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#101 Nirvanna21

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:28 PM

The only legitimate reason I see why people quit is the cheaters but that's pretty much. Suras without Gods/MvPs are weak. Those Suras who one shot are loaded with OP gears and they one shot average players. I dont think I (or any Tao users) had problems with any OP Suras in WoE and that's because I also had Tao. Remove Gods/MvPs, and I think Sura with +14 KVM still cant kill me or most people for that matter  :pif:

 

The problem is the lack of reduction on the core part of the damage. Literally there remaining HP is directly added to their damage, as well as SP etc, but HP is the core issue.

 

It is pretty easy for a Sura to get 50k HP, which is literally 50,000 damage extra that cannot be reduced.

 

Don't need a Tao nowadays to get a good amount of HP, but yeah.

 

It doesn't help that most of them use auto targeting cheats, which are pretty f**king easy to spot :X


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#102 ChaoticRK

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:36 AM

Maybe if not kRO, then iRO can create their own class specialized shadow gears. Coz, the iRO community hg won't be coming back.
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#103 mildcontempt

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 06:15 AM

It doesn't help that most of them use auto targeting cheats, which are pretty f**king easy to spot :X

 

Preach it. 

 

I know some cats argue "but we'd lose so many players if we banned the cheaters".

 

Good. I'd rather play with fewer people who aren't actively causing my gaming experience to go negative. 


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#104 Bohem

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 06:45 AM

=S i dun think there is any good ways to remove cheats/cheaters 100%...  i guess we all gotta either deal with it or quit lol


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

Defending Aura reduces both GoH's ATK and HP damage. However since GoH level 4 and below are melee, RGs take full damage from it. Reflect Shield though returns it back to Sura LOL.
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#106 ChakriGuard

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:24 AM

And Suras don’t die to 40% Reflect. I believe I’ve seen a 180k HP Sura before 16.1 update. Who knows how much HP they can have now xD
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#107 Diskence

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:45 AM

Whole thread about WoE and the only people that actually actively WoE-ed is Chakri and Hissis. Why are the rest of you even talking about WoE? 

 

Nvm I forgot Hissis is a quitter too. 


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#108 Nirvanna21

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:59 AM

Whole thread about WoE and the only people that actually actively WoE-ed is Chakri and Hissis. Why are the rest of you even talking about WoE? 

 

Nvm I forgot Hissis is a quitter too. 

 

I have been doing it lately too :I


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#109 Hirumminho

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:00 AM

RK's are kinda bad now,with all those jRO gears, you can destroy them if you want.I think they don't fit the WoE scenario spamming DB all the way,they just made the class a dragon rider (better AoE than WL's/Sorc's before all those stupid jRO gears) .

 

Suras are more K than Dorams  :heh:

 

 

You can reduce dorams damage to nothing, you can't reduce GOH with gears at all, and most rock with Tao's so GG

 

Calm down guys, can't we all agree that both are OP? :heh: 


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#110 Ashuckel

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

Whole thread about WoE and the only people that actually actively WoE-ed is Chakri and Hissis. Why are the rest of you even talking about WoE?

Nvm I forgot Hissis is a quitter too.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:50 PM

And Suras don’t die to 40% Reflect. I believe I’ve seen a 180k HP Sura before 16.1 update. Who knows how much HP they can have now xD

 

Cleofe's Sura had 185k HP. +12 Abusive Tao VIT5 and other stuff. True 40% won't kill them but if you would switch gears to reflect then it will be fun. 80% reflect is easy.

​Reflect Shield (i prefer this over Reflect Damage because it will proc 100%)

40%

​+10 Valkyrie Manteau 25%
​Mad Bunny 10%
Strawberry Mouthguard 5%
​=80%

​Shield spell 1 with Anemo Shield additional 15% so you get 95% reflect. LOL

​I do this in PVP and works well with Guard 10. It's really funny too when Guard procs at the first red bar HP GoH. 


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:13 PM

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Didn't read the first 3 pages y0


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 03:10 PM

Cleofe's Sura had 185k HP. +12 Abusive Tao VIT5 and other stuff. True 40% won't kill them but if you would switch gears to reflect then it will be fun. 80% reflect is easy.

​Reflect Shield (i prefer this over Reflect Damage because it will proc 100%)
40%

​+10 Valkyrie Manteau 25%
​Mad Bunny 10%
Strawberry Mouthguard 5%
​=80%

​Shield spell 1 with Anemo Shield additional 15% so you get 95% reflect. LOL

​I do this in PVP and works well with Guard 10. It's really funny too when Guard procs at the first red bar HP GoH.


That works in PvP but after the first surprise death, the Sura can come up with many counter attacks.. Also, Phuema > All ranged skills. Crescent Elbow (which reflects harder than RG reflect) > OB/EB. But yes, in 1-1, Sura has the hardest time fighting against RG.

This Reflect tactic won’t work WoE however :P

Also this is one of my fav. Sura PvP video #RG #WL

https://youtu.be/CbKIuiGksQs

Edited by ChakriGuard, 27 October 2017 - 03:20 PM.

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#114 PervySageMarty

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 03:14 PM

So what we saying is that people dont wanna woe because its a one-shot fest and people dont wanna woe te because its not a one-shot fest.

The logical solution is to close the server.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:17 PM

Because obviously there is nothing between 0% damage and 100% damage.

 

Nope, not at all.


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:32 PM

So what we saying is that people dont wanna woe because its a one-shot fest and people dont wanna woe te because its not a one-shot fest.

The logical solution is to close the server.


People do tank a lot in TE but they are not unkillable. If they bleed, we can kill them. Yet people are still not happy. You’re quite right in a sense that the only solution is to close the server. I actually don’t like TE. It’s just the Autopot war lol
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