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#1 bugzbobby

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 12:26 PM

Please tell me if STR give AP for a crossbow type hawker? thanks
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 02:47 PM

yes
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 10:18 PM

it gives ap. .but just a little i think . .
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 06:50 AM

My Crossbow Scout is 219 atm.
Str is your secondary stat for ap.

You get ap from...
dex
str
sen
...in that order

but you need to decide how much con your are comfortable with for accuracy
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 07:50 AM

My Crossbow Scout is 219 atm.
Str is your secondary stat for ap.

You get ap from...
dex
str
sen
...in that order

but you need to decide how much con your are comfortable with for accuracy



Thanks a lot, so I think I should make a new char then, I will do it on dex base and str is just to wear weapons that requires str..
But as per Aura Fairy, CON increases AP for bows isn't it?
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 08:50 AM

Str is the main AP stat for crossbows. Dex is the secondary. Did they change something? I don't see how you guys mixed that up.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 09:51 AM

Str is the main AP stat for crossbows. Dex is the secondary. Did they change something? I don't see how you guys mixed that up.

Str is for crossbow, for scouts to. anyways thats what it was and what I got told by zep
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 12:46 PM

Wow, how do you get that mixed up? Str is the prereq for all crossbows, that obviously points out that STR is your main ap source.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 12:58 PM

Thanks a lot, so I think I should make a new char then, I will do it on dex base and str is just to wear weapons that requires str..
But as per Aura Fairy, CON increases AP for bows isn't it?

Con does increase ap for bows - but bows and crossbows are different

Str is for crossbow, for scouts to. anyways thats what it was and what I got told by zep

Sorry that is my fault - i just had a brain fart while i was typing that. Strength is primary - and that is the way my character is built.

str
dex
sen

didn't mean to cause a stir - i'm not sure what I was thinking of at the time :angry:
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 07:33 PM

Con does increase ap for bows - but bows and crossbows are different


Sorry that is my fault - i just had a brain fart while i was typing that. Strength is primary - and that is the way my character is built.

str
dex
sen

didn't mean to cause a stir - i'm not sure what I was thinking of at the time :angry:


Does that mean I don't need to put con for my crossbow hawker? CON is for accuracy too right? SEN is for CRIT...
And what is a buffed set?
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 05:05 AM

yes you need con - it just doesn't give ap like it does for regular bows
but you will still need accuracy to hit

buff sets are sets of gear and jewelry usually with the max of a specific stat(like ap,acc,m-speed,etc). People put these sets on to buff their specific stat and then switch back to their fighting gear.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 05:38 AM

i can see wasting of stat points Posted Image
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 05:39 AM

do crossbow scouts fare well in PVP ?????
i mostly see knights
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 06:29 AM

no they suck, i had one. full +10 gear +12 hardenend raptor bowgun. +40 ap shield etc.. etc.. had the best statbuild. but it fails
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 08:10 AM

no they suck, i had one. full +10 gear +12 hardenend raptor bowgun. +40 ap shield etc.. etc.. had the best statbuild. but it fails


What did you think sucked about it compared to regular scout? The main difference that I can see is that you are forced into a trade off between accuracy/attack power with your stat build.

But there are some advantages that I prefer - I have pvp'd some bow scouts in clan with similar refined gear and it's been basically a draw - both ending with low hp and trading kills.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 08:53 AM

What did you think sucked about it compared to regular scout?


Cause the main source of Scout's attack power is dexterity. ..you will get few benefits from strength and yea a little hp but doesn't make any difference so its pretty wasting stat points. ..and scout don't need strength. ..i would say xBow would be better if they put alternative stat requirement str/dex so its fair to scout...
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 09:17 AM

I think you might have stated your xbox scout incorrectly (or just had a brain lapse like me).

Like we talked about above (though I spaced out and gave bad information the first time) Strength is the primary attack power stat for xbow - even on a scout. So it's not a waste of points in that respect.

But I do understand that most people like a scout for the dodge/accuracy - and in that respect the xbow scout is a waste because you have to compromise both of those.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 10:56 AM

The only benefit you will get from going xbow is a tiny bit of def. So that means your willing to lose acc/ap/dodge for a tiny bit of def?. I dont even know why their is an xbow scout in the first place.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 12:02 PM

u dont loose ap

i think xbow has more ap than bow...

but u loose: alot of acc and dodge

u win: a little more def and hp and some more ap
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 12:33 PM

Wait guys I'm so confused now..LOL @_@

I tried to make an xbow scout now he's 53 but compared to my regular bow scout, he has a better AP and def. (both of them with no armors or anything)
But I make it like STR, CON, DEX. I put it that way just to make it aspeed bit faster, CON for accuracy, and STR for AP. And I think it's good on that build.
I just need to put P7 on weapon and do upgrades.

Whacha think guys?
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 12:47 PM

better u use g7 or d7

atkspd is not that good anymore...
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 03:08 PM

What did you think sucked about it compared to regular scout? The main difference that I can see is that you are forced into a trade off between accuracy/attack power with your stat build.But there are some advantages that I prefer - I have pvp'd some bow scouts in clan with similar refined gear and it's been basically a draw - both ending with low hp and trading kills.


You lose to much dodge, and dodge is important for a scout and so is accuracy.

Cause the main source of Scout's attack power is dexterity. ..you will get few benefits from strength and yea a little hp but doesn't make any difference so its pretty wasting stat points. ..and scout don't need strength. ..i would say xBow would be better if they put alternative stat requirement str/dex so its fair to scout...


Yup alternative stat would be nice, strength isnt really usefull for a scout.

The only benefit you will get from going xbow is a tiny bit of def. So that means your willing to lose acc/ap/dodge for a tiny bit of def?. I dont even know why their is an xbow scout in the first place.


Yes, and the defense scale sucks. You wont see much defense difference except the number.

better u use g7 or d7atkspd is not that good anymore...


atkspeed for xbow sucks because the xbow animation is slow. So goodluck with that :unsure:
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 03:36 PM

str gives alot!!!! ap for xbow

xbow has MORE dmg then bow

if anyone says something different: go and play a xbow...


again: if they make a new passiv skills like 20% def and 20% blockrate

this would make a xbow better
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 03:58 PM

str gives alot!!!! ap for xbow

xbow has MORE dmg then bow

if anyone says something different: go and play a xbow...


again: if they make a new passiv skills like 20% def and 20% blockrate

this would make a xbow better

yup they should give more xbow passives and a stat difference instead of strength dex or combined
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:56 PM

i guess X-bow scouts and Dual raiders are currently facing similar problems......
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