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#26 Ashuckel

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 07:14 AM

*stares at his ea3/2 sarah from a long time ago*
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Posted 08 November 2017 - 07:20 AM

Just because you made EA 2/3 with fewer tries doesnt mean the same can be applied for everyone, it is about RNG and what matters is how it works out on average. In fact, I made EA 2/3 myself after using 30 shards, but what I needed was EA 1/2 for the bonus with Fairy Powder. The fact that I was able to make EA 2/3(30 shards used) way before I got EA 1/2(100 shards used), is no indicator that EA 2/3 is easier than EA 1/2.


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 08:45 AM

i tried to run that instances to get shards .. but i soon figured its not for me lol


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 11:28 AM

But then those of you who got EA 1/2 after a few attempts would stop enchanting further. If we combine all our attempts (e.g. 3 + 200 + 150 + 1 + 100) as one large sample size EA seems quite rare then compared to parry?
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#30 Ashuckel

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 11:44 AM

im honestly baffled none got the point of what i said still

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 12:28 PM

Perhaps if you are a bit clear in what you are trying to say
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Posted 08 November 2017 - 12:32 PM

*stares at his ea3/2 sarah from a long time ago*


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 01:23 PM

*ea3


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 08:29 PM

Mine also ea1/2 in first try. 8 shards used lol
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 05:14 PM

Best would be a good card to put on the Fairy Leaf if you're a DB RK?


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 08:47 PM

Best would be a good card to put on the Fairy Leaf if you're a DB RK?

 

dmg/tank = DLE Vit3

Cast time = DLE Conc3, Zerom card

Tank/WoE = KBC


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 05:13 AM

My Gene is atm 120 str Tengu Cyliner CC, but I love AB skill way more.

I will later change to AB build (120 dex int) when I got my Old Midas.

 

 

My question is:

 

Should I go for 2x Sapphire wrist (2x GSC) or Fairy leaf powder (1x GSC) + Sarah ea1ea2

 

Does ACD also effect Gene AB dps? Cause I could borrow Mob Scarf + Kiel sunnies from my DB RK and drop the Tengu.

 

 

tl;dr  how much more dmg 2x SW GSC do, if the minor ACD is considered?

 

50k? 100k? ...?


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 05:29 AM

The calculation is not as simple. FLP combo provides with more range attack modifier, whereas the Sapphire buffs atk and matk more.

 

At the end of the day, your damage is very much still determined on your other gears and how much more ranged mod you have.

 

As a general answer to your question assuming all Genes have the standard gears that I've seen 9/10 Genes using, your dps should be higher off wearing the FLP combo.

 

Mob scarf combo also kills tengu when you have 120dex/int for Acid Bomb.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 02:03 AM

The calculation is not as simple. FLP combo provides with more range attack modifier, whereas the Sapphire buffs atk and matk more.

 

At the end of the day, your damage is very much still determined on your other gears and how much more ranged mod you have.

 

As a general answer to your question assuming all Genes have the standard gears that I've seen 9/10 Genes using, your dps should be higher off wearing the FLP combo.

 

Mob scarf combo also kills tengu when you have 120dex/int for Acid Bomb.

 

 

Does ACD increase the time I can throw the next Bomb?  I gues I stick wtih FLP combo and borrow the kiel sunnies each time from my RK.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 02:44 AM

Does ACD increase the time I can throw the next Bomb? 

 

Do you know what ACD does?


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:26 AM

Do you know what ACD does?

 

I don't know if it effect Bomb, cause the cast is unique. That's why Saphire Wrist has no effect at its cast time.

 

 

Does it work the same way as with DB at RKs? I don't have instant AB cast yet on my Gene.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:32 AM

cast time and after cast delay are two completely different things '-'


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:54 AM

I think my bad english confuse you.

 

 

In other words: do ACD (Fairy leaf combo, Kiel etc.) reduce the time AcidBomb can be recast.

I wish I could tell how it is to instant cast AB (bio5 hat lvl5 + temp dex boots)


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:22 AM

I'll just explain..

 

Cart Cannon has a 0.5sec aftercast delay,

Acid Bomb has a 1sec aftercast delay.

 

If you have high enough ASPD, you can cast CC up to 7 times a second and Acid bomb as well with 100% aftercast delay reduction.

Wearing a Kiel will remove 0.3sec before you cast Acid Bomb again and 0.15sec for Cart Cannon.


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:09 PM

I'll just explain..

 

Cart Cannon has a 0.5sec aftercast delay,

Acid Bomb has a 1sec aftercast delay.

 

If you have high enough ASPD, you can cast CC up to 7 times a second and Acid bomb as well with 100% aftercast delay reduction.

Wearing a Kiel will remove 0.3sec before you cast Acid Bomb again and 0.15sec for Cart Cannon.

 

thx for your help, we are doomed in this mmo without experts like you!  :thx:


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:40 AM

I'll just explain..

 

Cart Cannon has a 0.5sec aftercast delay,

Acid Bomb has a 1sec aftercast delay.

 

If you have high enough ASPD, you can cast CC up to 7 times a second and Acid bomb as well with 100% aftercast delay reduction.

Wearing a Kiel will remove 0.3sec before you cast Acid Bomb again and 0.15sec for Cart Cannon.

 

Found this interesting video on reducing CC animation delay. Which is aspd based in a very weird way...

 

Not sure if there is any other way to get around the offscreen-damage animation delay bypass so that it becomes truly aspd based.

 

From the video:

The animation for cart cannon normally does not take into account aspd; its speed depends only on the delay specified in the character .act file. However, if at least one offscreen target is hit, the client plays another aspd-based animation, overriding the default. This video shows the difference. 


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:52 AM

Found this interesting video on reducing CC animation delay. Which is aspd based in a very weird way...

 

Not sure if there is any other way to get around the offscreen-damage animation delay bypass so that it becomes truly aspd based.

 

From the video:

The animation for cart cannon normally does not take into account aspd; its speed depends only on the delay specified in the character .act file. However, if at least one offscreen target is hit, the client plays another aspd-based animation, overriding the default. This video shows the difference. 

 

The most standard way a lot of people use is by using trans candies. The animation of Cart Cannon does take into account the amount of ASPD you have, very much similar to your character just normally control clicking. If you are able to hit 5 times a second, that's your upside for casting a skill assuming that animation and cast delay is taken care of completely.

Then we have to talk about latency etc

 

What the video shows is a weird/funny method to bypass the animation delay for Cart Cannon.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 03:28 AM

any of you got ea2 on slot 3?

 

Ive only ever gotten ea2 on slot4; im wondering if i should stop enchanting slot3 until i get ea2 on slot4 to save on shards


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 09:36 AM

I've still not gotten my EA1/2 yet. But I've already reset my EA2/2


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 10:30 AM

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