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#51 BlackMeow

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:35 PM

i posted another thread, can you please see it and give your thoughts 


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:26 PM

Dual Wield  = you can put more cards on it  

Full leech like my previous reply =    3x HF on RTE  +  4x HF on Valk Knife   = HP always full     

I can save a lot of pots  , waste only SP pots if SP leech from gears don't proc....

or if you want more dmg    3x HF RTE  or  2x HF Crimson Sabre (I'll get the Holy one  for Shadow mobs)    on right hand
  and  4x race dmg  on 4 slots knife  /  4x AKs for MVPs   on  left hand

so you can do high dmg per MA and can leech HP back....

 

Note :  Main weapon I picked Sword because most mobs are medium size  and better damage on large size compare to dagger

and I don't rely on auto attack with this build , maybe need ASPD for reduce motion delay....

Nice suggestion using Crimson Sabres  :p_smile:  Haven't tried Enforcer Shoes yet since I'm still farming for it via GFSS  :p_laugh:


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:09 PM

Nice suggestion using Crimson Sabres  :p_smile:  Haven't tried Enforcer Shoes yet since I'm still farming for it via GFSS  :p_laugh:

 

Now I'm leveling Nogg  I can one shot everything with this set up 

My dmg in Nogg at this level :    25k on fire mobs   15k on Nightmare Terror


Triple Malicious BTE  = Water element  for Nogg mobs  +  3 slots for Hunter Fly 

Off hand  I used  Quad Hallowed  Cutter  (It's cheap :D  ,  I'll make  Quad Insecticide for Scarabas / Quad Beholder for NCT  later)

because I need more damage on Nightmare Terror (Shadow 3 that's take 50% dmg from Water)



I never run out of potions   , grinding and greed till I'm reach 90% weight limit or out of Fly Wings 

 

 

but if I want dmg on Shadow   I'll try  high upgrade Holy Crimson Sabre  with 2x Hunter Flies  


FYI :  Why I use Imperial Glove ? =  because  MA cast can be interupt 

  and Imperial Glove alone can prevent cast interupt   ,  no slower cast penalty like Phen card 
 also  give  5% ATK + 1 Slot (I'll leave it clean or put GS on it)       so MA GX can get benefit from it....

 

but on left slot .... I just borrow Celine Brooch from my WL  for  Max SP , flat ASPD   :D

I have no idea what accessory to get it ....  maybe BS Glove or Giant Protection (If I go for 120 STR)  later ....
          

 

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#54 YongkySH

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:12 PM

Waiting for scaraba and NCT vids hehe
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Posted 25 January 2018 - 12:02 AM

damn i just want an enforcer shoes for my RC GX. -_-in RNG 50 pcs of boxes opened and not even a single enforcer shoes. 


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Posted 25 January 2018 - 11:35 PM

For DD crit, will the 20% bypass and 20% attack be better than the 30% crit damage boost from temp luk boots? 


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 05:52 AM

In what I see in previous comments, temp luk is still better for DD crit.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:20 AM

If you're DD crit  >  Temp Luk 

If you're focus on AoE leveling  without EDP  /  leveling with  DD or Sword+Dagger (reason like I said before)  > Enforcer   

If you're always use EDP  (rich enough , who care ?)  + Katar  >  RC build  >  Temp Str  


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:22 AM

If you're DD crit  >  Temp Luk 

If you're focus on AoE leveling  without EDP  /  leveling with  DD or Sword+Dagger (reason like I said before)  > Enforcer   

If you're always use EDP  (rich enough , who care ?)  + Katar  >  RC build  >  Temp Str  

 

only the rich enough use enforcer :heh:
 


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 12:39 PM

only the rich enough use enforcer :heh:
 

 

Ha ha  I think so 

+7 Enforcer shoes  vs  EDP  price 

single +7 Enforcer shoes avg price in Eden   2b  =  28.5k EDP used  (70k per bottle , Ragial avg price)    


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#61 mikkotinamide

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:09 PM

Except that edp is consumable and you can re-sell enforcer shoes which will most likely go up in price as the OCP leaves.

1b in EDP is actually more expensive than 2b spent for +7 enforcer shoes.

 

Btw, has anybody tried using MA for leveling in NCT? And does one need to have full delay reduction gears and 190+ aspd to make use of the MA enforcer set-up?


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:18 PM

you dont even need delay reduction gears for >190 aspd when the FCT is there

wear a phen & you are good to go!

 

please. dual wielding. dont use your katar if you doing MA


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:23 PM

But doesn't iRO's MA have VCT? Doesn't it beat the point of having enforcer shoes?


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:28 PM

Just bring a maestro with you for strings and focus on hp/sp leech and damage.

 

 


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:30 PM

^ there is 0.2sec VCT to make just not "beat the point of having enforcer shoes"
 

Just bring a maestro with you for strings and focus on hp/sp leech and damage.

 
then spend your KP buying Gwing.
oh then might as well create for party selling leech service in NCT doing BB


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:35 PM

you don't need delay reduction if u can one-two shot mob
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:36 PM

^ there is 0.2sec VCT to make just not "beat the point of having enforcer shoes"
 

 
then spend your KP buying Gwing.
oh then might as well create for party selling leech service in NCT doing BB

 

That sounds like a good business hekhek. Sad because I don't have much time to do that because of too much work :sob:  :sob: 
 


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:58 PM

I mean won't phen reduce the 105% cast time reduction from enforcer? (i.e. leaving you with 75% VCT redux) Or will the damage boost be enough for leveling? Will enforcer cape + new wave sunglasses + medical scrub provide any significant spammability?

 

you don't need delay reduction if u can one-two shot mob

 

But what about NCT? Is MA leveling still doable there? 

 


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:01 PM

what makes you think that using MA is any different from using RC? both skills work the same way, aoe skills around you, that just use different weapons.
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:08 PM

Can currently do 2x MA per second. Just make those damages do more than 4 rc per second.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 06:01 PM

Sorry for the confusing question. But others already gave the answers I was looking for.


All I wanted to know was whether or not it MA leveling would still be viable (especially in NCT) without cast delay or FCT redux.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 06:34 PM

Sorry for the confusing question. But others have already gave the answers I'm looking for.


All I wanted to know was whether or not it MA leveling would still be viable (especially in NCT) without cast delay or FCT redux.


what makes you think that using MA is any different from using RC? both skills work the same way, aoe skills around you, that just use different weapons.


Can currently do 2x MA per second. Just make those damages do more than 4 rc per second.


I think there is no problem with it, GX are sly to be even hit/interrupted by Bells.
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 06:37 PM

Sorry for the confusing question. But others have already gave the answers I'm looking for.


All I wanted to know was whether or not it MA leveling would still be viable (especially in NCT) without cast delay or FCT redux.

 

Yes, because you would 2 shoot big bells.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:07 PM

Sorry for the confusing question. But others have already gave the answers I'm looking for.


All I wanted to know was whether or not it MA leveling would still be viable (especially in NCT) without cast delay or FCT redux.


Just need to sacrifice 1 slot for phen effect

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:30 PM


I think there is no problem with it, GX are sly to be even hit/interrupted by Bells.

 

^ true that. if you keep hallu.walk active  :heh:  :heh:

 

farm when your hallu.walk is active. rest when it's on cool down


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