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#26 DarthaNyan

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 03:04 AM

3 issues with this:

 

1. Wizards are completely screwed. Try to cast something like LoV without accidentally starting fights with wandering real players.

2. Because bots don't play with any real skill, they're always over-leveled for their maps. Can YOU defeat 12 identical level 90 Bowling Bash bots coming for you from all directions at once? I certainly can't.

3. Bots play 24/7 and have no emotions. When they die, all you've done is taken them out of their farming cycle for maybe 3 minutes. When players die, over and over and over again, to bots that now kill them instead of just kill steal them, they give up. Result: The bots OWN the map, they don't just pollute it.

 

Now... if people want a couple of open PvP maps for the fun of -directly- competing with other people hunting on the map, that actually would be fun (just make sure it's a limited number of maps). As an anti-bot measure, however, it's terrible... you're giving the bots MORE control, not less. They WILL be re-programmed to PK.

 

Bots will have to be able to recognize each other, in other words they will need a FoF system of sorts. Fail that and hordes of bots will fight each other, accomplish such a system and players will probably be able to abuse it (depends on FoF implementation ofc).


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#27 umizu

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 04:55 AM

horrible idea lmao


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#28 Scottdfa

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:03 PM

Honesty this idea sounds like a fun pk map.

Another possible solution to counter botting would be to have captcha's in game that trigger every 30 minutes or when you change maps. The timer would have to be setup so that it could not be easily bypassed by relogging. Also, presumably, the captcha should not be on woe maps or on maps when an mvp is active...im assuming woe botting isnt a thing.

Not sure how feasible this idea is, particularly given the added cost it would likely require.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 02:02 PM

Honesty this idea sounds like a fun pk map.

Another possible solution to counter botting would be to have captcha's in game that trigger every 30 minutes or when you change maps. The timer would have to be setup so that it could not be easily bypassed by relogging. Also, presumably, the captcha should not be on woe maps or on maps when an mvp is active...im assuming woe botting isnt a thing.

Not sure how feasible this idea is, particularly given the added cost it would likely require.

 

Exactly the problem. The very idea that you think this is a "fun" PK map is the problem with the solution. Having fun with PKing bots will also result in having fun with PKing actual players.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 04:02 PM

Granted different bot farms may also end up fighting one another, but in the end it will have little to no impact on bots themselves.

 

 

This would be amusing to watch.


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#31 PinkWing

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 05:56 PM

Since we're requesting private server functionality, I'd also like for Kaho's Horns to be implemented as a donator-only item.

 

Thanks!

i think jap have pk server , so i think start frigg with pvp at least for test  as anitobot .

 

 

 

also , in some   program there is option , use teleport when see player with whilelist of names to ignore , so only freepk+disabled teleport and wings (yea yea i know useless card , item and +2 useless skillpoints) can do trick

 

 

ps also i want bow rogue for that server :gg:


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:52 PM

This would be amusing to watch.

 

LOL, yeah, that really would be a popcorn moment.


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#33 RainYu

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:14 PM

Hmmm... Activate it in one or two maps and see the result.

If it works good. If not, they can just deactivate it after maintenance.

 

There is no harm in trying thou? 


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#34 Yafilthy

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:18 PM

Exactly the problem. The very idea that you think this is a "fun" PK map is the problem with the solution. Having fun with PKing bots will also result in having fun with PKing actual players.

The thing is pk is fine most people would rather spend more time parting, leveling, farming, then pk. Obviously, there will be times when maps hot but you just stomp them out or change maps and dont lvl on pk map.  If you don't lose exp from pk death there should be little reason anyone should have a problem with taking a death and those little p2w rez will be spammed like woe white.


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#35 PinkWing

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:32 PM

The thing is pk is fine most people would rather spend more time parting, leveling, farming, then pk. Obviously, there will be times when maps hot but you just stomp them out or change maps and dont lvl on pk map.  If you don't lose exp from pk death there should be little reason anyone should have a problem with taking a death and those little p2w rez will be spammed like woe white.

 

well to begin with vip removing death penalty is screwed like 3% for non vip ,     1% for all must be

 

ps. maybe i should drop all and go to catskills


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#36 MasterGin

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:07 PM

This won't work, bots know how to teleport/fly when there's another person in the map. That's how some bots avoid being named/seen. And there are people who are abusive, we are talking about real players who are evil.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:28 AM

This won't work, bots know how to teleport/fly when there's another person in the map. That's how some bots avoid being named/seen. And there are people who are abusive, we are talking about real players who are evil.

 

"we are talking about real players who are evil."

 

:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:34 AM

The thing is pk is fine most people would rather spend more time parting, leveling, farming, then pk. Obviously, there will be times when maps hot but you just stomp them out or change maps and dont lvl on pk map.  If you don't lose exp from pk death there should be little reason anyone should have a problem with taking a death and those little p2w rez will be spammed like woe white.

 

Most people can be interested in leveling, it just takes one person or one group to essentially ruin your experience. Just don't level in PK maps because of PK? You do realize the whole reason you're on that map in the first place despite PK is active is because you found that THAT is the map you wanted to be on so that is just silly suggestion.

 

Do not get me wrong however, I will very much enjoy PKing people(if the option was available) which is why I know first hand with such a mindset that's not restricted to just me, it will ruin other player's experiences.


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#39 Namrok

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:46 AM

I vote yes for this.
Can we try PVP all map for few days?
IT WOULD BE AWSOME

 

 

 HELL YEAH

 its would be awesome

 

 

its tottaly doesnt work with bot problem.

 but its fun to kill fkn bots who steal your mobs

 

i as a priest can agidown, silence and more to stop they farm

 

if they on a "wing when other player nearby mod"  in maps like gef field with high ork,  we see a unstoppable winging bots, its bad to they farm too.

 

on ruRO a long time ago, gms emplyed a "event" in magma dungeon 2  -  + rates on this map  , and pk mode on.

 it was a MOST popular map in this month, not one a scary a pk, its was tottaly amazing expirience.

 

ofc im voted to PK mode everywhere... but iRO as i see is mostly pve community, and do not love arena and other pvp-fun things T______T

 

 

 

please. turn pk mode and one random map per week, and increase drop/rates in this location

its was s good event. 

 well, who dont like pvp, just can change location

 

 

but yap, its dont work like -bot war-

 

 

 

just think, when pk open , and bots fight with bots,  wall on wall... 100 on 100... i wanna record video with something like thise XD


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#40 AussieBlackBeard

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:51 AM

I can't see this being a long term solution though, more of a let the players deal with it until they get over PKing bot's kind of solution. 


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:36 PM

So, youd be fine if I had some booze and decided to troll players leveling in TF2 for example by spamming storm gust right at the entrance and basically disabling anyone trying to enter to level up?

I can see tons of people doing this for the lolz under the cover of "im killing bots"

Stupid idea imo
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 02:35 PM

Greif from someone SG lol mages trash. You would put your accout at high risk as well, moreover, there is multiple water reduction gears that most people have. 

IF people are 'playing' it is more fun then botlife scrubs just need to find a alternate map or warp.

This is how 90% player base plays the game. https://i.gyazo.com/...737f148479e.mp4

this server has more scammer then ever might as well get chance to kill them. 


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#43 MasterGin

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:45 PM

"we are talking about real players who are evil."

:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

Problem? You want people using SG or LOV on portals just for the laugh of it? Pretty sure that will be the end of this server if that happens.

Id rather warp them somewhere than getting innocent people killed. Atleast I can warp them back to town. In a nice way.

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#44 AussieBlackBeard

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 02:59 PM

So, youd be fine if I had some booze and decided to troll players leveling in TF2 for example by spamming storm gust right at the entrance and basically disabling anyone trying to enter to level up?

I can see tons of people doing this for the lolz under the cover of "im killing bots"

Stupid idea imo

 

OH OH can i join you?!?! :P


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 07:24 PM

I watched a movie, that may actually help avail this entire situation.

For an entire night, the devs could enable PK on all maps (includding towns),

and then see what is the result at the end of the night.


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