. Those CC skills are too powerful to be casted in such short time and this change would balance a lot the situation!

 

Tempests will hate you.

 


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:09 AM

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#10 jebac098

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:40 AM

Sure nerf the best skill on temp np but bring back the stun........you just wanna nerf every class and as you posted for domi changes ,you wanna make it even stronger lol


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:47 AM

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#12 Pineapples01

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:08 PM

Templar/Radiant/Tempest Skill Changes Suggestion :

Hush Radiant_Hush.gif

Hush DNA for instant cast removed.

Reason : Hush is a rather offensive skill, and this change will turn the skill in a more "self defense" skill (it will be harder to hush an enemy DPS in the enemy team or in 1v1, but it will most likely be used when the Radiant is getting attacked to defend himself).

-- hush range is 20m, if instant cast gets remowed, it will be no possibilty to use it, beacause of 1sec cast (when radi "protects himself" from mage, hush with cast can be canceled easy when enemy will run out of range, its enough time to do it and radi cant move properly during the animation), also radi can't properly hush inside 20m range (without instant cast), because there are many magic professions with instant skills (with ~4m range), and these professions can run ~16m with speed buffs or dash and use instant stun (practically this distance (~16m) is much shorter because human reaction dont let you press button instantly and huge speed of enemy (domi, defi, druid, elem)).

Rejuvenation Templar_Rejuvenation.gif

Able to be used on a target.

Reason : This would increase Templar's support abilities (atm Templar is not that great in support for lower level dungeons) as well as Radiant ones for more focused healing on 1 target.

-- this heal is "a drop in the sea" even on small levels.

Soul Depuration Templar_Soul_Depuration.gif

Max level changed from 10 to 5.

The effect/CD at level 5 will be the same as it was at level 10.

Reason : This is one of those self-support skills that needed an improvement because rarely used, and even more rarely maxed. This change will give tempests a great tool for a lower amount of skill points, and we would certainly see some players starting use this skill.

Notice : This change is similar to the one Warlord had on Mental Mitigation.

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Magic Shield Mastery Templar_Magic_Shield_Mastery.gif

Definitely should be moved to Tempest and value block defense scaled up by x2.

Reason : Radiants, but also Templars, use mainly Staff, unlike Tempest that usually use wand and magic shield.

-- radi should have a choice between survalibility, and heal power, if radi likes survaliblity - this skill will be useful for him.

Weapon of God and Blessing of Haste Templar_Weapon_of_God.gifTemplar_Blessing_of_Haste.gif

Moved to Radiant.

Reason : Much more appropriate in the Radiant tree, since those are purely support skills.

-- there is no point to move these skills, beacause radi already has enough good skills that must be learned at 10, even at pve build it will be not enough points to learn these skills properly.


Seal of Acceleration Tempest_Seal_of_Acceleration.gif

Casting Speed buff changed to 25% at max level.

Reason : This skill is way too powerful and broken on a tempest, let alone as a team buff.
Considering Turan's nature to support others, we decided to keep the AOE effect of the buff but reduce the amount of casting speed it buffs.

Notice : In its current form, this buff gives tempests the ability to chain sleep + 3 ground AOEs in about few seconds, without having the possibility for enemies to react at all. It also makes skills like Terms of Service way too powerful.

--Seal can be decreased, but to ~35-40%.Seal is not bugged skill, - 50% chance debuff is bugged skill, because he can be used even under hush.

Seal of Acceleration (Alternative Change) Tempest_Seal_of_Acceleration.gif

This would be even more balanced but not sure it can be done :
No changes to the skill effect, but Terms of Service and Sleep shouldn't be affected by it. That way Tempests can't sleep you in 0.70 seconds and defilers can't Terms of Service you so fast, while retaining the full effect on the ground AOEs. Those CC skills are too powerful to be casted in such short time and this change would balance a lot the situation!


Edited by Pineapples01, 14 June 2017 - 11:25 PM.

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#13 jebac098

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:43 AM

Best skill on temp? Which skill would that Be? The 5 sec cd teleport? Or the 3 ground aoes, 1 of which can stack and 1 with op range. Or sleep?

5 sec cd bugged port, to the wall fail so many times lol ,slow aoe that dosnt do any dmg on boss or comie,zerk with am,op range aoe 10 sec duration,sleep without seal well GL.But i can see your a big fan of kazar.....


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:20 AM

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