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#1 bigcfromrbc

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:32 AM

I plan on doing a 90 vit build which I have figured out.   My real issue is how much Int do we need to keep up self buffs and how much agi do I need to have 185 aspd?  Thanks!


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:53 AM

With 90 vit you will get stunned, but you wont have it for a long time.. Its up to you.

 

Dont think you will need int to keep self buffs.. I have int 1 and thats enought to keep it always on.

 

About agi, that depends. Are you using a mace, 1h axe or 2h axe? There is some differences in the damage size penalty and aspd...

 

There is a size penalty damage table:

 

Weapon Type                   Small                               Medium                                 Large

 

One-handed Axe                50                                      75                                       100

Two-handed Axe                 50                                      75                                       100

Mace                                   75                                     100                                      100

 

1h Axes gives more aspd than maces, and maces gives more aspd than 2h axes

But we do not have a 1h axe that gives a good damage, at least, thats what i guess...

 

2h axes gives more damage, but you cant use a shield.

 

You will need something like 7x ~ 8x agi to get 185aspd. I've calculated just using bs buffs, berserk pot and bless+agi

 

Hope it helps

 

 

 

 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:43 AM

doesn't matter how much int u put in, when you have Power Maxi on, SP won't self recover. If u turn Power Max off even 1int is enough to keep using all bluff.

With Bless, Agi, Rush, Berserk. Lvl99 and job 50. You need 76 Agi to get 185(1h axe/shield 1h mace/shield 2h axe) it doesn't matter which weapon setup u use, even tho they have different aspd. Different weapons only affect the X number. Example 185.X

I recommend to just have 184 atk speed, u only need 64/65 AGi depends on ur weapon setup. Then put that extra pts into str vit
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:13 AM

I'm using maces.   I don't really want to go that high with agi since I want to be able to mob still.   


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:21 AM

Which with me using bucklers I can take more damage.   I may do the agi build after all.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:55 AM

just did some calculations on Iro calculator.
On this server at the moment, the minimum stats for 185 atk speed with a mace and shield is base Agi 66 + 24 (Job2+Agi 12+ agi food 10) with Bless&Agi bluff + berserk and self bluff. You get 185.06.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 04:05 AM

Even on stats screen, ASPD only shows 3 digits.
It's actually round up to 3 decimals, and no bonus on whole number. Therefore it's not important that u go after a whole number ASPD.

Example 184.985 is faster then 184.050 and almost no different to 185.050.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:07 AM

Is there a stat calc for Restart?  I've tried googling one but seem to fail at it lol So 66 agi will get me there?  I'll have to adjust with an old calc then.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:12 AM

Is there a stat calc for Restart?  I've tried googling one but seem to fail at it lol So 66 agi will get me there?  I'll have to adjust with an old calc then.

 

A calculator especially for restart i do not know...

But im using this one:

 

http://calc.irowiki.org/

 

 

Which with me using bucklers I can take more damage.   I may do the agi build after all.

 

Remember, shields decrease aspd too. Its not a larger decrease, but it decreases...

i'm also using maces, and feels fine with my aspd.


Edited by FIint, 16 August 2017 - 07:16 AM.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:29 AM

According to that calc with a buckler, 1hander, and buffs I need 66 agi at least to reach 185

 

At 99 

 

Str 91
Agi 66
Vit 50
Int 18
Dex 48
Luk 4
 

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:31 AM

 

According to that calc with a buckler, 1hander, and buffs I need 66 agi at least to reach 185

 

At 99 

 

Str 91
Agi 66
Vit 50
Int 18
Dex 48
Luk 4

 

 

Something like that..


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 11:20 AM

Should I remove some str for vit? 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:38 PM

Remove ur luck int and str, put them all in to Vit.
82vit + food + job + 2x necklace = 100vit

100vit is a game changing stats.

The rest put in Str, that will be 70+.
With renewal, str doesn't need to be whole number and it doesn't give bonus atk, so put it over 80 is not very effective.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:41 PM

And u don't need 48dex, even 38 is more than enough. With food, blessing, job+12, and weapon research(+20 hit). You will have 365hit
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:47 PM

Are you doing the high vit with the aspd build? 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:12 PM

Yes, but not so high ASPD, I have total 100 vit.
184 atk speed. Therefore I can get 80+ base str.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:16 PM

Battle smith at renewal will be very similar, we all need very high vit to PVP/WOE/MVP/mobbing.

We do not need 50-60 dex like other Merle class, because we have a job12 bonus and weapon research skill.

We need ASPD to spam skill to have a good DPS.

The rest into str for ATK.

So yeah, basicly there's only 1 build.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:16 PM

str too high man i dont think you need str in the 90s, damage doesnt change significantly enough to warrant those tasty stat points.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:48 PM

What's your stats? If you don't mind sharing.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:53 PM

I'm only Lv90.

I have many stats point left over, which I will add in when I got my end game gears so I don't -_- up my build if stats reset not coming out.

Currently
Str 61
Agi 51
Vit 71
Dex 38
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:00 PM

51 agi the most you gonna get?


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:08 PM

No, probably 66 or 57.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:40 PM

Thanks.   I still can't help but feel the str is low lol 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 04:09 PM

My str will be 80+ end game.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 06:13 PM

Could get some more points to work with in other stats by going 80 total vit and using a Stalactic Golem card to hit 100% stun resist

 


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